a drill to cure coming over the top

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by Migue » Tue, 07 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I don't know how it started or how to get rid of it, but for the last 4
months I have been coming over the top.
I have worked with 2 different pro's with marginal success to rid myself of
this hitch, if anyone has any ideas I am open to
any thing.  How about a drill?
 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by Barrie Smar » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Put ball well forward in your stance (inside left heel for all irons), take
club back inside on plane, hit through ball as if you intended to block the
shot, finish high over left shoulder.

Pro got me to place club parallel to feet, and one beyond ball, but angled
around 15 deg to right of target - then hit at ball as though hitting over
right fence.  Worked a treat, and now drawing the ball right to left and
getting more distance.  And this from a guy who never intentionally drew a
ball in his life before!  Try it,

--
Regards

dunlop

The Wizard of Oz!

Quote:
> I don't know how it started or how to get rid of it, but for the last 4
> months I have been coming over the top.
> I have worked with 2 different pro's with marginal success to rid myself
of
> this hitch, if anyone has any ideas I am open to
> any thing.  How about a drill?


 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by Puttste » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Pro told me I was taking the club back inside and I was looping it back
around.  He had me take it straight back, though to me it felt outside.
Strange how two opposite approaches work!

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by brett fento » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Put ball well forward in your stance (inside left heel for all irons),
take
> club back inside on plane, hit through ball as if you intended to block
the
> shot, finish high over left shoulder.

that can depending on the person make the problem worse. in that you take
the club too far back inside, get too cramped at the top and have nowhere
to go except over the top.

payne stewart once offered a pretty good drill for it somewhere as he was
having the problem in '96 i recall. he was putting a shaft in the ground
outside the line of the ball angled at 45* (parallel to target), with the
***end pointing to the target. if he looped outside from the top he'd hit
the shaft on the way down.

brett

 
 
 

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Post by mdR » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00

This drill does work good.  Another good one is to take your
driver head cover, fluff it up and place it just outside your
ball, parallel to the target line.  Place the majority of it
behind the ball, on the outside, so that if you come outside to
in (over the top), you hit it (without damaging anything).

Something else that will help, make sure you start the downswing
from the ground up (turning the hips), then just drop the arms
and release the wrists.  Try turning the hips and see how long
you can keep you arms up before dropping them.  It is almost
impossible to come over the top if the hips are leading properly.

Mark

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Post by Birdieon » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Here is a better idea use golfs cheapest training aid. Take a 3 ft. piece of
2X4 put it just out side the ball. On its side. 2inch side up and swing like
that. If you come over the top you hit the 2x4. After about the 3rd time you
hit it you will startcoming inside natural and your problem solved.

A little man making big statements

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by dave_elli » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> One possible way of ridding yourself of coming over the top is to begin the
> downswing concentrating on shifting your weight to the inside of your front
> foot.  This will help you clear you hips and allow the club to take a path more
> on the inside.

I second the above suggestion.

D.E.

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by TBHM » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I agree with Marks statement about starting from the ground up.  From listening
to one of the golf pros on the Golf Channel Academy last night, one of the
reasons people come over the top is because they do not properly shift there
weight, and instead turn there bodies with little lateral movement (toward the
target).

One possible way of ridding yourself of coming over the top is to begin the
downswing concentrating on shifting your weight to the inside of your front
foot.  This will help you clear you hips and allow the club to take a path more
on the inside.

Also, make sure you are not reverse pivoting.  This will also cause your swing
to be over the top.

Trevor in West Chester, PA (26 miles west of Philly)

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by Dudley Cornm » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> I don't know how it started or how to get rid of it, but for the last 4
> months I have been coming over the top.
> I have worked with 2 different pro's with marginal success to rid myself of
> this hitch, if anyone has any ideas I am open to
> any thing.  How about a drill?

go to the extreeme...

Practice a swing that is way too much inside for a few minutes. Then
split the difference.

dsc - acssysdsc

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by Ben » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "coming over the top" mean?
Quote:


> > I don't know how it started or how to get rid of it, but for the last 4
> > months I have been coming over the top.
> > I have worked with 2 different pro's with marginal success to rid myself of
> > this hitch, if anyone has any ideas I am open to
> > any thing.  How about a drill?

> go to the extreeme...

> Practice a swing that is way too much inside for a few minutes. Then
> split the difference.

> dsc - acssysdsc

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by WADE ALISON LOXT » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Ben, "coming over the top" is when your hands start first, from the top
of the swing, instead of the lower body.  Your hands and arms will go
"out" away from you and across the target line.  From the top, your
hands and arms should stay close to the body.    

fairways and greens

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by brett fento » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> go to the extreeme...

> Practice a swing that is way too much inside for a few minutes. Then
> split the difference.

i think this is a common misconception. most good players don't stay on a
single plane. they come back reasonably square or even a bit outside for
guys like couples and then drop in fractionally from the top to approach
the ball from inside the line. if you start taking the club back way inside
you leave no room at the top for anything other than coming over the top
unless you have the ability to clear your hips like tiger, which very few
do.

if you want to practice extremes take the club back straight or even
outside and feel yourself dropping into the slot from the top.

brett

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by TBHM » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Good point, brett.
Trevor in West Chester, PA (26 miles west of Philly)
 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by David Lavill » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
>I don't know how it started or how to get rid of it, but for the last 4
>months I have been coming over the top.
>I have worked with 2 different pro's with marginal success to rid myself of
>this hitch, if anyone has any ideas I am open to
>any thing.  How about a drill?

Miguel, you've received some good advice but must has told you how to
stop the effect, not the cause.  Here is some things to check:

1) make sure your right hip leads your hands into impact.  If your
hands out run your right hip you're a little too aggressive with the
upper body.

2) practice hitting shots trying to hit the inside aft quadrant of the
ball with a slightly open clubface.  This will force you to hit the
ball from the inside.

3) make sure you're not aligned to the right of the target.  If you
are you will have to come over the top to hit left at the target.  If
anything it's better to be aimed slightly left.

 
 
 

a drill to cure coming over the top

Post by Dudley Cornm » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



>> go to the extreeme...

>> Practice a swing that is way too much inside for a few minutes. Then
>> split the difference.

> i think this is a common misconception. most good players don't stay on a
> single plane. they come back reasonably square or even a bit outside for
> guys like couples and then drop in fractionally from the top to approach
> the ball from inside the line. if you start taking the club back way inside
> you leave no room at the top for anything other than coming over the top
> unless you have the ability to clear your hips like tiger, which very few
> do.

> if you want to practice extremes take the club back straight or even
> outside and feel yourself dropping into the slot from the top.

I actually meant bring it down from way inside... should leave a divot
that is quite a bit inside to out.  Should hit pushes and hooks. Then
work back to where the divot more or less matches the intended line.
I should have given more detail.

dsc - acssysdsc