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Post by David Carrie » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>>oh and, the american team did walk on ollie's line, at least i thought so
>>watching t.v

>Glad to get this one cleared up.

>But no-one else got a view of Ollie's putt line on TV when the
>celebration erupted. Which channel were you watching?

>Stan

    Wow. That's an easy acceptance.Obviously if Golferboy says the U.S. team
stepped on his line that clears it up.

    Sorry, but there has still been no footage which shows whether or not
anyone fron the U.S. team ran across Jose's line.Enough with the Ryder Cup
already!

    I don't know if anyone noticed but Spain played some fine golf and took
the Dunhill Cup this weekend. For the sake of Golf and this newsgroup let's
move on please.
G'Day and have a nice round,
                                                     Dave

 
 
 

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Post by Golferboy » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

to tell you the truth, i think what happened at brookline was a shame, but at
the same time has really juiced up ryder cups to come. i've never seen so much
debate about the ryder cup in my life. at the same time, this is going to put a
lot of competitiveness into golf, especially in international tournies.

i've got only one thing to say, if you didn't know that an american beat up
sergio garcia's caddie, to the point that he had to go to the hospital, who
which nationality would you put at the top of your suspect list? for me it
would probably be an american. why, when they lose they complain, or make
excuses. not all of them, some are better at losing than winning, but a lot of
them. but when they win they will defend themselves, even though most of the
time it is a lost cause, which in most circumstances it is not a bad thing.

oh and, the american team did walk on ollie's line, at least i thought so
watching t.v. i think that if ben crenshaw was really "gentle ben" he would
tell justin to concede ollie's putt, and win the match fair and square at the
18th. it would have been the most sportsmen like act ever in sports,
uncontested.

--g.b.

 
 
 

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Post by Stan The Ma » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>oh and, the american team did walk on ollie's line, at least i thought so
>watching t.v

Glad to get this one cleared up.

But no-one else got a view of Ollie's putt line on TV when the
celebration erupted. Which channel were you watching?

Stan

--
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Post by bkni.. » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


<clip>

Quote:

>i've got only one thing to say, if you didn't know that an american beat up
>sergio garcia's caddie, to the point that he had to go to the hospital, who
>which nationality would you put at the top of your suspect list? for me it
>would probably be an american. why, when they lose they complain, or make
>excuses. not all of them, some are better at losing than winning, but a lot of
>them. but when they win they will defend themselves, even though most of the
>time it is a lost cause, which in most circumstances it is not a bad thing.

Damn!  Do you have any idea how hard this is to read?  Try caps to
start sentences, periods to end them.  Then learn to write in complete
sentences.

<clip crap>

"Someone likes every shot"
bk

 
 
 

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Post by Stan The Ma » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>>>oh and, the american team did walk on ollie's line, at least i thought so
>>>watching t.v

>>Glad to get this one cleared up.

>>But no-one else got a view of Ollie's putt line on TV when the
>>celebration erupted. Which channel were you watching?

>>Stan

>    Wow. That's an easy acceptance.Obviously if Golferboy says the U.S. team
>stepped on his line that clears it up.

Which just goes to prove yet again that the British sense of humour - a
combination of irony, sarcasm and dead-pan delivery - doesn't work too
well in this medium...

Quote:
>    Sorry, but there has still been no footage which shows whether or not
>anyone fron the U.S. team ran across Jose's line.Enough with the Ryder Cup
>already!

Stan

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Post by \ » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> oh and, the american team did walk on ollie's line,
> at least i thought so watching t.v.

There is no evidence to support this.  The TV cameras were focused on the
side of the green, a good 40 feet away from Ollie's line.

Check out the Sports Illustrated issue with Justin Leonard on the cover.
The two-page spread photo, taken from behind the TV camera with a wide angle
lens, supports the notion that no one stepped on Ollie's line.

Furthermore, if anyone *had* stepped on, or damaged Ollie's line, do you
think for a moment that JMO wouldn't have brought it to the attention of the
rules official walking with the group?  Of course he would have.

Randy

 
 
 

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Post by David Carrie » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Which just goes to prove yet again that the British sense of humour - a
>combination of irony, sarcasm and dead-pan delivery - doesn't work too
>well in this medium..
>Stan

        Stan, as someone who loves sarcasm as much as the next guy, let me
say Bravo if that was the intention of your post. I myself am already too
sarcastic for my own good. I manage to draw the evil eye from my wife at
least twice a day. :-}   Maybe next time lay the sarcasm on a little
thicker.  That way it will get through this thick skull of mine and I can
have a good laugh the first time around. G'Day and have a nice round,
                                    Dave
 
 
 

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Post by bjwilki » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

>>Which just goes to prove yet again that the British sense of humour - a
>>combination of irony, sarcasm and dead-pan delivery - doesn't work too
>>well in this medium..

