Serena on a roll

Serena on a roll

Post by soccerfan77 » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:40:29



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> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Raja The Great


> >Calhoun do you think the more talented one always wins. If that is the case McEnroe would have hardly ever lost to Connors, Borg, Lendl etc. he lost 14+7+21 matches to them

> comparing sharapova to mcenroe? wow. now i've seen it all. i agree
> that sometimes a brute force slug can beat a more fluid and talented
> player, but sharapova certainly doesn't ooze talent. she's tall, hits
> hard from the baseline, and when on, can win. that's about it. poor
> serve, poor movement, no net game.

> bob

Shows what a clueless moron you are really.
 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by bob » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:39:01

On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Court_1

Quote:


>> comparing sharapova to mcenroe? wow. now i've seen it all. i agree
>> that sometimes a brute force slug can beat a more fluid and talented
>> player, but sharapova certainly doesn't ooze talent. she's tall, hits
>> hard from the baseline, and when on, can win. that's about it. poor
>> serve, poor movement, no net game.

>That is not really the case. When Sharapova is on, which is most of
>the time, she can beat ANY of the other WTA players but the point is,
>she can't beat Serena in a big stage match. She has proven that over
>and over again for the past NINE years! Compared to most of the other
>WTA players, Sharapova is very talented, but compared to Serena, not
>so much.

>P.S. Sharapova's serve is not poor and her movement has improved a lot
>over the past two years, you are obviously not watching her much.

no, i have watched her plenty last 2 yrs.

her serve, for a girl 6'2" is an embarrassment, and her movement got
pretty good last year for a short time, but mostly just appeared so
cause we're used to seeing her previously terrible movement.

bob

 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by bob » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:39:23

On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:40:29 -0700 (PDT), soccerfan777

Quote:


>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Raja The Great


>> >Calhoun do you think the more talented one always wins. If that is the case McEnroe would have hardly ever lost to Connors, Borg, Lendl etc. he lost 14+7+21 matches to them

>> comparing sharapova to mcenroe? wow. now i've seen it all. i agree
>> that sometimes a brute force slug can beat a more fluid and talented
>> player, but sharapova certainly doesn't ooze talent. she's tall, hits
>> hard from the baseline, and when on, can win. that's about it. poor
>> serve, poor movement, no net game.

>> bob

>Shows what a clueless moron you are really.

and i'm being kind cause i  like the girl...

bob

 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by ca1hou » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:19:00

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> Calhoun do you think the more talented one always wins. If that is the case McEnroe would have hardly ever lost to Connors, Borg, Lendl etc. he lost 14+7+21 matches to them

Not at all but i look at talent as something that entrench.  So if you put an informed Serena and an informed Maria on the court Serena is going to win in straights. McEnroe is a product of pure talent minimum training. Connors, Brog and Lendl were much more fanatical about tennis.  Connor hit balls all day, Brog was crazy about his weight and Lendl trained until his team was sleep.  
 
 
 

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Post by Raja The Grea » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:36:47

So basically you are saying if Sharapova trains a lot she will win just like Borg, Connors and Lendl did against McEnroe?

I feel she just has to increase her 1st serve percentage. If she can hold her serve she can demolish Serena like she did in 2004.

But the main question is will she put the effort to train hard and improve her serve

 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by heyguy.. » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:52:42

Quote:

> So basically you are saying if Sharapova trains a lot she will win just like Borg, Connors and Lendl did against McEnroe?

> I feel she just has to increase her 1st serve percentage. If she can hold her serve she can demolish Serena like she did in 2004.

> But the main question is will she put the effort to train hard and improve her serve

The problem with her serve is mental at this point.  Her shoulder injury was 5 years ago? No amount of physical training is going to turn her into a clutch server again (especially against Serena).
 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by soccerfan77 » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 03:20:48


Quote:

> > So basically you are saying if Sharapova trains a lot she will win just like Borg, Connors and Lendl did against McEnroe?

> > I feel she just has to increase her 1st serve percentage. If she can hold her serve she can demolish Serena like she did in 2004.

