Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Superdav » Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:22:25


http://www.livetennisguide.com/2012/04/13/can-roger-federer-reclaim-n...
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by PeteWasLuck » Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:39:17


Quote:
> http://www.livetennisguide.com/2012/04/13/can-roger-federer-reclaim-n...

He can but he won't, also Rafa will do better in this clay season.

 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Court_ » Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:40:55


Quote:

> >http://www.livetennisguide.com/2012/04/13/can-roger-federer-reclaim-n...

>  also Rafa will do better in this clay season.

Don't tell Dave that, he will have a heart attack!

 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Superdav » Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:41:32

Quote:


>> http://SportToday.org/

>He can but he won't, also Rafa will do better in this clay season.

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

and just WHAT makes you ***ing "think so" ?

oh Rafa ***ing. I see. I see.

 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by ca1hou » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:15:55


Quote:

> >http://www.livetennisguide.com/2012/04/13/can-roger-federer-reclaim-n...

> He can but he won't, also Rafa will do better in this clay season.

Yes i really dont think rafa will lose much to Novak on clay this
year.  He was really just blindsided last year
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Ulysse » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:19

This "article" is pathetic and despite its brevity, contains several
errors:

1. Fed is not 900 pts. behind Nadal, he's 350 pts. behind:
http://live-tennis.eu/

If Nadal loses in the final, Fed will be tantalizingly close to him.

2. Fed never "withdrew" from MC, it never was on his schedule this
year at all.

If Nadal loses in the MC final to Djoker, then an awful lot will
depend on Barcelona. Nadal is scheduled to play there, but even some
in the Spanish press are practically begging him to skip it to remain
fresher for RG and the summer. If Nadal does not play Barcelona,
Federer will almost surely overtake him at #2, unless Nadal wins MC
beforehand. However, most astute tennis fans know Nadal will play and
win Barcelona, thus protecting his 500 pts.

The problem will be that Fed won't hold on to #2 by the time of the FO
draw if Rafa wins either Madrid or Rome and Fed doesn't win one of
them. Another possibility (unlikely in the extreme), is that Rafa
loses second or third round in Rome and Fed wins it. Fed's best chance
to gain pts. in the clay season is at Rome, where he crashed out last
year in the third round.

It's confusing, but Rafa has to *not* win any clay event except
Barcelona and Fed has to get to the finals of either Madrid or Rome.
Or if Rafa crashes out early in either of the clay masters, that's
another way Fed can claw back to #2 and remain there by late May.

 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Superdav » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:39:04

Quote:

>This "article" is pathetic and despite its brevity, contains several
>errors:

>1. Fed is not 900 pts. behind Nadal, he's 350 pts. behind:
>http://live-tennis.eu/

>If Nadal loses in the final, Fed will be tantalizingly close to him.

>2. Fed never "withdrew" from MC, it never was on his schedule this
>year at all.

>If Nadal loses in the MC final to Djoker, then an awful lot will
>depend on Barcelona. Nadal is scheduled to play there, but even some
>in the Spanish press are practically begging him to skip it to remain
>fresher for RG and the summer. If Nadal does not play Barcelona,
>Federer will almost surely overtake him at #2, unless Nadal wins MC
>beforehand. However, most astute tennis fans know Nadal will play and
>win Barcelona, thus protecting his 500 pts.

>The problem will be that Fed won't hold on to #2 by the time of the FO
>draw if Rafa wins either Madrid or Rome and Fed doesn't win one of
>them. Another possibility (unlikely in the extreme), is that Rafa
>loses second or third round in Rome and Fed wins it. Fed's best chance
>to gain pts. in the clay season is at Rome, where he crashed out last
>year in the third round.

>It's confusing, but Rafa has to *not* win any clay event except
>Barcelona and Fed has to get to the finals of either Madrid or Rome.
>Or if Rafa crashes out early in either of the clay masters, that's
>another way Fed can claw back to #2 and remain there by late May.

a lot depends on djokovic and the space he now occupies in rafas head.
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by felange » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:42:31

Quote:
>Yes i really dont think rafa will lose much to Novak on clay this year.  He
>was really just blindsided last year

Blindsided? He was getting humped left and right on the lead to clay....if
he was going to address the problem and alter momentum for the rest of the
tennis season, clay was where he was going to do it.....motivation was at
it's max. What happened was that Nole dominated even more on clay than on
HC....his results got better. I will be very surprised if Nole loses to
Nadal on clay from here on....perhaps Nads will edge something on a bad day
for Nole....but it just doesn't stack up well for Nadal against Nole now.
His winning tactic on clay is to never miss....Nole does the same, but
harder and faster and as the world saw - left Nads sucking air pretty bad. I
think the clay walls begin to crush in on Nads this year..and still feel he
will take non-Nole loss/es. We shall see!
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by TT » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:44:16

13.4.2012 23:47, Ulysses kirjoitti:

Quote:
> 1. Fed is not 900 pts. behind Nadal, he's 350 pts. behind:
> http://live-tennis.eu/

Federer is currently 900 points behind.
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Superdav » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:52:32

Quote:

>>Yes i really dont think rafa will lose much to Novak on clay this year.  He
>>was really just blindsided last year

