Pro's who don't use balata's...

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by Christian Kiel » Tue, 02 Sep 1997 04:00:00


As I learned the game of golf many years ago I was always told that the
pro's use balata balls due to control and feel, or whatever you want to
attribute to a softer covered ball. Now I see that there are a lot of pro's
NOT using balata's... I am sure there are many more than I can list but
here's what I know:

Norman -- Maxfli XS
Price -- Precept ?
Faldo -- Precept Double Cover Tour
Raymond Floyd -- Precept ?
Woods -- Titleist Professional
Pavin -- Titleist HP2 Tour
Daly -- at one time played the Wilson Titanium Spin
   [Please, let's not start that what ball does Daly
    play again :)]

Then there is the Top Flite STRATA with the Z-Balata cover, I don't know
where to classify it, I know that Stadler uses it

So I guess what I am saying is, have I noticed a new trend, or have I
picked out the minority???

I also assume that the technology of ball making has improved allowing
manufacturers to make balls that have "feel" and "distance"...

--
Christian Kiely

 
 
 

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by Joseph N. Hal » Tue, 02 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> As I learned the game of golf many years ago I was always told that the
> pro's use balata balls due to control and feel, or whatever you want to
> attribute to a softer covered ball. Now I see that there are a lot of pro's
> NOT using balata's... I am sure there are many more than I can list but
> here's what I know:

 [...]

One thing you can do is go to the PGA TOUR web site (www.pgatour.com)
and look at the various player and stats lists.  It's sponsored by
Titleist, and the ball preferences of the Titleist players are
indicated there.

A *lot* of players are converting to the Professional, and I think
the "New Professional" (a replacement for the current Professional,
coming soon to a golf shop near you) will attract more.

The newer durable cover spin balls, like the Professional, are
great for normal humans who don't want to blow enormous amounts of
money on balls but like the playability of balata.  The
Pro costs around $35 a box while Tour Balata is around $32.  A
Pro will last 18-36 holes barring severe mistreatment (or h2o/OB),
while a Balata starts to look old after 3-6 holes and is a goner
if bladed or if it hits a rock.

I have found that the lower tier of durable cover "spin" balls do
not have anywhere near the performance of the Professional--e.g.
the Staff Titanium Spin.  A decent ball but it has less suck than
even an HP2 Tour.  For real spin you need a balata ball or something
like the Professional.

        -joseph

 
 
 

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by Bobby Galve » Tue, 02 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Add Gary McCord, former pro player and now CBS commentator, and author

> of "Golf for Dummies" (to which I commend everyone's attention).  He
> uses the Titleist Professional, also, and in the aforementioned book,
> recommends against balata balls unless you're a pro, a scratch player,

> or just have the green dollar bills.



The Titleist Professional is a wound ball, differs from the Tour Blata
only in cover and is more expensive than the Tour Balata. Upside is its
cover is more durable.

====================================================
Bobby Galvez

====================================================

 
 
 

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by jlaw.. » Tue, 02 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Add Gary McCord, former pro player and now CBS commentator, and author
of "Golf for Dummies" (to which I commend everyone's attention).  He
uses the Titleist Professional, also, and in the aforementioned book,
recommends against balata balls unless you're a pro, a scratch player,
or just have the green dollar bills.

Quote:

>As I learned the game of golf many years ago I was always told that the
>pro's use balata balls due to control and feel, or whatever you want to
>attribute to a softer covered ball. Now I see that there are a lot of pro's
>NOT using balata's... I am sure there are many more than I can list but
>here's what I know:
>Norman -- Maxfli XS
>Price -- Precept ?
>Faldo -- Precept Double Cover Tour
>Raymond Floyd -- Precept ?
>Woods -- Titleist Professional
>Pavin -- Titleist HP2 Tour
>Daly -- at one time played the Wilson Titanium Spin
>   [Please, let's not start that what ball does Daly
>    play again :)]
>Then there is the Top Flite STRATA with the Z-Balata cover, I don't know
>where to classify it, I know that Stadler uses it
>So I guess what I am saying is, have I noticed a new trend, or have I
>picked out the minority???
>I also assume that the technology of ball making has improved allowing
>manufacturers to make balls that have "feel" and "distance"...
>--
>Christian Kiely


 
 
 

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by F-D-C Repor » Wed, 03 Sep 1997 04:00:00

: Norman -- Maxfli XS
: Price -- Precept ?
: Faldo -- Precept Double Cover Tour
: Raymond Floyd -- Precept ?
: Woods -- Titleist Professional
: Pavin -- Titleist HP2 Tour
: Daly -- at one time played the Wilson Titanium Spin
:    [Please, let's not start that what ball does Daly
:     play again :)]
:
: Then there is the Top Flite STRATA with the Z-Balata cover, I don't know
: where to classify it, I know that Stadler uses it
:
: So I guess what I am saying is, have I noticed a new trend, or have I
: picked out the minority???
:
: I also assume that the technology of ball making has improved allowing
: manufacturers to make balls that have "feel" and "distance"...
:

I think the last paragraph is the key. There is no longer a distinct
difference between balata and non-balata balls. Covers are, in general,
much softer and designed to allow spin AND distance.

All the balls you mention (except, perhaps the Staff Titanium) are very
close to balatas in feel.

In fact, things have changed so much that I've heard reports that "balata"
balls no longer contain balata ! ?

 
 
 

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by JEC86 » Wed, 03 Sep 1997 04:00:00

When I first became aware of how construction affect spin rates, the
choices were pretty simply. On the hi-spin side you had wound balata which
was offered by most of the top name companies, low-spin two piece distance
balls with surlyn covers and in between was the wound surlyn ball which was
a compromise.

Now days, there are so many more choices with more combinations of cover
and core and there are even two piece balls with relatively high spin
rates. Still its rather simple, you are going to sacrifice spin for extra
distance and vice versa. Most pros and better amateurs are still going to
play a ball with a high spin rate although not necessarily the highest spin
rate ball which is still a wound balata.

One more interesting note, before the advent of the one ball rule, many
pros would switch to a two piece distance ball when hitting into the wind.
They figured the added distance would offset the effect of the wind and
since they would also be hitting their approaches into the wind, they could
do with less spin and still get the ball to stop quickly on the greens..
Most amateur golfers can still take advantage of this strategy since the
one ball rule is an optional rule which the USGA recommends only for
competitions involving expert golfers. Most of us don't fall into that category.

John

 
 
 

Pro's who don't use balata's...

Post by robb » Thu, 04 Sep 1997 04:00:00

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Then there's that sheila that got Hugh Grant into trouble.&nbsp; She didn't
use a soft cover but had the hard covered!!!!!!!!

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