The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:01:21


The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a bad
call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the chair
umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out, Djokovic
challenged the umpire and was proved right by the replay, and
then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch Djokovic's
serve, the chair umpire did not give Djokovic the ace. After all
that... The linesmen made so many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges
were right six out of seven times.

The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should improve
upon that by giving the players some sort of reward for being
right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the offensive
official off of the court after a certain number of bad calls.

Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error margin
of the replay system, but a bad chair umpire call and six out of
seven bad lines calls sounds like somebody did not like Djokovic.

 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by Pedro Dia » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:39:32


Quote:
> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a bad
> call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the chair
> umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out, Djokovic
> challenged the umpire and was proved right by the replay, and
> then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch Djokovic's
> serve, the chair umpire did not give Djokovic the ace. After all
> that... The linesmen made so many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges
> were right six out of seven times.

> The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should improve
> upon that by giving the players some sort of reward for being
> right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the offensive
> official off of the court after a certain number of bad calls.

> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error margin
> of the replay system, but a bad chair umpire call and six out of
> seven bad lines calls sounds like somebody did not like Djokovic.

Actually, Djokovic is far and away the most successful player in terms
of challenges. I just thought that just meant he had good eyes, but
your suggestion that it just means everyone hates him is intriguing.

Insane, but oddly intriguing.

 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:43:15


Quote:

>> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a bad
>> call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the chair
>> umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out, Djokovic
>> challenged the umpire and was proved right by the replay, and
>> then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch Djokovic's
>> serve, the chair umpire did not give Djokovic the ace. After all
>> that... The linesmen made so many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges
>> were right six out of seven times.

>> The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should improve
>> upon that by giving the players some sort of reward for being
>> right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the offensive
>> official off of the court after a certain number of bad calls.

>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error margin
>> of the replay system, but a bad chair umpire call and six out of
>> seven bad lines calls sounds like somebody did not like Djokovic.
> your suggestion that it just means everyone hates him is
> intriguing. Insane, but oddly intriguing.

Your idea that everyone hates him is insane, not intriguing,
just a straw man.

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The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by David » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:07:09

Quote:

> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a bad
> call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the chair
> umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out, Djokovic
> challenged the umpire and was proved right by the replay, and
> then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch Djokovic's
> serve,

He did touch it, barely, not that that makes any difference.

Quote:
> the chair umpire did not give Djokovic the ace. After all
> that... The linesmen made so many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges
> were right six out of seven times.

> The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should improve
> upon that by giving the players some sort of reward for being
> right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the offensive
> official off of the court after a certain number of bad calls.

> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error margin
> of the replay system,

So, you naively accept the error margin given by the manufacturer. When did you
test it?
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:17:07

Quote:


>> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a
>> bad call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the
>> chair umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out,
>> Djokovic challenged the umpire and was proved right by the
>> replay, and then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch
>> Djokovic's serve,

> He did touch it, barely, not that that makes any difference.

The replay showed otherwise.

Quote:
>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>> margin of the replay system,

> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
> manufacturer. When did you test it?

And your point is...

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The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by David » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:22:38

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>>> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a
>>> bad call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the
>>> chair umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out,
>>> Djokovic challenged the umpire and was proved right by the
>>> replay, and then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch
>>> Djokovic's serve,

>> He did touch it, barely, not that that makes any difference.

> The replay showed otherwise.

>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>>> margin of the replay system,

>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

> And your point is...

It was a simple question.
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by Superdav » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:25:25



Quote:



>>>> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a
>>>> bad call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the
>>>> chair umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out,
>>>> Djokovic challenged the umpire and was proved right by the
>>>> replay, and then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch
>>>> Djokovic's serve,

>>> He did touch it, barely, not that that makes any difference.

>> The replay showed otherwise.

>>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>>>> margin of the replay system,

>>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

>> And your point is...

>It was a simple question.

rst is way too intellectual for simple questions so yours has been
forwarded to some aussie experts.
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:47:48

Quote:




>>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>>>> margin of the replay system,

>>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

>> And your point is...

> It was a simple question.

No... What I am wondering about is the part before the simple
question, about "na vely accepting the error margin". Or maybe that
was just drunken gibberish. No problem, just curious.
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by Pedro Dia » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:31:01


Quote:


> >> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a bad
> >> call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the chair
> >> umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out, Djokovic
> >> challenged the umpire and was proved right by the replay, and
> >> then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch Djokovic's
> >> serve, the chair umpire did not give Djokovic the ace. After all
> >> that... The linesmen made so many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges
> >> were right six out of seven times.

