MN on Clijsters

MN on Clijsters

Post by Hops » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:32:37


Q.  What is missing in Kim Clijsters' game which doesn't allow her to beat
Justine?

Martina Navratilova:  She's too far back.  She's too far back in the court,
and she's too far back in her positioning.  She's got the strokes, but she
doesn't trust it.  She's got a good volley.   When she's at the net playing
doubles, her volleys are just fine, but she doesn't go foward, she doesn't
force the action. And ultimately, all things being equal, Henin will win 4
out of 5 matches because she has that extra dimension.  And Kim has it,
perhaps not as much as Henin, but she has more than she shows.  She's too
far back, too passive.

 
 
 

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Post by Whispe » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 13:45:31


Quote:

> Q.  What is missing in Kim Clijsters' game which doesn't allow her to beat
> Justine?

> Martina Navratilova:  She's too far back.  She's too far back in the
court,
> and she's too far back in her positioning.  She's got the strokes, but she
> doesn't trust it.  She's got a good volley.   When she's at the net
playing
> doubles, her volleys are just fine, but she doesn't go foward, she doesn't
> force the action. And ultimately, all things being equal, Henin will win 4
> out of 5 matches because she has that extra dimension.  And Kim has it,
> perhaps not as much as Henin, but she has more than she shows.  She's too
> far back, too passive.

Pretty much agree, but there is also the talent factor which Kim can't do
anything about.  Henin clearly should win 4/5....

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Jaro » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 13:55:07


Quote:

> Q.  What is missing in Kim Clijsters' game which doesn't allow her to beat
> Justine?

> Martina Navratilova:  She's too far back.  She's too far back in the
court,
> and she's too far back in her positioning.  She's got the strokes, but she
> doesn't trust it.  She's got a good volley.   When she's at the net
playing
> doubles, her volleys are just fine, but she doesn't go foward, she doesn't
> force the action. And ultimately, all things being equal, Henin will win 4
> out of 5 matches because she has that extra dimension.  And Kim has it,
> perhaps not as much as Henin, but she has more than she shows.  She's too
> far back, too passive.

IMO, Henin pushes Clijsters off the baseline with superior strokes. That's
territory that has to be earned, you can't just 'decide' to move forward...

 
 
 

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Post by Josh Parson » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:12:05



Quote:



>> Q.  What is missing in Kim Clijsters' game which doesn't allow her to
>> beat Justine?

>> Martina Navratilova:  She's too far back.  She's too far back in the
> court,
>> and she's too far back in her positioning.  She's got the strokes,
>> but she doesn't trust it.  She's got a good volley.   When she's at
>> the net
> playing
>> doubles, her volleys are just fine, but she doesn't go foward, she
>> doesn't force the action. And ultimately, all things being equal,
>> Henin will win 4 out of 5 matches because she has that extra
>> dimension.  And Kim has it, perhaps not as much as Henin, but she has
>> more than she shows.  She's too far back, too passive.

> IMO, Henin pushes Clijsters off the baseline with superior strokes.
> That's territory that has to be earned, you can't just 'decide' to
> move forward...

Clijsters is really awful at the net too.  There were many oppportunities
for her to close out points with slams but she jus pushed the ball and
Henin invariably would wind up winning the point.

When Venus or Serena get to the net, they're trying to rip your head off.

 
 
 

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Post by Whispe » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:52:32


Quote:



> > Q.  What is missing in Kim Clijsters' game which doesn't allow her to
beat
> > Justine?

> > Martina Navratilova:  She's too far back.  She's too far back in the
> court,
> > and she's too far back in her positioning.  She's got the strokes, but
she
> > doesn't trust it.  She's got a good volley.   When she's at the net
> playing
> > doubles, her volleys are just fine, but she doesn't go foward, she
doesn't
> > force the action. And ultimately, all things being equal, Henin will win
4
> > out of 5 matches because she has that extra dimension.  And Kim has it,
> > perhaps not as much as Henin, but she has more than she shows.  She's
too
> > far back, too passive.

> IMO, Henin pushes Clijsters off the baseline with superior strokes. That's
> territory that has to be earned, you can't just 'decide' to move

forward...

When you look closely where Kim's shots were landing you realize she played
as well as she possibly could.  Henin was wacking balls back above her
shoulders.  I have no idea how someone her size does that....

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Jaro » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 23:20:01

Quote:
> When you look closely where Kim's shots were landing you realize she
played
> as well as she possibly could.  Henin was wacking balls back above her
> shoulders.  I have no idea how someone her size does that....

