Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Post by Joseph N. Hal » Mon, 17 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Hi. I've been playing for about 6 months now. Don't have a handicap,
> but shoot in the mid to high 90's.

> My ball flight used to be fade / pull slice, but after extensive
> training with a heavy club (momentus) and practicing the inside-out
> move, I can now hit my irons straight (including long irons)

> Problem is that I still cannot hit woods. I tried everything, moving
> the ball forward and back in my stance, moving my right foot way
> behind the left, flipping the club at impact, strengthening my grip.
> To no avail. I still slice. And I can't seem to get decent contact on
> the ball most of the time.

Just keep working on it.  You may have the ball too far forward in
your stance.  Put your driver away and practice with your 3 and 5 wood
for now.  Hit some good shots with as long an iron as you are comfortable
with -- a 4 or 5 iron off a tee -- and then tee up a ball in the same
spot in your stance and go after it with the 5 or 3 wood.  Try putting
the ball back farther in your stance, even.

Another drill that works well, but which you may not be able to execute
properly without some good coaching, is to learn to "chip" your 3 wood
about 100 yards.  When you can hit it straight and solid 100 yards
most of the time, take a slightly bigger swing and hit it 150 yards.
When that is working, hit it 200 yards.  After that, hit it as far
as you can while still swinging smoothly.

The reason I say you may need coaching for that drill is that it can
really hose up your swing unless you learn to hit that 100 yard shot
with a LOW, SLOW, STRAIGHT BACK, WIDE takeaway.  You don't want to
"flip" the club at the ball--you want to learn to make the beginning of a
nice wide backswing, and use the corresponding downswing to hit the
ball with your entire body--hips, shoulders, and arms, all synchronized.  
It is not a very natural feeling swing at first, because you are learning
to move all the parts of your body together in a way that is not
intuitive to most people.  But it will start to feel more natural
eventually.

For "wide" backswing, see any swing sequence of Tiger Woods.  That's
what you want to learn, unless you have some specific physical reason
not to.

  -joseph

 
 
 

Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Post by The DeMented Golf » Mon, 17 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hi. I've been playing for about 6 months now. Don't have a handicap,
>but shoot in the mid to high 90's.

>My ball flight used to be fade / pull slice, but after extensive
>training with a heavy club (momentus) and practicing the inside-out
>move, I can now hit my irons straight (including long irons)

>Problem is that I still cannot hit woods. I tried everything, moving
>the ball forward and back in my stance, moving my right foot way
>behind the left, flipping the club at impact, strengthening my grip.
>To no avail. I still slice. And I can't seem to get decent contact on
>the ball most of the time.

>Looking for suggestions,

>(some info: I'm a young male of average strength, I use regular flex
>steel shafts in my irons but my woods are regular graphites. I hit the
>7-iron about 135 yards, 3 iron about 180.)

<snip>

I had the same problem that you do, and I still have it to some extent.
Not being a golf pro I wouldn't presume to give detailed advicw but here
is what is working for me.

I have paid for some lessons to find out what I'm doing wrong.  For me it
was a combination of things that manifest themselves as the shaft gets
longer.  I have the same problems with long irons although not to the
same degree.

I also took a gradual approuch.  Like you I uesd a 3 iron off the tee.
Frankly this gave me enough distance to play the forward tees of all but
the longest courses (in the 6000 yd range)  I'm sure you have discovered
the same thing.

Then I started with a 5 wood and then to a weak lofted 3 wood.  Now I'm
using that 16 degree 3 wood as my driver with a good deal of sucess.  I
went out and got a 2 wood (steelhead with 13.5 degrees of loft) and I am
woking that into my game on the "driving holes".  

With me it's all about control.  I just have less precision with the
longer clubs and I find that I have a lot of confidance with the 5 from
the fairway (so much so that it has replaced my 3 iron on most shots
where that club might be approprate)

My guess is that you have a swing flaw that is magnified as the club gets
longer (see your golf professional).  Find out what that is and try using
higher lofted woods to "work it out" and then work your way up.

--
The DeMented Golfer

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Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Post by Don Porte » Mon, 17 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>Problem is that I still cannot hit woods. I tried everything, moving
>the ball forward and back in my stance, moving my right foot way
>behind the left, flipping the club at impact, strengthening my grip.
>To no avail. I still slice. And I can't seem to get decent contact on
>the ball most of the time.

I'll second Joseph's suggestion that you just keep working with the
woods, ROdent. Like you, I found it easier to hit my irons when I
first began playing. So my woods stayed in the bag most of the time,
even when it meant needing three shots to reach a long par 4 hole.

But I kept practicing with them at the range, focusing on a smooth,
low takeaway and a swing that just kind of brushed the grass as I made
contact. Over time, I gained so much confidence that I have no qualms
about hitting my woods from just about any place on the course. If you
keep working with yours, I suspect the same thing will happen to you.

I think one of the difficulties we have to overcome in hitting woods
is that because they have such larger heads than most of our other
clubs, we can start thinking in terms of swinging the clubhead and not
the club itself.

One thing you might consider to help you "graduate" into becoming more
confident hitting woods is to invest in a 7-wood. They're about the
same length as a long iron, making them less intimidating to hit than
a longer wood. But it should give you about the same distance as a 3
or 4-iron. Develop a good, smooth swing with a 7-wood and then
transfer it to your other woods.
--
Don Porter
Newspaper Reporter & Webmaster

Web Page: http://www.datacruz.com/~dporter

 
 
 

Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Post by Eska » Sat, 22 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hi. I've been playing for about 6 months now. Don't have a handicap,
> but shoot in the mid to high 90's.

> My ball flight used to be fade / pull slice, but after extensive
> training with a heavy club (momentus) and practicing the inside-out
> move, I can now hit my irons straight (including long irons)

> Problem is that I still cannot hit woods. I tried everything, moving
> the ball forward and back in my stance, moving my right foot way
> behind the left, flipping the club at impact, strengthening my grip.
> To no avail. I still slice. And I can't seem to get decent contact on
> the ball most of the time.

> Looking for suggestions,

> (some info: I'm a young male of average strength, I use regular flex
> steel shafts in my irons but my woods are regular graphites. I hit the
> 7-iron about 135 yards, 3 iron about 180.)

> As a stopgap measure, I'm building a driving iron to get more distance
> off my drives (currently tee off with a 3 iron),  but I know that real
> golfers learn to hit their woods and I should too.

Being there before.  I hold the club lower down the grip about 1.5 to 2
inches from the end.
 
 
 

Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Post by John N. Melvi » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

One thing that i have seen is when people are hitting their drivers they are
thinking of knocking the hell out of it.  They tense up and take away the
ablility to swing free and easy.  Perhaps you might try relaxing a little
and think about position in the fairway instead of length in the fairway.
Once you get positoning start going for distance gradually.  Hope it helps.
 
 
 

Can't hit woods -- any suggestions?

Post by SEMAC » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

It is funny that you gave that piece of advice.  I tend at times to be hot and
cold off the tee.  It comes from my swing pace.  My iron and fairway wood shots
a strong, but at times I tend to swing to fast.  It is very subconscience and I
need to be aware of it all the time.  I am fortunate to have a good friend in
my foursome that is quick to point this out when it is happening.

Just try to be conscience of a nice and smooth swing.  I also found that since
I began using a steady pre-shot routine, it helps me block out some anxiety
associated with a tee shot.