Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by zepflo.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:59:21


If we had a team competition (of champions from recent years) who would
win

Lets say 4 men and 3 women

Team A (single handed backhand)
Sampras, Federer, Lendl, Mcenroe, Graf, Navratilova, Henin

Team B (double handed backhand)
Borg, Connors, Agassi, Wilander, Evert, Seles, Serena

What happens on?

1) Clay  - (most likely team B)
2) Grass - (definitely team A)
3) Outdoor Hard court - (both are about equal)
4) Indoor hardcourt - (team A has a slight edge)
5) Indoor carpet - (team A)

Looks like one handed backhand champions are stronger on most surfaces.
Your thoughts!

 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by Adam Thirni » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:04:23

A would annihilate B on every surface but clay

 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by zepflo.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:19:30

Quote:

> A would annihilate B on every surface but clay

if you think of it only 4 one-handed backhand players have dominated
clay in recent times - Lendl (3 slams), Kuerten (3 slams), Graf (6
slams), Henin (3 slams... Am I right abt this?)

 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by geea » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:23:35

To me this is purely a question of aesthetics. I would guess that most
people (like myself) find the single handed backhand more beautiful.
But generally speaking, I don't think you could say that the single
handed is superior to the double handed. Always depends on the
individual talent.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by zepflo.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:33:42

Quote:

> To me this is purely a question of aesthetics. I would guess that most
> people (like myself) find the single handed backhand more beautiful.
> But generally speaking, I don't think you could say that the single
> handed is superior to the double handed. Always depends on the
> individual talent.

I think single handed players have a big advantage on grass. Very few
double handers have won it. And whenever they won it it is because the
draw was weak ( Connors 74m, Hewitt 02) or somebody played very poorly
(McEnroe in 82 final)

Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass

 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by fearsomeforehan » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:37:33

Quote:


> > A would annihilate B on every surface but clay

> if you think of it only 4 one-handed backhand players have dominated
> clay in recent times - Lendl (3 slams), Kuerten (3 slams), Graf (6
> slams), Henin (3 slams... Am I right abt this?)

Nadal, Seles and Bruguera, ASV, Courier to an extent.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by geea » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:07:52

Quote:
> I think single handed players have a big advantage on grass. Very few
> double handers have won it. And whenever they won it it is because the
> draw was weak ( Connors 74m, Hewitt 02) or somebody played very poorly
> (McEnroe in 82 final)
> Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass

Pardon me, but that's a bit like saying that bearded lawyers from
Kentucky can't become President of the United States, and that Lincoln
was the only anomaly.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by pedrod.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:07:07

Quote:

> If we had a team competition (of champions from recent years) who would
> win

> Lets say 4 men and 3 women

> Team A (single handed backhand)
> Sampras, Federer, Lendl, Mcenroe, Graf, Navratilova, Henin

> Team B (double handed backhand)
> Borg, Connors, Agassi, Wilander, Evert, Seles, Serena

> What happens on?

> 1) Clay  - (most likely team B)
> 2) Grass - (definitely team A)
> 3) Outdoor Hard court - (both are about equal)
> 4) Indoor hardcourt - (team A has a slight edge)
> 5) Indoor carpet - (team A)

> Looks like one handed backhand champions are stronger on most surfaces.
> Your thoughts!

Agreed that it comes down to matchups, but given that I still think A
would obliterate B, even on clay - unless they used standard-sized wood
racquets. With modern equipment, Evert, Connors and Borg would be
clobbered by anyone on the other team, and Lendl and Federer can hang
with any of the men, whereas Graf and Henin-Hardenne can stick with the
women. McEnroe, Navratilova and Sampras were no slouches on clay
either, really, even if they are better known as fast court specialists.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by pedrod.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:09:10

Quote:



> > > A would annihilate B on every surface but clay

> > if you think of it only 4 one-handed backhand players have dominated
> > clay in recent times - Lendl (3 slams), Kuerten (3 slams), Graf (6
> > slams), Henin (3 slams... Am I right abt this?)

> Nadal, Seles and Bruguera, ASV, Courier to an extent.

None of whom are one-handed. I think you misread the post.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by fearsomeforehan » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:11:27

Quote:




> > > > A would annihilate B on every surface but clay

> > > if you think of it only 4 one-handed backhand players have dominated
> > > clay in recent times - Lendl (3 slams), Kuerten (3 slams), Graf (6
> > > slams), Henin (3 slams... Am I right abt this?)

> > Nadal, Seles and Bruguera, ASV, Courier to an extent.