>>Stan

As a Brit who is also a US citizen who has lived 25 plus years in the
US I agree the abovementioned British sense of humor does not work
well in general in the US - its a cultural thing.

B. J. Wilkinson

 
 
 

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Post by Bobby Knigh » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> >><clip>the British sense of humour - <clip> - doesn't work too
> >>well in this medium..

> >>Stan

> As a Brit who is also a US citizen who has lived 25 plus years in the
> US I agree the abovementioned British sense of humor does not work
> well in general in the US - its a cultural thing.

> B. J. Wilkinson

The written word is very difficult in transmitting subtleties.  That's why
the great writers are great.  You can't expect that level in this forum from
either (any?) country.  Let's don't get into the "cultural" argument, there
isn't a clear cut winner there.

"Someone likes every shot"
bk

 
 
 

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Post by Bobby Knigh » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> >><clip>the British sense of humour - <clip> - doesn't work too
> >>well in this medium..

> >>Stan

> As a Brit who is also a US citizen who has lived 25 plus years in the
> US I agree the abovementioned British sense of humor does not work
> well in general in the US - its a cultural thing.

> B. J. Wilkinson

The written word is very difficult in transmitting subtleties.  That's why
the great writers are great.  You can't expect that level in this forum from
either (any?) country.  Let's don't get into the "cultural" argument, there
isn't a clear cut winner there.

"Someone likes every shot"
bk

 
 
 

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Post by Bobby Knigh » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> The written word is very difficult in transmitting subtleties.

That's why I sent the damn message twice! :-) Sorry about that.
"Someone likes every shot'
bk
 
 
 

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Post by bjwilki » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00



Quote:




>> >><clip>the British sense of humour - <clip> - doesn't work too
>> >>well in this medium..

>> >>Stan

>> As a Brit who is also a US citizen who has lived 25 plus years in the
>> US I agree the abovementioned British sense of humor does not work
>> well in general in the US - its a cultural thing.

>> B. J. Wilkinson

>The written word is very difficult in transmitting subtleties.  That's why
>the great writers are great.  You can't expect that level in this forum from
>either (any?) country.  Let's don't get into the "cultural" argument, there
>isn't a clear cut winner there.

>"Someone likes every shot"
>bk

All I meant was that Britain and the US are different cultures, two
countries separated by a common language as Winston Churchill said. I
did not mean to imply that one country was more "cultured" than the
other.

B. J. Wilkinson

 
 
 

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Post by Scot » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>to tell you the truth, i think what happened at brookline was a shame, but at
>the same time has really juiced up ryder cups to come. i've never seen so much
>debate about the ryder cup in my life. at the same time, this is going to put a
>lot of competitiveness into golf, especially in international tournies.

>i've got only one thing to say, if you didn't know that an american beat up
>sergio garcia's caddie, to the point that he had to go to the hospital, who
>which nationality would you put at the top of your suspect list? for me it
>would probably be an american. why, when they lose they complain, or make
>excuses. not all of them, some are better at losing than winning, but a lot of
>them. but when they win they will defend themselves, even though most of the
>time it is a lost cause, which in most circumstances it is not a bad thing.

>oh and, the american team did walk on ollie's line, at least i thought so
>watching t.v.

Nice.  They "did" walk on ollie's line.... "at least i thought so".
Give me a break.

Scott (It's over.... deal with it)

Quote:
>i think that if ben crenshaw was really "gentle ben" he would
>tell justin to concede ollie's putt, and win the match fair and square at the
>18th. it would have been the most sportsmen like act ever in sports,
>uncontested.

>--g.b.

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Hol » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Dry humor with irony and sarcasm is not necessarily a cultural thing.  Not
all of us Yanks need smileys to "get it". Cluelessness exists in all
cultures.

"Glad to get this one cleared up.  .....  Which channel were you watching?"
As a response to a post stating " .... at least I thought so."  C'mon. In
anyone's book that has to be funny.

Dave


Quote:


> >>Which just goes to prove yet again that the British sense of humour - a
> >>combination of irony, sarcasm and dead-pan delivery - doesn't work too
> >>well in this medium..

> >>Stan

 
 
 

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Post by David Carrie » Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:00:00

            Actually, I dont think it was that obvious. This has nothing to
due with me being clueless. I personally think some of the sarcastic replies
I see on this newsgroup are hillarious and love to laugh while reading here.
            That being said, maybe I did read his reply quickly and missed
it. However with some of the ridiculous claims I have read here from both
sides of the Atlantic during the "debate" I thought he was possibly serious.
            If it makes you feel better and helps to feed your inner ego as
"The Yank" who gets his dry humour by claiming I am clueless, so be it.
Maybe someday I will actually use my brain to recognize sarcasm that is
"funny in anyone's book"  :-}

* Note to self - The :-}  is an indication of a line which uses dry and
sarcastic humour.

G'Day and have a nice round,
                                                        Dave