Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Invisibl » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:03


Most pundits have been seeing the Roddick v Federer final as an
inevitability, but having watched Roddick against Bracciali, and
Federer now against Kiefer, I'm finding the two favourites far from
convincing. Bracciali clearly showed that the Roddick serve isn't quite
as invincible as we may once have thought, and perhaps, if he was a bit
more experienced in 5 sets, there may have been an upset.

Federer has been coasting through matches, but has been looking rather
complacent, making rather a lot of unforced errors, and not really
forcing the issue. Kiefer appears to be dictating a lot of points with
Federer playing too defensive, and looking vulnerable to passing shots
at the net (approach shots aren't looking his usual standard). I think
he'll beat Kiefer, but I really think he's looking beatable this year.

I do believe there's a window of opportunity for Lopez and Ancic (and
lets not completely discount Hewitt) in Federer's half, and Gasquet,
Nalbandian (and maybe even Murray) in Roddick's half. The 2 players
most likely to capitalise are Ancic and Gasquet I think. Gasquet looks
more than capable of breaking the Roddick serve, whilst Ancic has the
power to back up his serve-volley again and really put the pressure on
Federer. I'm not confident enough on this to put a bet on it, but I
don't think its going to be Federer v Roddick in the final this year...

 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by BlackJA » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:44:10

even the likes of federer can't keep winning all the time by margins of
6-2 6-2 6-2

true champions can find a way to win when they are struggling

 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Pedro Dia » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:41:14

Convinced now? That was a hell of a finishing sprint to put the lid on
Kiefer.

 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by RoddickisaDic » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:45:36

yeah good matches what a backhand
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by coop-a-loo » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:44:33

It's rare for the top 2 seeds to meet in the final.  For the occurrence
to repeat itself, while I'd like to see it, might be wishful thinking.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Invisibl » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:48:30

Yes, but I still maintain that both players are playing rather sloppy,
and could well get punished for this by an Ancic, Lopez, Nalbandian or
Gasquet.  They're looking more beatable on grass than the last couple
of years, and I do think there's an opportunity there.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Eric » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:49:56

Quote:
> Convinced now? That was a hell of a finishing sprint to put the lid on
> Kiefer.

Federer did what he had to, but Kiefer did hand it to him a little bit.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Invisibl » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:50:06

Federer finished well against Kiefer, but Kiefer threw that set away
with a couple of very sloppy games after being a break up...Other
players may not be quite as charitable.  Both Fed and Rod need to step
things up for their next matches.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by jer?me lamir » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:51:59

Quote:

> Yes, but I still maintain that both players are playing rather sloppy,
> and could well get punished for this by an Ancic, Lopez, Nalbandian or
> Gasquet.  They're looking more beatable on grass than the last couple
> of years, and I do think there's an opportunity there.

Dunno about the other but I'm afraid it will be too much for Gasquet who
seems to be tired already.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by BlackJA » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:55:46

apparantly you haven't been watching true champions like federer,
sampras bouncing back fom a tough match. mind the words he'll be much
much sharper for his next match(es)'

Ancic can trouble Fed but beating Federer on grass something else
Lopez will lose next round
Nlabandian same

Gasquet is in my mind the only one that might stretch federer, if
richard gets to the final, which i doubt not of his abilities but his
physical shape, he must be really tired after playing so much and
winning almost everything. If he gets stretched over 5 sets he won't
get to the final. next year he can win it

 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by coop-a-loo » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:00:46

Gasquet has solid skills, great feel & instincts.  His serve is still a
question mark, but he has time to develop that.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Robert » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:04:46

Quote:

> Most pundits have been seeing the Roddick v Federer final as an
> inevitability, but having watched Roddick against Bracciali, and
> Federer now against Kiefer, I'm finding the two favourites far from
> convincing. Bracciali clearly showed that the Roddick serve isn't quite
> as invincible as we may once have thought, and perhaps, if he was a bit
> more experienced in 5 sets, there may have been an upset.

> Federer has been coasting through matches, but has been looking rather
> complacent, making rather a lot of unforced errors, and not really
> forcing the issue. Kiefer appears to be dictating a lot of points with
> Federer playing too defensive, and looking vulnerable to passing shots
> at the net (approach shots aren't looking his usual standard). I think
> he'll beat Kiefer, but I really think he's looking beatable this year.

> I do believe there's a window of opportunity for Lopez and Ancic (and
> lets not completely discount Hewitt) in Federer's half, and Gasquet,
> Nalbandian (and maybe even Murray) in Roddick's half. The 2 players
> most likely to capitalise are Ancic and Gasquet I think. Gasquet looks
> more than capable of breaking the Roddick serve, whilst Ancic has the
> power to back up his serve-volley again and really put the pressure on
> Federer. I'm not confident enough on this to put a bet on it, but I
> don't think its going to be Federer v Roddick in the final this year...

I agree with this, except I still think Fed will step up a gear or two
in the 2nd week. I picked Roddick to win the tournament, but now I'm
not so sure- his serve is looking quite breakable, and without his
serve working well, he's ***ed.

Federer I think is not playing as well due to loss of some confidence-
losing two slam SFs back-to-back must have done something to his
self-belief, and maybe we're seeing the result of that now. He looks a
bit tentative and is definitely making more errors than usual. However,
he is still the most likely winner of W, but my gut feeling prior to
the tournament started said Roddick.

 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Robert » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:08:41

Quote:

> Federer finished well against Kiefer, but Kiefer threw that set away
> with a couple of very sloppy games after being a break up...Other
> players may not be quite as charitable.  Both Fed and Rod need to step
> things up for their next matches.

This is also my perception- Fed can consider himself a little lucky to
not have to play a fifth set.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by Whispe » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:10:50

Quote:

> Most pundits have been seeing the Roddick v Federer final as an
> inevitability, but having watched Roddick against Bracciali, and
> Federer now against Kiefer, I'm finding the two favourites far from
> convincing. Bracciali clearly showed that the Roddick serve isn't quite
> as invincible as we may once have thought, and perhaps, if he was a bit
> more experienced in 5 sets, there may have been an upset.

Yes, but both guys shoulda won in straights - Fed blew that 2nd set t/b,
& Roddick shoulda wrapped up match in 3rd set t/b.

Quote:

> Federer has been coasting through matches, but has been looking rather
> complacent, making rather a lot of unforced errors, and not really
> forcing the issue. Kiefer appears to be dictating a lot of points with
> Federer playing too defensive, and looking vulnerable to passing shots
> at the net (approach shots aren't looking his usual standard). I think
> he'll beat Kiefer, but I really think he's looking beatable this year.

> I do believe there's a window of opportunity for Lopez and Ancic (and
> lets not completely discount Hewitt) in Federer's half, and Gasquet,
> Nalbandian (and maybe even Murray) in Roddick's half. The 2 players
> most likely to capitalise are Ancic and Gasquet I think. Gasquet looks
> more than capable of breaking the Roddick serve, whilst Ancic has the
> power to back up his serve-volley again and really put the pressure on
> Federer. I'm not confident enough on this to put a bet on it, but I
> don't think its going to be Federer v Roddick in the final this year...

Roddick-Ancic.
 
 
 

Not convinced with Federer and Roddick

Post by coop-a-loo » Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:11:10

RF & AR are huge favourites.  They are expected to just cruise and meet
again by virtually everyone.  There's pressure associated with that.
Opponents aren't just going to lay down for them.  Both guys will have
to earn their places in the final.