> None of whom are one-handed. I think you misread the post.

oops..I did. I thought Raja said that only one-handed backhand players
have dominated in recent times.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by zepflo.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:20:53

Quote:


> > If we had a team competition (of champions from recent years) who would
> > win

> > Lets say 4 men and 3 women

> > Team A (single handed backhand)
> > Sampras, Federer, Lendl, Mcenroe, Graf, Navratilova, Henin

> > Team B (double handed backhand)
> > Borg, Connors, Agassi, Wilander, Evert, Seles, Serena

> > What happens on?

> > 1) Clay  - (most likely team B)
> > 2) Grass - (definitely team A)
> > 3) Outdoor Hard court - (both are about equal)
> > 4) Indoor hardcourt - (team A has a slight edge)
> > 5) Indoor carpet - (team A)

> > Looks like one handed backhand champions are stronger on most surfaces.
> > Your thoughts!

> Agreed that it comes down to matchups, but given that I still think A
> would obliterate B, even on clay - unless they used standard-sized wood
> racquets.

Screw wooden raquets. I was talking about modern rackets. The question
If these guys playing at peak were transported to 2006 what would
happen?

Quote:
> With modern equipment, Evert, Connors and Borg would be
> clobbered by anyone on the other team, and Lendl and Federer can hang
> with any of the men, whereas Graf and Henin-Hardenne can stick with the
> women. McEnroe, Navratilova and Sampras were no slouches on clay

I doubt McEnroe might be able to handle Borg and Agassi on clay.
Sampras vs peak Borg on clay will be very tough on Sampras. He will
hold off Agassi and Borg though. Steffi vs Evert will be fun. But I
think Steffi will overpower her.

This will produce some dream matchups. Borg vs Federer on grass/clay.
Seles vs Graf - anywhere, Lendl vs Agassi - grass, Henin vs Evert -
clay, Connors vs Federer - hc... it will be fun

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> either, really, even if they are better known as fast court specialists.

 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by Sakari Lun » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:18:03


Quote:


>> To me this is purely a question of aesthetics. I would guess that most
>> people (like myself) find the single handed backhand more beautiful.
>> But generally speaking, I don't think you could say that the single
>> handed is superior to the double handed. Always depends on the
>> individual talent.

>I think single handed players have a big advantage on grass. Very few
>double handers have won it. And whenever they won it it is because the
>draw was weak ( Connors 74m, Hewitt 02) or somebody played very poorly
>(McEnroe in 82 final)

>Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass

Hey, your girl won it. Was it because the draw was weak or somebody
played very poorly? Also Venus and Serena have won it a few times.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by zepflo.. » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:22:32

Quote:



> >> To me this is purely a question of aesthetics. I would guess that most
> >> people (like myself) find the single handed backhand more beautiful.
> >> But generally speaking, I don't think you could say that the single
> >> handed is superior to the double handed. Always depends on the
> >> individual talent.

> >I think single handed players have a big advantage on grass. Very few
> >double handers have won it. And whenever they won it it is because the
> >draw was weak ( Connors 74m, Hewitt 02) or somebody played very poorly
> >(McEnroe in 82 final)

> >Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass

> Hey, your girl won it. Was it because the draw was weak or somebody
> played very poorly? Also Venus and Serena have won it a few times.

I was talking about the men. The women's circuit hardly had good serve
volleyers for a long time.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by Sakari Lun » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:17:30


Quote:




>> >> To me this is purely a question of aesthetics. I would guess that most
>> >> people (like myself) find the single handed backhand more beautiful.
>> >> But generally speaking, I don't think you could say that the single
>> >> handed is superior to the double handed. Always depends on the
>> >> individual talent.

>> >I think single handed players have a big advantage on grass. Very few
>> >double handers have won it. And whenever they won it it is because the
>> >draw was weak ( Connors 74m, Hewitt 02) or somebody played very poorly
>> >(McEnroe in 82 final)

>> >Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass

>> Hey, your girl won it. Was it because the draw was weak or somebody
>> played very poorly? Also Venus and Serena have won it a few times.

>I was talking about the men.

"Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass"?

Quote:
>The women's circuit hardly had good serve
>volleyers for a long time.

You didn't talk about serve and volley in this thread but single
handed vs. double handed backhand.
 
 
 

Single Handed Backhand vs Double Handed Backhand

Post by Mikko ?mm?l » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:52:56

Quote:


>>To me this is purely a question of aesthetics. I would guess that most
>>people (like myself) find the single handed backhand more beautiful.
>>But generally speaking, I don't think you could say that the single
>>handed is superior to the double handed. Always depends on the
>>individual talent.

> I think single handed players have a big advantage on grass. Very few
> double handers have won it. And whenever they won it it is because the
> draw was weak ( Connors 74m, Hewitt 02) or somebody played very poorly
> (McEnroe in 82 final)

> Borg/Evert are the only anomaly on grass

Also Agassi 1992 and Ivanisevic 2001...

.mikko