"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Al Schrein » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 00:58:29


I was curious a while back about whether to have my Rifle 6.5's
"pured" (have the "spine" marked) before mounting the iron heads, so I
emailed Royal Precision for their opinion.  I did NOT have mine pure'd
at $9 a pop (Golfsmith) after reading this.  I suppose True Temper
might say the same thing.

"Alan,

We feel that "puring" a shaft is not a necessary process in the
performance of our shafts and the application of our product.  A well
manufactured steel golf shaft lends itself to being concentric in
nature.  While it is completely up to you, we have not found that
there is a difference in performance in our product.

Tech Support
Royal Precision
15170 N. Hayden Rd. Suite 1
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
800-227-3327

 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Bob Dy » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 01:21:22

Al, we followed the same path.  I also email Royal Precision about my 5.5
rifle lites.  I received the same answer except the responder included "True
Temper" along with their own brand as not needing puring.

--
Bob Dye
Still Hacking Away


Quote:
> I was curious a while back about whether to have my Rifle 6.5's
> "pured" (have the "spine" marked) before mounting the iron heads, so I
> emailed Royal Precision for their opinion.  I did NOT have mine pure'd
> at $9 a pop (Golfsmith) after reading this.  I suppose True Temper
> might say the same thing.

> "Alan,

> We feel that "puring" a shaft is not a necessary process in the
> performance of our shafts and the application of our product.  A well
> manufactured steel golf shaft lends itself to being concentric in
> nature.  While it is completely up to you, we have not found that
> there is a difference in performance in our product.

> Tech Support
> Royal Precision
> 15170 N. Hayden Rd. Suite 1
> Scottsdale, AZ 85260
> 800-227-3327



 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Kenny Stul » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 01:33:49


says...

Quote:

>I was curious a while back about whether to have my Rifle 6.5's
>"pured" (have the "spine" marked) before mounting the iron heads, so I
>emailed Royal Precision for their opinion.  I did NOT have mine pure'd
>at $9 a pop (Golfsmith) after reading this.  I suppose True Temper
>might say the same thing.

>"Alan,

>We feel that "puring" a shaft is not a necessary process in the
>performance of our shafts and the application of our product.  A well
>manufactured steel golf shaft lends itself to being concentric in
>nature.  While it is completely up to you, we have not found that
>there is a difference in performance in our product.

>Tech Support
>Royal Precision
>15170 N. Hayden Rd. Suite 1
>Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>800-227-3327


Al,

FWIW, and it may not be worth much, I've seen Penley make the same claim about
their shafts (ie, it's not necessary to "pure" them).

I have a Penley shaft I keep in my workshop just so I show someone what it
feels like to use a spine finder.  It has one of the most pronounced spines
I've ever seen in a shaft.

Kenny

--
Kenny Stultz
RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm

 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by warre » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 02:21:27


Quote:

> I was curious a while back about whether to have my Rifle 6.5's
> "pured" (have the "spine" marked) before mounting the iron heads, so I
> emailed Royal Precision for their opinion.  I did NOT have mine pure'd
> at $9 a pop (Golfsmith) after reading this.  I suppose True Temper
> might say the same thing.

> "Alan,

> We feel that "puring" a shaft is not a necessary process in the
> performance of our shafts and the application of our product.  A well
> manufactured steel golf shaft lends itself to being concentric in
> nature.  While it is completely up to you, we have not found that
> there is a difference in performance in our product.

> Tech Support
> Royal Precision
> 15170 N. Hayden Rd. Suite 1
> Scottsdale, AZ 85260
> 800-227-3327


I can't figure out how an extruded shaft would have a spine unless it
was intentional. I still asked RP and got the same answer.

-WG

 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Peter Straus » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 03:33:21

Quote:



>> I was curious a while back about whether to have my Rifle 6.5's
>> "pured" (have the "spine" marked) before mounting the iron heads, so I
>> emailed Royal Precision for their opinion.  I did NOT have mine pure'd
>> at $9 a pop (Golfsmith) after reading this.  I suppose True Temper
>> might say the same thing.

>> "Alan,

>> We feel that "puring" a shaft is not a necessary process in the
>> performance of our shafts and the application of our product.  A well
>> manufactured steel golf shaft lends itself to being concentric in
>> nature.  While it is completely up to you, we have not found that
>> there is a difference in performance in our product.

>> Tech Support
>> Royal Precision
>> 15170 N. Hayden Rd. Suite 1
>> Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>> 800-227-3327

>I can't figure out how an extruded shaft would have a spine unless it
>was intentional. I still asked RP and got the same answer.

I'm guessing that in order to produce an extruded shaft with no spine,
the cost of the machinery needed for such precision work would put the
price of a shaft beyond reasonable limits.  Sure it's possible.  Just
not practical.
 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Jeff Connell » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 03:39:17


Quote:
> FWIW, and it may not be worth much, I've seen Penley make the same claim
about
> their shafts (ie, it's not necessary to "pure" them).

> I have a Penley shaft I keep in my workshop just so I show someone what it
> feels like to use a spine finder.  It has one of the most pronounced
spines
> I've ever seen in a shaft.

I assume you're talking about graphite though, and he was talking about
steel.
 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Kenny Stul » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 04:10:21



Quote:



>> FWIW, and it may not be worth much, I've seen Penley make the same claim
>about
>> their shafts (ie, it's not necessary to "pure" them).

>> I have a Penley shaft I keep in my workshop just so I show someone what it
>> feels like to use a spine finder.  It has one of the most pronounced
>spines
>> I've ever seen in a shaft.