> > But the main question is will she put the effort to train hard and improve her serve

> The problem with her serve is mental at this point. ?Her shoulder injury was 5 years ago? No amount of physical training is going to turn her into a clutch server again (especially against Serena).

I think you are right... Just like Federer is unable to beat Rafa
these days... all the losses might have got to Maria. But who knows...
I am betting on her against Serena on red clay at FO.
 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by guyper » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 03:23:09

Quote:



> > > So basically you are saying if Sharapova trains a lot she will win just like Borg, Connors and Lendl did against McEnroe?

> > > I feel she just has to increase her 1st serve percentage. If she can hold her serve she can demolish Serena like she did in 2004.

> > > But the main question is will she put the effort to train hard and improve her serve

> > The problem with her serve is mental at this point. ?Her shoulder injury was 5 years ago? No amount of physical training is going to turn her into a clutch server again (especially against Serena).

> I think you are right... Just like Federer is unable to beat Rafa

> these days... all the losses might have got to Maria. But who knows...

> I am betting on her against Serena on red clay at FO.

Why r u so fukking dumb, paki??
 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by Court_ » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 06:56:17


Quote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Court_1



> >> comparing sharapova to mcenroe? wow. now i've seen it all. i agree
> >> that sometimes a brute force slug can beat a more fluid and talented
> >> player, but sharapova certainly doesn't ooze talent. she's tall, hits
> >> hard from the baseline, and when on, can win. that's about it. poor
> >> serve, poor movement, no net game.

> >That is not really the case. When Sharapova is on, which is most of
> >the time, she can beat ANY of the other WTA players but the point is,
> >she can't beat Serena in a big stage match. She has proven that over
> >and over again for the past NINE years! Compared to most of the other
> >WTA players, Sharapova is very talented, but compared to Serena, not
> >so much.

> >P.S. Sharapova's serve is not poor and her movement has improved a lot
> >over the past two years, you are obviously not watching her much.

> no, i have watched her plenty last 2 yrs.

> her serve, for a girl 6'2" is an embarrassment, and her movement got
> pretty good last year for a short time, but mostly just appeared so
> cause we're used to seeing her previously terrible movement.

Her biggest problem is not her serve (although her serve can be
erratic) or her movement. There are many players who have worse
movement than Sharapova. Her biggest problem is she has one plan and
that is to powerfully hit winners off of both sides 24/7. If that plan
is not working and she plays a player who can absorb her power and mix
it up against Sharapova, Sharapova has no other options and she begins
to make errors. Serena does everything better than Sharapova, it is a
stupid match-up.
 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by Raja The Grea » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 07:50:11

What is Serena's game plan?
 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by ca1hou » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:26:27

Quote:

> So basically you are saying if Sharapova trains a lot she will win just like Borg, Connors and Lendl did against McEnroe?

> I feel she just has to increase her 1st serve percentage. If she can hold her serve she can demolish Serena like she did in 2004.

> But the main question is will she put the effort to train hard and improve her serve

No not at all, training want help Pova. Serena to far head.  Mac would have been like that as well but he found coke and Borg left him with nothing to really do in tennis.  

Today Serena want everybody to know that in 2004 she was not in the right mindset.  The *** does have like 6 sister so there could have been something wrong with one of the Williams family which are famous for never discuss personal business.  Serena said that at the time but since it was a pretty white girl who beat her everybody jump down on started to hate Serena. I really think Serena has and done worst then that but i guess that was icing on the cake for most tennis fans.  I sometime wish the *** would hire PR professional like Nadal but as of right now classiness is not what Serena is going to bring.  Ass *** on the other hand is another story.  

 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by bob » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:30:04

On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Court_1

Quote:


>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Court_1



>> >> comparing sharapova to mcenroe? wow. now i've seen it all. i agree
>> >> that sometimes a brute force slug can beat a more fluid and talented
>> >> player, but sharapova certainly doesn't ooze talent. she's tall, hits
>> >> hard from the baseline, and when on, can win. that's about it. poor
>> >> serve, poor movement, no net game.

>> >That is not really the case. When Sharapova is on, which is most of
>> >the time, she can beat ANY of the other WTA players but the point is,
>> >she can't beat Serena in a big stage match. She has proven that over
>> >and over again for the past NINE years! Compared to most of the other
>> >WTA players, Sharapova is very talented, but compared to Serena, not
>> >so much.

