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Woody
>Better advice, IMO, is to get yourself to a sports physician. The shoulder
>is a complex set of muscles, tendons, and ligaments--and only an arrogant
>bonehead would suggest that you apply self-remedies to such a serious problem
>as you report having. Such a bonehead has no way of evaluating your pain
>to present such a correlation to *his* pain, and his correctives may be
>completely inappropriate for you.
In my case, as I described,
I just took some rest (by not playing tennis) until it heals.
And during the time, I did some practice (without balls - mostly just
correcting the forms in *slow* motion). I stopped if it ever gave me
pain. But mostly with slow motion (and without the ball), it didn't give me
any pain. But it may vary.
But see the injury this way (positive side).
1) This is also a good time to read tennis books and analyze how pros do (you
not only need bones in your head to protect your brain from being abnormal
but also you need to fill something important in :) )
2) Now, you have time to do other activities :)
3) Any other ? (I guess many :) )
Happy Thanksgiving !
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Woody
Better advice, IMO, is to get yourself to a sports physician. The shoulder
is a complex set of muscles, tendons, and ligaments--and only an arrogant
bonehead would suggest that you apply self-remedies to such a serious problem
as you report having. Such a bonehead has no way of evaluating your pain
to present such a correlation to *his* pain, and his correctives may be
completely inappropriate for you.
The diagnosis from the sports physician should give you an indication as to
what the problem is (insufficient strength, for example, or attempting to
perform a motion in a way that the joint structurally can't do very well)--
and that will allow the physician to suggest a remedy (strength building
exercises, or lessons with a certified teaching pro to correct your motion).
Don't risk having to quit playing tennis due to a serious injury to the
joint and/or its surrounding tissues. Experiment with racquet grips,
and that sort of stuff--but for serious pain, see a sports physician.
Richard
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"Freedom discovers man the moment he loses concern over what impression
he is making or about to make." -Bruce Lee, _Tao of Jeet Kune Do_
I also had some shoulder problem, and analyzed myself why this happened
some time ago. I have tried many tennis instruction books, but strangely I
have not found any book which explains the serve in detail as Braden explained
about forehand in his book, Tennis for the Future.
First, the shoulder problem was caused mostly when I served. So, I will
explain the shoulder problem assuming that it is caused by serve
(or overhead). Again, it is just the analysis for my own
case, and I am posting it for anyone who might suffer similarly.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
The serve is very complicated. First, it has three pivots for swing -
shoulder, elbow, and wrist. All these three pivots are working together
simultaneously, and you have to hit the fallen ball in *exact timing*.
The most important thing is, IMHO, wrist should be the major pivot.
Your shoulder and elbow should be used just for placing the wrist in
an appropriate place on your head.
If you use shoulder or elbow for your major pivot, and if you try string
serve, this is the time when your shoulder hurts.
This happens especially when your toss is bad. You suddenly lose your
comfortable wrist pivot point, and you have to mostly extend your arm to
hit the ball and you use your shoulder for your major pivot to get the
timing and hitting point. And since you try strong serve, you give lots of
force in your shoulder and arm to provide fast arm rotation. This is the
time when you hurt most.
In my case, I overcame this problem by
1) taking rest until it heals.
- this is also good since I have time to forget the old bad habit :)
2) practicing serve motion without the ball.
- I tried to make the new serve motion my habit, so that I don't need
to think in real time and so that my old bad habit comes out
unknowingly.
Hope this helps.
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Woody
Rrrrrrrrrrrright.
Got any snake oil, homes?
Richard
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"Freedom discovers man the moment he loses concern with the impression
he is making or about to make." - Bruce Lee, _Tao of Jeet Kune Do_
* > * [...Woody's medical advice, deleted...]
* Which one is more arrogant IMHO or IMO ? :)
I don't know, but I'm sure you'll post an uninformed opinion about it.
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"Freedom discovers man the moment he loses concern over what impression
he is making or about to make." -Bruce Lee, _Tao of Jeet Kune Do_
But about 10 months ago, I started lifting weights to build up the
shoulder muscles. Since I have strengthened those muscles, my
shoulder pain has gone completely away. One simple exercise that I
do is called in some weight lifting books a deltoid raise. You take
a 15 to 20 lb dumbell in one hand and let it hang down by your side.
You then keep your arm fairly straight and raise the dumbell out
from your side until your arm is parallel to the ground. Then you
lower the dumbell the same way. This exercise isolates and
strengthens the deltoid muscle of the shoulder.
I am a big believer in using weights to strengthen the muscles around
injury prone areas such as shoulders, elbows, knees, and lower backs.
It has worked wonders for me.
Have you seen a sports medicine doctor? I have a co-worker who had
similar problems, and it turned out to be a rotator cuff problem. The
doctor prescribed some exercises to help strengthen the area and it
worked out okay.
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Samir Bhakta Lockheed Martin Services
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education."
-- Mark Twain --
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I think lifting weights, combined with a good stretching regimen, is
a great way to avoid injuries. Good advice, Mike.
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Samir Bhakta Lockheed Martin Services
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education."
-- Mark Twain --
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>I think lifting weights, combined with a good stretching regimen, is
>a great way to avoid injuries. Good advice, Mike.
regards,
Anirban
Thanks.
Dai
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