Collection of comments about blue clay

Collection of comments about blue clay

Post by TT » Mon, 07 May 2012 20:33:12


Nadal: Slippery, irregular bounces, ball bounces fast and goes forward
(low bounce, fast), favours big servers+first strike.

Djokovic: Different, slice stays very low + finds it hard to judge the
bounce

Raonic: Slippery, low bounce

Serena: Ridiculous + fine, and she could play on ice if need be + No
one likes it. Im on the council, we all voted against it. Its
interesting to see that they just did what they wanted. I just wish they
hadnt asked us and wasted our time.

Sharapova: Unique + "I think it's more for show than for the players.
It's different. It is what it is.

Stosur: Doesn't like her clothes turning blue

Cirstea(Romania): Loves it

Annacone: We need to give this some time

Ivanovic: There's a lot of heavy dirt out there

Venus: I think the blue clay is a real fashion statement

Wozniacki: It's different but blue is my favourite colour + slightly
faster than normal clay

Vania King: About the same as last years red clay, but slower.

Stakhovsky: faster, and the bounce is low.

Sch***: The worst surface I've ever seen

 
 
 

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Post by TT » Mon, 07 May 2012 20:59:49

6.5.2012 14:33, TT kirjoitti:

Quote:
> Nadal: Slippery, irregular bounces, ball bounces fast and goes forward
> (low bounce, fast), favours big servers+first strike.

> Djokovic: Different, slice stays very low + finds it hard to judge the
> bounce

> Raonic: Slippery, low bounce

> Serena: Ridiculous + fine, and she could play on ice if need be + No
> one likes it. Im on the council, we all voted against it. Its
> interesting to see that they just did what they wanted. I just wish they
> hadnt asked us and wasted our time.

> Sharapova: Unique + "I think it's more for show than for the players.
> It's different. It is what it is.

> Stosur: Doesn't like her clothes turning blue

> Cirstea(Romania): Loves it

> Annacone: We need to give this some time

> Ivanovic: There's a lot of heavy dirt out there

> Venus: I think the blue clay is a real fashion statement

> Wozniacki: It's different but blue is my favourite colour + slightly
> faster than normal clay

> Vania King: About the same as last years red clay, but slower.

> Stakhovsky: faster, and the bounce is low.

> Sch***: The worst surface I've ever seen

Federer: It feels a little different than regular clay. Im not sure if
its just visually or something else. It has been rainy and cooler than
usual, so that makes a difference too. Its going to be interesting to
see how its going to play when there is hot weather.

Frederico Gil: Likes the courts. Low bounce and slower than MC. The
court he played on was in bad shape.

More Sharapova: Not good for players - those who've been playing
qualifiers have complained about bad bounces, slipperiness, not being
like usual clay etc

 
 
 

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Post by Superdav » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:05:19

Quote:

>6.5.2012 14:33, TT kirjoitti:
>> Nadal: Slippery, irregular bounces, ball bounces fast and goes forward
>> (low bounce, fast), favours big servers+first strike.

>> Djokovic: Different, slice stays very low + finds it hard to judge the
>> bounce

>> Raonic: Slippery, low bounce

>> Serena: Ridiculous + fine, and she could play on ice if need be + No
>> one likes it. Im on the council, we all voted against it. Its
>> interesting to see that they just did what they wanted. I just wish they
>> hadnt asked us and wasted our time.

>> Sharapova: Unique + "I think it's more for show than for the players.
>> It's different. It is what it is.

>> Stosur: Doesn't like her clothes turning blue

>> Cirstea(Romania): Loves it

>> Annacone: We need to give this some time

>> Ivanovic: There's a lot of heavy dirt out there

>> Venus: I think the blue clay is a real fashion statement

>> Wozniacki: It's different but blue is my favourite colour + slightly
>> faster than normal clay

>> Vania King: About the same as last years red clay, but slower.

>> Stakhovsky: faster, and the bounce is low.

>> Sch***: The worst surface I've ever seen

>Federer: It feels a little different than regular clay. Im not sure if
>its just visually or something else. It has been rainy and cooler than
>usual, so that makes a difference too. Its going to be interesting to
>see how its going to play when there is hot weather.

