Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Vari L. Cinick » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:14:02


If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

--
Cheers,

vc

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Professor » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:17:20


Quote:
> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

> --
> Cheers,

> vc

Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Lax » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:19:57


Quote:

> > If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
> > his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

> > Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
> > bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
> > pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

> > Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

> > --
> > Cheers,

> > vc

> Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

I think Fed is praying that does happen.  Not sure about Vari.

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Vari L. Cinick » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:22:39

Quote:


>> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
>> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

>> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
>> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
>> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

>> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

> Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

Why? It would be an opportunity, like Madrid, to improve the h2h.

Prayer is for saps anyway.

Djokovic had a number of opportunities last year to seize the #2 from
Nadal in some key h2h matches. His repeated failure has affected his
psyche adversely.

Murray can seal the deal without having to face his hero.

--
Cheers,

vc

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Professor » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:24:15


Quote:


> >> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
> >> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

> >> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
> >> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
> >> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

> >> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

> > Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

> Why? It would be an opportunity, like Madrid, to improve the h2h.

> Prayer is for saps anyway.

> Djokovic had a number of opportunities last year to seize the #2 from
> Nadal in some key h2h matches. His repeated failure has affected his
> psyche adversely.

> Murray can seal the deal without having to face his hero.

> --
> Cheers,

> vc

Lol it's really upset you that Murray idolises Nadal, hasn't it?
 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Vari L. Cinick » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:27:53

Quote:



>>> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
>>> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.
>>> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
>>> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
>>> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.
>>> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.
>> Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

> I think Fed is praying that does happen.  Not sure about Vari.

Federer will surely welcome the opportunity.

After all, he met his "nemesis" at the Madrid final on clay and his
straight set win started the reversal in his fortunes and righted his
season.

I was also careful in what I stated when I started the thread. "On the
draw" says on paper.

We have to see if they are playing well enough at the US Open to make
the SFs. It is too early to know what effect major life events will have
on their preparations for the US Open.

--
Cheers,

vc

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by Vari L. Cinick » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:31:47

Quote:




>>>> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
>>>> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.
>>>> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
>>>> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
>>>> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.
>>>> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.
>>> Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.
>> Why? It would be an opportunity, like Madrid, to improve the h2h.

>> Prayer is for saps anyway.

>> Djokovic had a number of opportunities last year to seize the #2 from
>> Nadal in some key h2h matches. His repeated failure has affected his
>> psyche adversely.

>> Murray can seal the deal without having to face his hero.

> Lol it's really upset you that Murray idolises Nadal, hasn't it?

Why should it? Nadal, at his best, epitomizes the type of defensive
tennis that Murray likes at a gut level.

He is the ultimate challenge for Murray since more error prone players
(players who go for winners) are easier prey to the Murray game.

--
Cheers,

vc

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by gg » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:37:29



Quote:


>>> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
>>> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

>>> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
>>> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
>>> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

>>> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

>> Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

> Why? It would be an opportunity, like Madrid, to improve the h2h.

> Prayer is for saps anyway.

> Djokovic had a number of opportunities last year to seize the #2 from
> Nadal in some key h2h matches. His repeated failure has affected his
> psyche adversely.

> Murray can seal the deal without having to face his hero.

> --
> Cheers,

> vc

According to the prevailing pro-Federer logic, Murray has a winning record
against Nadal having won their biggest match,but lost the next most
important couple*.

So facing his "hero" hasn't been a problem,if you accept that premise.It
could also turn his negative h2h against Djokovic round,having won the 2
biggest matches they've played.Murray's h2h against Federer must at least in
part be attributable to random chance given Andy's record so shouldn't
Federer fans want the chance to straighten the record?

*I consider MS semis bigger than Bangkok final, others may disagree.

IT

 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by TT » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:00:09

Quote:



>>> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
>>> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.
>>> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
>>> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
>>> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.
>>> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> vc

Vari is very happy that Nadal got injured it seems. Wtf...discussing
about Nadal's ranking going down? ...Of course it goes down if you miss
FO+Wimb.

Quote:
>> Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

> I think Fed is praying that does happen.  Not sure about Vari.

The last thing Federer wants is Nadal being #3....may have to face him
in the semis.
 
 
 

Could US Open 2009 see a Federer-Nadal SF on the draw?

Post by adam thirni » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:08:12


Quote:



> > >> If Nadal doesn't return by Montreal (and you subtract the Olympics from
> > >> his ranking points), he could fall below 9,000 points.

> > >> Murray is at 9,450 and is defending 450 points at the Canadian Open. He
> > >> bombed out of the Olympics and won't lose anything there and he will
> > >> pick up 250 points once the Indy penalty ends.

> > >> Montreal is a key tournament for Murray and Nadal.

> > > Yes you will be praying that doesn't happen no doubt.

> > Why? It would be an opportunity, like Madrid, to improve the h2h.

> > Prayer is for saps anyway.

> > Djokovic had a number of opportunities last year to seize the #2 from
> > Nadal in some key h2h matches. His repeated failure has affected his
> > psyche adversely.

> > Murray can seal the deal without having to face his hero.

> > --
> > Cheers,

> > vc

> Lol it's really upset you that Murray idolises Nadal, hasn't it?

murray's praise for nadal is an apology for his own style of play -
"look it's ok to stand way behind the baseline and keep the ball in
play waiting for an error".