Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by grif » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:06:38


"
By CHRISTOPHER CLAREY
...
There is no doubt that the mens game has grown more physical. But this
has not led to older athletes breaking down earlier and ceding territory
to the prodigies.
...
I think the main thing is that there is more depth in the game every
year, more good players, so the competition is tougher, said Jarkko
Nieminen of Finland, another 30-year-old who won on Tuesday. Over all,
players are in very good shape, and obviously for a young junior, it
takes a few years to build up the fitness.

Craig Boynton, a veteran coach who works with the American John Isner,
said it was highly unlikely that a ***ager would be able to win a
Grand Slam in the future as phenoms like Bjorn Borg, Mats Wilander,
Michael Chang and Rafael Nadal had done.

Right now, what these older guys are doing is, if theres some weakness
in your game mentally or physically, it gets exposed, Boynton said.
And it just takes time to cover those holes in somebodys game. I would
be very surprised if someone young came through and had the moxie and
savvy to be able to compete with these older guys.
...
The older guys really own their shots for whatever reason, said Jay
Berger, a former top-10 player now involved in player development for
the United States Tennis Association. They are more skillful, and I
think also the technology of taking care of your body has improved.

Asked if Federer, now ranked third, was any slower at 30, Pierre
Paganini, his longtime fitness trainer, chuckled.

Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said. You also
cant forget that Roger has a quality of anticipation that is enormous.
In tennis, you dont only need to be fast. You need to run cleanly and
use speed intelligently, and Roger is very intelligent in this department.

But there does seem to be a limit to the fun. There was no mens player
older than 34 in this French Open, though Haas and 34-year-old Arnaud
Clment are both in the second round.

Its tougher to come up when you are really young, and I think its
very tough to stay when you are 35, Nieminen said. I do think there
will be some in this group who will be playing top 30 or 50 when they
are 35. If Roger stays healthy, for sure he will be top something when
hes 35.
http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by jdeluis » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:18:10


Quote:
> If Roger stays healthy, for sure he will be top something when
> hes 35.

Well, even I'm "top something" in the world of tennis. :)

 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by felange » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:43:36

Yeah. It's like we always say....he has only lost half a step. :))

 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by Pelle Svansl? » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:49:59


Quote:

> Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said.

Yup. First it was TT, Wilander and Svansl?s who said Rogi was playing

gone, the legs are gone, buu-huu!". The same scrolls justified the
inquisition against infedfidels who knew the earth is not flat.

Then Rogi himself said the same. Nothing changed. Then Sampras. He only
has 14 slams, what does he know.

Now Paganini, the guy who knows it best, confirms he is physically
peakiest peak. Duh, I doubt anything changes now either.

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Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by bob » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:15:08



Quote:
>Yeah. It's like we always say....he has only lost half a step. :))

coupled with his vastly greater experience and i'd presume smarts, and
like i said many times, fed 2005 = fed 2012 in absolute overall terms.

bob

 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by modul » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:28:34


Quote:

>> Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said.

> Yup. First it was TT, Wilander and Svansl?s who said Rogi was playing

> gone, the legs are gone, buu-huu!". The same scrolls justified the
> inquisition against infedfidels who knew the earth is not flat.

> Then Rogi himself said the same. Nothing changed. Then Sampras. He only
> has 14 slams, what does he know.

> Now Paganini, the guy who knows it best, confirms he is physically
> peakiest peak. Duh, I doubt anything changes now either.

Paganini meant to say 1/2 a step, but didn't want to embarass rog ;-)
 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by TT » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:29:55

30.5.2012 21:49, Pelle Svansl?s kirjoitti:

Quote:

>> Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said.

> Yup. First it was TT, Wilander and Svansl?s who said Rogi was playing

> gone, the legs are gone, buu-huu!". The same scrolls justified the
> inquisition against infedfidels who knew the earth is not flat.

> Then Rogi himself said the same. Nothing changed. Then Sampras. He only
> has 14 slams, what does he know.

> Now Paganini, the guy who knows it best, confirms he is physically
> peakiest peak. Duh, I doubt anything changes now either.

These guys, Pelle and TT... true tier 1 analysts. You should listen to them!
 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by TT » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:30:58

30.5.2012 21:18, jdeluise kirjoitti:

Quote:

>> If Roger stays healthy, for sure he will be top something when
>> hes 35.

> Well, even I'm "top something" in the world of tennis. :)

We start counting from bottom in your case.
 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by Joe Ramire » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 05:28:12


Quote:


> >> Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said.

> > Yup. First it was TT, Wilander and Svansl?s who said Rogi was playing

> > gone, the legs are gone, buu-huu!". The same scrolls justified the
> > inquisition against infedfidels who knew the earth is not flat.

> > Then Rogi himself said the same. Nothing changed. Then Sampras. He only
> > has 14 slams, what does he know.