>Frederico Gil: Likes the courts. Low bounce and slower than MC. The
>court he played on was in bad shape.

>More Sharapova: Not good for players - those who've been playing
>qualifiers have complained about bad bounces, slipperiness, not being
>like usual clay etc

their opinions are all over the map.

i think it is all their ***ing imagination.

 
 
 

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Post by felange » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:05:33

Quote:
>> Vania King: About the same as last years red clay, but slower.

Interesting! :))
 
 
 

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Post by felange » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:10:24

Quote:
>i think it is all their ***ing imagination.

I think that is the interesting question, isn't it. Such a monumental change
from what anyone is used to......one would fully expect it to feel totally
different. We shall just have to see how it plays this week....or whether it
is indeed all in their minds.
 
 
 

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Post by TT » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:14:22

6.5.2012 15:05, Superdave kirjoitti:

Quote:

>> 6.5.2012 14:33, TT kirjoitti:
>>> Nadal: Slippery, irregular bounces, ball bounces fast and goes forward
>>> (low bounce, fast), favours big servers+first strike.

>>> Djokovic: Different, slice stays very low + finds it hard to judge the
>>> bounce

>>> Raonic: Slippery, low bounce

>>> Serena: Ridiculous + fine, and she could play on ice if need be + No
>>> one likes it. Im on the council, we all voted against it. Its
>>> interesting to see that they just did what they wanted. I just wish they
>>> hadnt asked us and wasted our time.

>>> Sharapova: Unique + "I think it's more for show than for the players.
>>> It's different. It is what it is.

>>> Stosur: Doesn't like her clothes turning blue

>>> Cirstea(Romania): Loves it

>>> Annacone: We need to give this some time

>>> Ivanovic: There's a lot of heavy dirt out there

>>> Venus: I think the blue clay is a real fashion statement

>>> Wozniacki: It's different but blue is my favourite colour + slightly
>>> faster than normal clay

>>> Vania King: About the same as last years red clay, but slower.

>>> Stakhovsky: faster, and the bounce is low.

>>> Sch***: The worst surface I've ever seen

>> Federer: It feels a little different than regular clay. Im not sure if
>> its just visually or something else. It has been rainy and cooler than
>> usual, so that makes a difference too. Its going to be interesting to
>> see how its going to play when there is hot weather.

>> Frederico Gil: Likes the courts. Low bounce and slower than MC. The
>> court he played on was in bad shape.

>> More Sharapova: Not good for players - those who've been playing
>> qualifiers have complained about bad bounces, slipperiness, not being
>> like usual clay etc

> their opinions are all over the map.

No kidding...
 
 
 

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Post by TT » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:22:09

6.5.2012 15:10, felangey kirjoitti:

Quote:
>> i think it is all their ***ing imagination.

> I think that is the interesting question, isn't it. Such a monumental change
> from what anyone is used to......one would fully expect it to feel totally
> different. We shall just have to see how it plays this week....or whether it
> is indeed all in their minds.

No imagine peer pressure added to the question aka:
"Federer thinks Miami has slowed down. I think it's very slow this year
- what is your opinion?"

And this is what you see as proof that courts have slowed down. What a
biased dork.

 
 
 

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Post by felange » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:33:07

Quote:
>And this is what you see as proof that courts have slowed down. What a
>biased dork.

Yeah, my bad. The courts remain fast year after year and Nadal has done
ZOMFGfantastic to win on them with his by-and-large clay game.

And the moon is made of cheese. (But they are changing it to blue cheese and
it's gonna be a bit more slippy and the asteroids are gonna bounce off it
funny! :)

 
 
 

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Post by TT » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:37:16

6.5.2012 15:33, felangey kirjoitti:

Quote:
>> And this is what you see as proof that courts have slowed down. What a
>> biased dork.

> Yeah, my bad.

You have to live with your shame.
 
 
 

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Post by felange » Mon, 07 May 2012 22:22:49

Quote:
>You have to live with your shame.

Of not killfiling you with the other nutters? Nah....no shame in having fun.
:^)
 
 
 

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Post by Ulysse » Tue, 08 May 2012 00:50:16

The most intelligent/accurate comment on the blue clay comes from Paul
Annacone. He tweeted on May 4:

"First hit on BLUE CLAY for RF. This is different, will be interesting
to see how the process goes. last I checked, it's the same 4
everyone."