>Blindsided? He was getting humped left and right on the lead to clay....if
>he was going to address the problem and alter momentum for the rest of the
>tennis season, clay was where he was going to do it.....motivation was at
>it's max. What happened was that Nole dominated even more on clay than on
>HC....his results got better. I will be very surprised if Nole loses to
>Nadal on clay from here on....perhaps Nads will edge something on a bad day
>for Nole....but it just doesn't stack up well for Nadal against Nole now.
>His winning tactic on clay is to never miss....Nole does the same, but
>harder and faster and as the world saw - left Nads sucking air pretty bad. I
>think the clay walls begin to crush in on Nads this year..and still feel he
>will take non-Nole loss/es. We shall see!

imho if djock thumps his ass in mc next week rafa is done and dusted. gone.
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Care » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:57:20


Quote:

> >>Yes i really dont think rafa will lose much to Novak on clay this year. ?He
> >>was really just blindsided last year

> >Blindsided? He was getting humped left and right on the lead to clay....if
> >he was going to address the problem and alter momentum for the rest of the
> >tennis season, clay was where he was going to do it.....motivation was at
> >it's max. What happened was that Nole dominated even more on clay than on
> >HC....his results got better. I will be very surprised if Nole loses to
> >Nadal on clay from here on....perhaps Nads will edge something on a bad day
> >for Nole....but it just doesn't stack up well for Nadal against Nole now.
> >His winning tactic on clay is to never miss....Nole does the same, but
> >harder and faster and as the world saw - left Nads sucking air pretty bad. I
> >think the clay walls begin to crush in on Nads this year..and still feel he
> >will take non-Nole loss/es. We shall see!

> imho if djock thumps his ass in mc next week rafa is done and dusted. gone.

I agree, unless Uncle Toni finds some better magic fish right before
FO.
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Ulysse » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:08:13

Why would anyone think that if Nole beats Nadal in MC that he's dusted
and done? Nadal still legitimately has to be the favorite again at RG
this year, no matter if he loses everywhere during the clay season.
Now, if Djoker beats Nadal at the FO and then again at Wimbledon, it
would be a serious setback. A devastating one.

But why assign so much value to a meaningless tune up? I realize Rafa
wants to win it so he can have won a tournament 8 times. But no one
else ascribes much importance to that since MC is not a slam or the
YEC. Fed might eventually win Basel 8 times--- who besides Roger
really cares?

 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Superdav » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:15:34

Quote:

>Why would anyone think that if Nole beats Nadal in MC that he's dusted
>and done? Nadal still legitimately has to be the favorite again at RG
>this year, no matter if he loses everywhere during the clay season.
>Now, if Djoker beats Nadal at the FO and then again at Wimbledon, it
>would be a serious setback. A devastating one.

>But why assign so much value to a meaningless tune up? I realize Rafa
>wants to win it so he can have won a tournament 8 times. But no one
>else ascribes much importance to that since MC is not a slam or the
>YEC. Fed might eventually win Basel 8 times--- who besides Roger
>really cares?

because nole is totally deeps in rafas head and rafa thinks his beloved clay will save him and if he
loses his eight final in a row to nole over two seasons including clay well his mental state will be
reduced to mush and there is no ***ing way he will play the FO let alone win it.
 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by Bob Borghar » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:42:24


Quote:
> This "article" is pathetic and despite its brevity, contains several
> errors:

> 1. Fed is not 900 pts. behind Nadal, he's 350 pts. behind:http://live-tennis.eu/

> If Nadal loses in the final, Fed will be tantalizingly close to him.

> 2. Fed never "withdrew" from MC, it never was on his schedule this
> year at all.

> If Nadal loses in the MC final to Djoker, then an awful lot will
> depend on Barcelona. Nadal is scheduled to play there, but even some
> in the Spanish press are practically begging him to skip it to remain
> fresher for RG and the summer. If Nadal does not play Barcelona,
> Federer will almost surely overtake him at #2, unless Nadal wins MC
> beforehand. However, most astute tennis fans know Nadal will play and
> win Barcelona, thus protecting his 500 pts.

> The problem will be that Fed won't hold on to #2 by the time of the FO
> draw if Rafa wins either Madrid or Rome and Fed doesn't win one of
> them. Another possibility (unlikely in the extreme), is that Rafa
> loses second or third round in Rome and Fed wins it. Fed's best chance
> to gain pts. in the clay season is at Rome, where he crashed out last
> year in the third round.

> It's confusing, but Rafa has to *not* win any clay event except
> Barcelona and Fed has to get to the finals of either Madrid or Rome.
> Or if Rafa crashes out early in either of the clay masters, that's
> another way Fed can claw back to #2 and remain there by late May.

What makes you think the site you provided is more accurate than the
ATP-site? According to the ATP Fed is 900 behind now and loses 180
more points from MC coming off... So Rafa crashing out early at at
least one of the 4 tune-up events *and* Federer winning either one of
the two mandatories is the only way Fed takes #2 before the FO; highly
unlikely.

Fed should play MC or Barca if he wants a realistic chance of seeding
# at the FO. Of course that undermines his Rome and FO chances. Better
to look at the FO through USO stretch to go for it. Better rewards in
terms of potential titles there as well.

 
 
 

Can Roger Federer reclaim No. 2, before French Open?

Post by jdeluis » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:25:25


Quote:
> What makes you think the site you provided is more accurate than the
> ATP-site?

You think Uly cares about accuracy?  Nah.  She only cares about drama,
exaggeration and loooooots of it.