> >>> I'm going to always golf in the 90's unless I get rid of the flip, my
> >>> life-long flaw. For the first time, I am serious about this goal and
> >>> willing to take a step back in order to take a leap forward. I
> >>> couldn't be more optimistic.
> >>> I imagine there are several methods of getting rid of the wrist flip
> >>> before impact, but for me the key is ABT (Always Be Turning). As I've
> >>> been practicing in my driveway (2 feet of snow still), I feel my right
> >>> wrist break/flip if I slow down my pivot/rotation. If I commit to
> >>> turning fully through the shot, I'm able to reach impact with my left
> >>> wrist flat and my right wrist cupped back.
> >>> The main reason I could never tackle this is that I saw it as a
> >>> reduction in speed and distance. I thought if I couldn't hit the
> >>> driver 300 years once or twice per round, what's the use. The reason
> >>> I am so committed to this swing this time is that I feel like my non-
> >>> flip practice swing has at least the speed of my flippy swing. And it
> >>> obviously should have better shaft lean and a much lower trajectory.
> >>> My 7-iron look like a 140 yard PW at the end of the last season. I'll
> >>> quit before I go back to that.
> >>> Any thoughts on my ABT approach to getting rid of the flips? Anyone
> >>> have a similar thought on the importance of the pivot and a strong
> >>> rotation? Thanks!
> >> Book a practice session on a good golf simulator with detailed swing
> >> metrics feedback. Then you will see hard evidence that working the hands
> >> does absolutely NOTHING for swing speed. It is merely a distraction and
> >> makes your swing less repeatable.
> > No, I'm sorry, but I don't agree.
> > Using the hands at the wrong time, yeah: that won't help your swing
> > speed. And I'll grant you that it is easier to use them at the wrong
> > time than at the right time.
> > I'll also grant that not thinking about the hands and using what happens
> > almost automatically is probably a better option than thinking about
> > your hands too much and at the wrong time.
> > But professional after professional from Ben Hogan on has said that
> > using the power of the arms and hands IS important if you've done the
> > correct things with the swing from the feet up to the torso.
> > The motions of the golf swing (I think) begin from the ground up, but
> > there is no magic that causes that to stop being appropriate when we get
> > to the shoulders.
> > :-)
> I am not saying the hands have no role in the swing, quite the opposite.
> I am just saying that anything related to the release of the club is an
> inevitable result of the rotation of the body and shoulders, the
> movement of the arms and the proper tension in the shoulders, arms,
> wrists and hands.
> Of course the hands need to rotate but that should be a result of
> turning the shoulders through impact. Any deliberate action of the hands
> or forearms to manipulate the release is an interference with the
> optimal sequence of cause and effect.
> Golfers who manipulate their hands usually do this because their swing
> is flawed and does NOT result in an automatic release. They either do
> not swing on a proper plane or their swing tempo/rhythm is wrong. The
> latter is often caused by rushing the down-swing and decelerating
> through impact.
> Good golfers FOCUS on the release through impact because it is a primary
> indicator of the total quality of their swing but they do so passively.
> If the release and ball contact is not optimal they know they ***ed up
> somewhere earlier in the swing.
I think I'll still disagree.
You're still saying that there is some difference that makes it alright
to make a deliberate action with the feet, legs, trunk, shoulders...
...but not the arms and hands...
...and I just don't buy it.
I do believe that because of the nature of the human nervous system, it
is more /difficult/ to make deliberate actions with the hands while
keeping the correct sequence of events happening, but when Ben Hogan,
Nick Faldo, and others all talk about how moving the body correctly lets
them attack hard with the hands, they mean what they say:
Do the right things with the feet, the legs, the torso, the shoulders...
...and you'll be free to "hit hard with both hands".
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