> > Now Paganini, the guy who knows it best, confirms he is physically
> > peakiest peak. Duh, I doubt anything changes now either.

> Paganini meant to say 1/2 a step, but didn't want to embarass rog ;-)

The "step" blather is just a red herring. It's like asking Annacone
whether he thinks Federer can hit a first serve as fast today as he
could in 2005. "Sure, I don't think he's lost any mph on his serve; he
may be hitting 'em even harder!" What *should* be asked are questions
like, "Can Federer's body handle back-to-back tough matches as well as
it could when he was 23 or 24?" and "Is he now more or less likely
than in 2005 to be physically depleted after a stretch of best-of-five
matches in a two-week period?" and "How is his mental focus in
competition compared to the way it was seven or eight years ago?"
 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by drew » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:53:58


Quote:

> > Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said.

> Yup. First it was TT, Wilander and Svansl?s who said Rogi was playing
> better than ever.

So what?  You think you and TT have credibility?  TT the Federer hater
and you...
I think you're just ***ing crazy....anger issues or something.  I
don't know where the
*** you're coming from.

Wilander???  *** me, this is a guy with substance abuse problems who
can't get
anything right anymore.  You want to quote old champs who have lost it
physically and
mentally..or didn't have it mentally to begin with....just quote
Wilander, Borg, Sampras and
Kuerten.  Throw McEnroe in there too.  All guys with an agenda or no
brain or a good
combination of both.


Quote:
> gone, the legs are gone, buu-huu!".

Hardly true.  He's slower getting to the balls that are wide and he
doesn't quite
have the flexibility that he had.  As far as concentration and
consistency goes,
these are the first things to go.

Almost everybody who doesn't have an agenda will see this.

Quote:
> Then Rogi himself said the same. Nothing changed.

The player himself will be the last to see it, especially if he has
a healthy ego.

 Then Sampras. He only

Quote:
> has 14 slams, what does he know.

He has an agenda similar to the haters.  And even he he didn't, I
don't
think he's smart enough to know what he's seeing if he even watches
closely
at all.  And the latter I doubt.

Quote:

> Now Paganini, the guy who knows it best, confirms he is physically
> peakiest peak. Duh, I doubt anything changes now either.

The guy who knows it best???  Horseshit!  He's stroking himself as
much as
he's stroking Federer.

How about you just come to your own conclusions....or do you take a
poll before
you take a***just so you're sure your bladder really is full?

Nobody in tennis hasn't lost a little by the age of 30....nobody that
I've watched in
over 30 years who had the good fortune of even making it to 30.

 
 
 

Rogi's longtime fitness trainer: “I’m convinced that he has not lost a step,”

Post by ca1hou » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 05:52:21


Quote:
> "
> By CHRISTOPHER CLAREY
> ...
> There is no doubt that the mens game has grown more physical. But this
> has not led to older athletes breaking down earlier and ceding territory
> to the prodigies.
> ...
> I think the main thing is that there is more depth in the game every
> year, more good players, so the competition is tougher, said Jarkko
> Nieminen of Finland, another 30-year-old who won on Tuesday. Over all,
> players are in very good shape, and obviously for a young junior, it
> takes a few years to build up the fitness.

> Craig Boynton, a veteran coach who works with the American John Isner,
> said it was highly unlikely that a ***ager would be able to win a
> Grand Slam in the future as phenoms like Bjorn Borg, Mats Wilander,
> Michael Chang and Rafael Nadal had done.

> Right now, what these older guys are doing is, if theres some weakness
> in your game mentally or physically, it gets exposed, Boynton said.
> And it just takes time to cover those holes in somebodys game. I would
> be very surprised if someone young came through and had the moxie and
> savvy to be able to compete with these older guys.
> ...
> The older guys really own their shots for whatever reason, said Jay
> Berger, a former top-10 player now involved in player development for
> the United States Tennis Association. They are more skillful, and I
> think also the technology of taking care of your body has improved.

> Asked if Federer, now ranked third, was any slower at 30, Pierre
> Paganini, his longtime fitness trainer, chuckled.

> Im convinced that he has not lost a step, Paganini said. You also
> cant forget that Roger has a quality of anticipation that is enormous.
> In tennis, you dont only need to be fast. You need to run cleanly and
> use speed intelligently, and Roger is very intelligent in this department.

> But there does seem to be a limit to the fun. There was no mens player
> older than 34 in this French Open, though Haas and 34-year-old Arnaud
> Clment are both in the second round.

> Its tougher to come up when you are really young, and I think its
> very tough to stay when you are 35, Nieminen said. I do think there
> will be some in this group who will be playing top 30 or 50 when they
> are 35. If Roger stays healthy, for sure he will be top something when
> hes 35.http://SportToday.org/

Well he does get paid by federer so lying is part of it, federer
forehand is great but he used to hit it much flatter and would have
trouble Nadal much more