... or generate that amount of power. If someone able to see the future were
to tell me that either Serena or Henin will fail a steroid drug test in the
next 6 months and to guess which one it would be, i'd bet it would be
Henin...
 
 
 

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Post by mimu » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:05:20



Quote:
>> When you look closely where Kim's shots were landing you realize she
>played
>> as well as she possibly could.  Henin was wacking balls back above her
>> shoulders.  I have no idea how someone her size does that....

>... or generate that amount of power. If someone able to see the future were
>to tell me that either Serena or Henin will fail a steroid drug test in the
>next 6 months and to guess which one it would be, i'd bet it would be
>Henin...

I think the key there actually can be found in a story told by the
commentators on CBS I think it was, that her trainer had her on a
regimen so harsh that she was actually crying during workouts, and he
told her someday she'd be happy that she was doing what she was doing.

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Post by Steve Jaro » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:35:12

Quote:
> I think the key there actually can be found in a story told by the
> commentators on CBS I think it was, that her trainer had her on a
> regimen so harsh that she was actually crying during workouts, and he
> told her someday she'd be happy that she was doing what she was doing.

Makes sense... Henin does seem fanatically committed to working as hard as
she can to be the best.

Can't find any fault with that...

 
 
 

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Post by mimu » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:34:33



Quote:
>> I think the key there actually can be found in a story told by the
>> commentators on CBS I think it was, that her trainer had her on a
>> regimen so harsh that she was actually crying during workouts, and he
>> told her someday she'd be happy that she was doing what she was doing.

>Makes sense... Henin does seem fanatically committed to working as hard as
>she can to be the best.

>Can't find any fault with that...

I actually noticed during the match how puffy- soft Clijsters looked
compared to Henin- Hardenne, which seemed especially striking
considering Clijster's general build-- have you noticed her neck?

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Post by Robert B. Walt » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:51:28

Quote:



> >> I think the key there actually can be found in a story told by the
> >> commentators on CBS I think it was, that her trainer had her on a
> >> regimen so harsh that she was actually crying during workouts, and he
> >> told her someday she'd be happy that she was doing what she was doing.

> >Makes sense... Henin does seem fanatically committed to working as hard as
> >she can to be the best.

> >Can't find any fault with that...

> I actually noticed during the match how puffy- soft Clijsters looked
> compared to Henin- Hardenne, which seemed especially striking
> considering Clijster's general build-- have you noticed her neck?

That's just the way she's built, I think. She's certainly
fast enough! Though she does rather look like she was meant
to play American Football rather than tennis.

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than telling the actual truth.
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Post by Olushol » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:14:04

Maybe it's the anti-pregnancy hormones.



Quote:



> > >> I think the key there actually can be found in a story told by the
> > >> commentators on CBS I think it was, that her trainer had her on a
> > >> regimen so harsh that she was actually crying during workouts, and he
> > >> told her someday she'd be happy that she was doing what she was
doing.

> > >Makes sense... Henin does seem fanatically committed to working as hard
as
> > >she can to be the best.

> > >Can't find any fault with that...

> > I actually noticed during the match how puffy- soft Clijsters looked
> > compared to Henin- Hardenne, which seemed especially striking
> > considering Clijster's general build-- have you noticed her neck?

> That's just the way she's built, I think. She's certainly
> fast enough! Though she does rather look like she was meant
> to play American Football rather than tennis.

> --
> In modern reporting, the appearance of objectivity is more important
> than telling the actual truth.
>          -- Paul Greenberg (paraphrased)

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Jaro » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:52:13

Quote:
> I actually noticed during the match how puffy- soft Clijsters looked
> compared to Henin- Hardenne,

You just noticed that? Clijsters has always carried some cottage-cheese in
the ass and thighs. She's not that fit...
 
 
 

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Post by Lloy » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:01:24

Quote:

> ... or generate that amount of power. If someone able to see the future
were
> to tell me that either Serena or Henin will fail a steroid drug test in
the
> next 6 months and to guess which one it would be, i'd bet it would be
> Henin...

I said you had class. I take it back.
 
 
 

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Post by Steve Jaro » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:15:38


Quote:


> > ... or generate that amount of power. If someone able to see the future
> were
> > to tell me that either Serena or Henin will fail a steroid drug test in
> the
> > next 6 months and to guess which one it would be, i'd bet it would be
> > Henin...

> I said you had class. I take it back.

lol... as if anyone gave a shit.
 
 
 

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Post by Lloy » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:49:07

said you had class. I take it back.

Quote:

> lol... as if anyone gave a shit.

Which only reinforces my opinion about you..........an ignorant ***er.