Note: "LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT'S THE SAME FOR EVERYONE."

Nadal needs to STFU. His whining has reached pathological levels.

 
 
 

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Post by Care » Tue, 08 May 2012 03:48:58


Quote:
> The most intelligent/accurate comment on the blue clay comes from Paul
> Annacone. He tweeted on May 4:

> "First hit on BLUE CLAY for RF. This is different, will be interesting
> to see how the process goes. last I checked, it's the same 4
> everyone."

> Note: "LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT'S THE SAME FOR EVERYONE."

> Nadal needs to STFU. His whining has reached pathological levels.

I guess the most important question is what effect the surface
has on his oft-injured shoulder and knee and..

 ;)

 
 
 

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Post by Court_ » Tue, 08 May 2012 06:42:31


Quote:
> Nadal: Slippery, irregular bounces, ball bounces fast and goes forward
> (low bounce, fast), favours big servers+first strike.

> Djokovic: Different, slice stays very low + finds it hard to judge the
> bounce

> Raonic: Slippery, low bounce

> Serena: Ridiculous + fine, and she could play on ice if need be + No
> one likes it. Im on the council, we all voted against it. Its
> interesting to see that they just did what they wanted. I just wish they
> hadnt asked us and wasted our time.

> Sharapova: Unique + "I think it's more for show than for the players.
> It's different. It is what it is.

> Stosur: Doesn't like her clothes turning blue

> Cirstea(Romania): Loves it

> Annacone: We need to give this some time

> Ivanovic: There's a lot of heavy dirt out there

> Venus: I think the blue clay is a real fashion statement

> Wozniacki: It's different but blue is my favourite colour + slightly
> faster than normal clay

> Vania King: About the same as last years red clay, but slower.

> Stakhovsky: faster, and the bounce is low.

> Sch***: The worst surface I've ever seen

So, here you have an example of different players saying different
things about the blue clay. The "official" word is that only the color
of the clay has changed. How is this situation any different than when
a HC or grass tournament rolls around and "officially" there are no
changes but you have every player and his dog talking about conditions
and the opinions are all over the map?

You are being hypocritical because you are claiming only Nadal's
subjective opinion matters about the blue clay when officially the
tournament has stated no changes except the dye color yet at a HC
tournament for instance when  "expert" HC players mention their
perception of changes even though there is no official announcement of
any changes from the tournament itself, you write those opinions off.
Do you not see your own hypocrisy?

No official changes are no official changes regardless of the venue.
That means ALL of the players and their opinions at ALL of these
tournaments are subjective and that includes Nadal at Madrid on clay
and Federer at IW for instance on HC. Got it now? Bottom line is they
are all exposed to the same conditions at all of these tournaments and
therefore have the same opportunity to figure out how to play on said
surfaces. The best player wins, end of story.

 
 
 

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Post by Court_ » Tue, 08 May 2012 06:46:22


Quote:
> The most intelligent/accurate comment on the blue clay comes from Paul
> Annacone. He tweeted on May 4:

> "First hit on BLUE CLAY for RF. This is different, will be interesting
> to see how the process goes. last I checked, it's the same 4
> everyone."

> Note: "LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT'S THE SAME FOR EVERYONE."

> Nadal needs to STFU. His whining has reached pathological levels.

In this case you are correct. Many of the top players have been
whining about Madrid including Djokovic, Federer and Nadal but Nadal
has taken this one to a whole different level. Very unprofessional and
makes him look like a sore loser even before the tournament begins.
 
 
 

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Post by modul » Tue, 08 May 2012 06:58:38


Quote:

> No official changes are no official changes regardless of the venue.
> That means ALL of the players and their opinions at ALL of these
> tournaments are subjective and that includes Nadal at Madrid on clay
> and Federer at IW for instance on HC. Got it now? Bottom line is they
> are all exposed to the same conditions at all of these tournaments and
> therefore have the same opportunity to figure out how to play on said
> surfaces. The best player wins, end of story.

It begs the question of why tournaments aren't forced to indicate the relative
speed via the ITF scientific standard.