> David, you earlier statement was that 3/4 or 7/8 was "fairer." Your word.
> Traditional or a condition of the competition is not a statement of
> fairness. Once again, what is fair about using partial handicaps?
Lets look at it hole by hole, Player A is giving Player B 18 strokes ( one
per hole). Player A is off 2 and player B is off 20 - full difference 18
shots, Par 72 36&36.
Player A: Player B
4 5 AS
3 7 1D
4 4 AS
3 6 1D
5 5 AS
3 4 1UP
4 5 1UP
5 6 1UP
3 4 1UP
In this scenario Player A has played 3 shots under his handicap and Player B
has shot exactly to his handicap. But Player A is 1 down.
I know that there is no useful arguement I can put forward, than pointing
out the above and adding that it *was* traditional, and to my mind it was
I did check on a couple of sites and the USGA, CONGU, and the Scottish Golf
Union all "suggest" that Singles Match Play be off full difference.
Interestingly enough there is a big tournament in California, and I can't
find the link right now, that for singles there is 80% difference.
> The fact match play uses handicap strokes on individual holes clashes with
> your assertion that handicaps are established in stroke play and this is
> match. If handicaps were only good for metal, then one only need to
> the handicap from the gross to get the net. All the efforts assigning
> handicap strokes to individual holes must be a total waste of time.
> You are free to play anybody you want at scratch. Please don't describe
> adjusting handicaps as fair.
But giving full allowance, to my mind, does nothing but add a crutch for
the high handicapper. He does not have to excel since there is no
incentive, just take all the shots given and either halve or win the hole.
The low handicapper must play out of his mind just to try and salvage a
halved match. The high handicapper will blow a high score on one or two
holes - that is why he is a high handicapper. In Match Play he loses the
hole whether he shoots 6 or 16, whereas the low handicapper must make par or
better just to attain a half on most holes.
I suppose my indignation comes from playing a lot with a couple of high
handicappers who wanted to beat me before the first ball was struck, by
getting as many strokes as possible. I had one 36 hole match against a guy
who insisted on adjusting his stroke allowance upwards between the rounds
plus I had to play from the Black tees and he the White ( at Inverrary).
Some guys just want to win so badly, but so not want to trust their skill,
but rather have strokes as a crutch.
Tell you what, Tom, if I ever get down your way, I'll give you full
allowance, play from the back tees, and we will see what happens....;-)
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