Until a couple of weeks ago (when I visited a local pro), my distances had peaked
out at (what I felt was) an unacceptable level (#8 135, #5 165, #3 185, 1W 225...).
Long par 4's and short par 5's drove me nuts (I didn't have a chance of reaching).
The pro instantly saw a problem, and pointed it out on video tape (at first I could
not really see the problem - but the symptoms seemed to match what he said).
He gave me a drill to try (to get the feel), but I found it did nothing for me, and
I left the lesson somewhat upset (thinking he had just turned my 17 hcp back into a
When I got home and reviewed the tape along with some golf mags. and my coverage of
the US Open - I discovered my own solution to the problem (I was tilting rather than
turning my shoulders) was to just make certain that I was making a long, low takeaway.
Well the first time I tried it, I nailed my 3-iron 200 yds, and since then (4 games
later) I have increased the distance of every club by 15-20yds. In addition, I can
now hit my 3&4 irons plus the fairway woods from the fairway (which I was having trouble
doing before). Oh yah - the best part, my drives are considerably more consistent, and
averaging about 250.
My handicap has quickly gone 17-16-15 (although it was on the way down even before the
Of course - as you are expecting to hear, no one can tell you what is wrong with your
swing without seeing it, but if you tend to lift the club quickly - try the long, low
takeaway... (and take a lesson or two!)
-- Brian Bennefeld
Fiber Systems Software Process Engineering Group
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario - CANADA
Disclaimer: BNR owns, but does not necessarily share my opinions...
Just a possibility but should not have that much of a difference is are your
woods matched with the irons (are they the same type of shaft?) Other
possibility is your tee is maybe too low (for the grounders)
Last and probably the accurate one is you are intimidated (or don't like)
woods and therefore change your swing with these clubs. I only liked the 3
wood for the longest time but now use all three.
: First of all, I would suggest that you not event attempt to use a driver.
: They are very difficult to hit with any "repeatability". You might want
: to wait a year or two after you feel comfortable with your drive with a
: 3-wood. As far as hitting your 3-wood, it is hard to help correct what
: you are doing wrong, if you don't say what is happening when you "attempt"
: to hit the ball. My only guess is if you are hitting your irons well and
: not your drives you are probably addressing all of your shots with the ball
: in the middle of your stance. This is what you want to do for irons but not
: for driving. Try addressing the ball so that it is even with your left heel
: (for righty's). Now swing the same way you would with your irons ... You
: only need ONE swing to play the game well, you just have to know the
: adjustments to make for the stick in your hand!
: - SJB
I'm not sure I like the advice about not hitting a driver. I know I'll probably
get a lot of argument against this. If you have "only ONE swing" then you should
be able to hit any club. If you can hit the 3 wood, it should be no problem to hit
the driver. I also have a feeling that a lot of people who can hit the 3 wood but
not the driver have some mental block when they pull the driver out of the bag. Like
they are thinking "Well, this IS a DRIVER so I better change my swing and hit this
harder." Just pull out your driver, play it off the left heel (I agree with that
part of SJB's remarks) and swing like you are hitting your 3 iron. Golf is such
a mental game.
However, there is one other possibility. If you don't want to take the time
to practice, practice, practice, then you may want to try changing the swing
weight on your woods or trying some other woods. In some golf sets, the
swing weight and balance of the woods is so different from that of the irons
that you do need two distinct swings. You may be thinking "Well, I don't have the
desire or $$$ to buy new woods, so why go out and try some?" Even if you don't buy
at least you will have identified a problem and can eventually do something about it.
> "I don't have any trouble hitting the woods....it's getting
> back on the fairway that kills me!" ;-)
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> Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6
Al Shaw "You know, I happen to be a bit
Bryant College of an expert on tapeworms"
When I started golfing a few years back i had the same problem.
It was so bad for me, that I stopped carrying the driver around
since I knew i wasn't going to hit it. I didn't mind hitting the
3 wood because it didn't slice as bad as the driver, and went
further than the 3 iron.
Now I've been battling this slice since I can remember, but
about a year ago i read an article devoted to the slicer. It
took me a while to accept the fact that unless I really devoted
some time, money, and effort (seeing a pro - going to the range
- and practicing). Since the first two of my options were out of
my reach, I decided to give the suggestions in the article a
Now the article didn't teach me how to stop slicing, but it did
help keep my shots in the fairway instead of the rough or OB. So
simple, yet I see so many people (including myself) that just
cant do it even when they try. What's the hint - aim left ;-).
Sounds simple doesn't it, yet it took me quite some time to "aim
Anyway, I'm back to using the driver, and hitting it
considerably longer than any of the other clubs in my bag
(except the putter!). Now if I can find the time and money,
maybe I can start aiming straight!
Test and Evaluation Specialist ...!princeton!deadzone!marcelo
Advanced Technologies and Applications (609) 258-5661
The slice is caused by an out-to-in swing path, thus when the ball is struck
a clockwise (from above) spin is being imparted on the ball and making it
curve out to the right. I tried to make *really exagerated* in-to-out
swings at the range to make an intentional hook. This exagerated swing
helped me better understand the happy medium place that I needed to
be in order to hit straight (or reasonably so).
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: The slice is caused by an out-to-in swing path, thus when the ball is struck
: a clockwise (from above) spin is being imparted on the ball and making it
: curve out to the right. I tried to make *really exagerated* in-to-out
: swings at the range to make an intentional hook. This exagerated swing
: helped me better understand the happy medium place that I needed to
: be in order to hit straight (or reasonably so).
An out-to-in swing path alone will not necessarily make the ball slice. It all
depends on the angle of the club face at impact. If the face is closed during
an out-to-in swing, the ball will be pulled. If it is open, then a slice will
occur. A slice can also be caused by a perfect swing path with the club face
open at impact. This will also impart spin on the ball and a push-slice wil
occur. Happy slicing everyone!!
> Anyway, I'm back to using the driver, and hitting it
> considerably longer than any of the other clubs in my bag
> (except the putter!). Now if I can find the time and money,
:-) You mean, of course, that you can hit longer with your putter than with your driver
Gee, it looks as though you don't need that driver after all. :-)