>> >P.S. Sharapova's serve is not poor and her movement has improved a lot
>> >over the past two years, you are obviously not watching her much.

>> no, i have watched her plenty last 2 yrs.

>> her serve, for a girl 6'2" is an embarrassment, and her movement got
>> pretty good last year for a short time, but mostly just appeared so
>> cause we're used to seeing her previously terrible movement.

>Her biggest problem is not her serve (although her serve can be
>erratic) or her movement. There are many players who have worse
>movement than Sharapova. Her biggest problem is she has one plan and
>that is to powerfully hit winners off of both sides 24/7. If that plan
>is not working and she plays a player who can absorb her power and mix
>it up against Sharapova, Sharapova has no other options and she begins
>to make errors. Serena does everything better than Sharapova, it is a
>stupid match-up.

she does that very limited but somtimes successful plan cause that's
*all* she can do. that's why i said she's not the most talented girl
on tour. to which you disagreed, then replied with a post that
confirms my original supposition. mucho gracias!

bob

 
 
 

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Post by Court_ » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:02:32


Quote:
> What is Serena's game plan?

Her plan is to be one of the greatest female players of all
time(something Sharapova will never get close to as great as she is),
a plan which she has already accomplished as she is in the top five
group. It is only a matter of how much further she can propel herself
now--i.e. can she equal Evert and Navratilova and get to 18 slams?
Sure looks like that is the master game plan and something that is
within reach.

Come on Raja, stop playing dumb, Sharapova and Williams are in two
different leagues when it comes to tennis talent and achievements.

 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by soccerfan77 » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:04:35


Quote:

> > So basically you are saying if Sharapova trains a lot she will win just like Borg, Connors and Lendl did against McEnroe?

> > I feel she just has to increase her 1st serve percentage. If she can hold her serve she can demolish Serena like she did in 2004.

> > But the main question is will she put the effort to train hard and improve her serve

> No not at all, training want help Pova. Serena to far head. ?Mac would have been like that as well but he found coke and Borg left him with nothing to really do in tennis.

BS... Lendl was kicking his ass even in 1981. McEnroe didn't find coke
until he semi retired in 1986. Enough excuses for him. You sound like
Whisper
Quote:

> Today Serena want everybody to know that in 2004 she was not in the right mindset. ?The *** does have like 6 sister so there could have been something wrong with one of the Williams family which are famous for never discuss personal business. ?Serena said that at the time but since it was a pretty white girl who beat her everybody jump down on started to hate Serena. I really think Serena has and done worst then that but i guess that was icing on the cake for most tennis fans. ?I sometime wish the *** would hire PR professional like Nadal but as of right now classiness is not what Serena is going to bring. ?Ass *** on the other hand is another story.

 
 
 

Serena on a roll

Post by soccerfan77 » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:06:12


Quote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Court_1



> >> comparing sharapova to mcenroe? wow. now i've seen it all. i agree
> >> that sometimes a brute force slug can beat a more fluid and talented
> >> player, but sharapova certainly doesn't ooze talent. she's tall, hits
> >> hard from the baseline, and when on, can win. that's about it. poor
> >> serve, poor movement, no net game.

> >That is not really the case. When Sharapova is on, which is most of
> >the time, she can beat ANY of the other WTA players but the point is,
> >she can't beat Serena in a big stage match. She has proven that over
> >and over again for the past NINE years! Compared to most of the other
> >WTA players, Sharapova is very talented, but compared to Serena, not
> >so much.

> >P.S. Sharapova's serve is not poor and her movement has improved a lot
> >over the past two years, you are obviously not watching her much.

> no, i have watched her plenty last 2 yrs.

> her serve, for a girl 6'2" is an embarrassment,

yeah right... Thats why destroys 99% of the tour. She takes too much
risk on second serve and double faults too often. Otherwise she is
fine. I think the only embarrassment over here is you.

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> and her movement got
> pretty good last year for a short time, but mostly just appeared so
> cause we're used to seeing her previously terrible movement.

nonsense.

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> bob