>I assume you're talking about graphite though, and he was talking about
>steel.

Right.  I'm just pointing out that maybe he should take the manufacturer's
claim with a grain of salt.

--
Kenny Stultz
RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm

 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Mark » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 07:05:26

Quote:



> > FWIW, and it may not be worth much, I've seen Penley make the same claim
>  about
> > their shafts (ie, it's not necessary to "pure" them).

> > I have a Penley shaft I keep in my workshop just so I show someone what it
> > feels like to use a spine finder.  It has one of the most pronounced
>  spines
> > I've ever seen in a shaft.

> I assume you're talking about graphite though, and he was talking about
> steel.

I just built a spine finder and happened to have a rifle spinner 6.5
that I will be using to build my lob wedge, and it definitely had a
spine.  I have not spined another shaft to compare it to, so I don't
know how pronounced it is.  I have read that rifles FLO easily but I
need to get some hardware to FLO it.

Mark A

 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Ed Morga » Sat, 05 Jan 2002 09:42:47

I have had one set of Rifle Lite 5.0 shafts "pured" by Golfsmith as
replacement
for factory shafts in Maruman forged cavity back irons.  Theshafts came from
Golfsmith with the spline well marked.   They included a report
on each shaft with the before and after graphs.  I must admit that I didn't
fully understand every thing in the reports.  But some shafts showed
significant variation from the factory position to the marked position.

I would not expect any factory to say they can't control their manufacturing
process or that "puring" would reap benefits.  If they did, the other guys
would
claim theirs don't need it.

I am very satisfied with my finished product and the "pured" shafts perform
much better than my old ones...... your mileage may vary.

Ed


Quote:
> I was curious a while back about whether to have my Rifle 6.5's
> "pured" (have the "spine" marked) before mounting the iron heads, so I
> emailed Royal Precision for their opinion.  I did NOT have mine pure'd
> at $9 a pop (Golfsmith) after reading this.  I suppose True Temper
> might say the same thing.

> "Alan,

> We feel that "puring" a shaft is not a necessary process in the
> performance of our shafts and the application of our product.  A well
> manufactured steel golf shaft lends itself to being concentric in
> nature.  While it is completely up to you, we have not found that
> there is a difference in performance in our product.

> Tech Support
> Royal Precision
> 15170 N. Hayden Rd. Suite 1
> Scottsdale, AZ 85260
> 800-227-3327


 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Al Schrein » Wed, 09 Jan 2002 06:00:22

Ed,

Thanks for the insight.  How do you mean that the shafts performed
better?  That could just be the Rifles in general vs. the factory
shafts, right?  Did your handicap improve from the old shafts to the
new?  Not being a smart-ass but my own game is nowhere near good
enough to notice anything but a significant difference in equipment
that is otherwise fitted properly.  Personaly, I "love" every new
piece of gear I get my grubby paws on :-), including the un-pured,
Rifle 6.5's I shafted my irons with.  I find it hard to believe that
the spine in a TOP-QUALITY steel shaft (Rifle or TT) makes a
difference to anyone without witchy, bad-ass golf skills (eg, "Damn,
that freaking spine caused my 100 yard approach shot to land 1.5 feet
to the left.").

BTW, how are the "factory positions" marked?

Regards,
Al

Quote:

> I have had one set of Rifle Lite 5.0 shafts "pured" by Golfsmith as
> replacement
> for factory shafts in Maruman forged cavity back irons.  Theshafts came from
> Golfsmith with the spline well marked.   They included a report
> on each shaft with the before and after graphs.  I must admit that I didn't
> fully understand every thing in the reports.  But some shafts showed
> significant variation from the factory position to the marked position.

> I would not expect any factory to say they can't control their manufacturing
> process or that "puring" would reap benefits.  If they did, the other guys
> would
> claim theirs don't need it.

> I am very satisfied with my finished product and the "pured" shafts perform
> much better than my old ones...... your mileage may vary.

> Ed

 
 
 

"Shaft Pureing" (per Royal Precision)

Post by Al Schrein » Wed, 09 Jan 2002 06:00:22

Ed,

Thanks for the insight.  How do you mean that the shafts performed
better?  That could just be the Rifles in general vs. the factory
shafts, right?  Did your handicap improve from the old shafts to the
new?  Not being a smart-ass but my own game is nowhere near good
enough to notice anything but a significant difference in equipment
that is otherwise fitted properly.  Personaly, I "love" every new
piece of gear I get my grubby paws on :-), including the un-pured,
Rifle 6.5's I shafted my irons with.  I find it hard to believe that
the spine in a TOP-QUALITY steel shaft (Rifle or TT) makes a
difference to anyone without witchy, bad-ass golf skills (eg, "Damn,
that freaking spine caused my 100 yard approach shot to land 1.5 feet
to the left.").

BTW, how are the "factory positions" marked?

Regards,
Al

Quote:

> I have had one set of Rifle Lite 5.0 shafts "pured" by Golfsmith as
> replacement
> for factory shafts in Maruman forged cavity back irons.  Theshafts came from
> Golfsmith with the spline well marked.   They included a report
> on each shaft with the before and after graphs.  I must admit that I didn't
> fully understand every thing in the reports.  But some shafts showed
> significant variation from the factory position to the marked position.

> I would not expect any factory to say they can't control their manufacturing
> process or that "puring" would reap benefits.  If they did, the other guys
> would
> claim theirs don't need it.

> I am very satisfied with my finished product and the "pured" shafts perform
> much better than my old ones...... your mileage may vary.

> Ed

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