> >> The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should improve
> >> upon that by giving the players some sort of reward for being
> >> right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the offensive
> >> official off of the court after a certain number of bad calls.

> >> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error margin
> >> of the replay system, but a bad chair umpire call and six out of
> >> seven bad lines calls sounds like somebody did not like Djokovic.

> > your suggestion that it just means everyone hates him is
> > intriguing. Insane, but oddly intriguing.

> Your idea that everyone hates him is insane, not intriguing,
> just a straw man.

No, not so much: you suggest that the fact that he had several reviews
come out in his favor in this match means "somebody did not like
Djokovic". The fact that he has the best record in the ATP as far as
challenges go tells me that this happens in many matches, with many
officials. So, if we apply your nutty reasoning, we are left with many
officials "not liking" Djokovic.

Stands to (un)reason, sonny. Do keep up. By which I mean the
electroconvulsive therapy, obviously.

 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:05:53


Quote:



>> >> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made
>> >> a bad call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve,
>> >> the chair umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve
>> >> out, Djokovic challenged the umpire and was proved right by
>> >> the replay, and then, even though Roger Federer did not even
>> >> touch Djokovic's serve, the chair umpire did not give
>> >> Djokovic the ace. After all that... The linesmen made so
>> >> many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges were right six out of
>> >> seven times.

>> >> The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should
>> >> improve upon that by giving the players some sort of reward
>> >> for being right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the
>> >> offensive official off of the court after a certain number
>> >> of bad calls.

>> >> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>> >> margin of the replay system, but a bad chair umpire call and
>> >> six out of seven bad lines calls sounds like somebody did
>> >> not like Djokovic.

>> > your suggestion that it just means everyone hates him is
>> > intriguing. Insane, but oddly intriguing.

>> Your idea that everyone hates him is insane, not intriguing,
>> just a straw man.

> No, not so much:

Yes, precisely.

Quote:
> you suggest that the fact that he had several reviews come out
> in his favor in this match means "somebody did not like
> Djokovic".

You did okay up to that point, Nino, but the actual count was "six
out of seven".

Quote:
> The fact that he has the best record in the ATP as far as
> challenges go

Do you have a citation for that, Nino?

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> tells me that this happens in many matches, with many officials.

Speaking of someone who might need therapy... What do the voices
in your head sound like, Nino?

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> So, if we apply your nutty reasoning,

You misspelled "apply your reasoning to my silly assertions".

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> we are left with many officials "not liking" Djokovic.

And the voices in your head tell you that your concoction
translates into "everybody", Nino?

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> Stands to (un)reason, sonny. Do keep up. By which I mean the
> electroconvulsive therapy, obviously.

Your mother is my therapist, Nino, I never miss a session.

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The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by Professor X - Murray Will Come Back Stronger, Like Rocky, E.T, Jesus, Gandalf, The Terminator & Maximus Decimus Meridius » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:21:47


Quote:
> The officiating was lopsided. First... The chair umpire made a bad
> call. Apparently, Novak Djokovic made a good serve, the chair
> umpire overruled the noncall and called the serve out, Djokovic
> challenged the umpire and was proved right by the replay, and
> then, even though Roger Federer did not even touch Djokovic's
> serve, the chair umpire did not give Djokovic the ace. After all
> that... The linesmen made so many bad calls, Djokovic's challenges
> were right six out of seven times.

> The challenge system is working so well, maybe they should improve
> upon that by giving the players some sort of reward for being
> right so many times. Or maybe they should kick the offensive
> official off of the court after a certain number of bad calls.

> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error margin
> of the replay system, but a bad chair umpire call and six out of
> seven bad lines calls sounds like somebody did not like Djokovic.

the whole thing has been a fix for Federer from start to finish

(avoiding meeting Nadal in the SF's who would have torn fed a new-one)

 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by David » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:04:01

Quote:





>>>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>>>>> margin of the replay system,

>>>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>>>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

>>> And your point is...

>> It was a simple question.

> No... What I am wondering about is the part before the simple
> question, about "na vely accepting the error margin". Or maybe that
> was just drunken gibberish. No problem, just curious.

Have you not accepted the manufacturer's error margin? Really, you don't need a
degree in English literature to understand that question.
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:02:06

Quote:






>>>>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>>>>>> margin of the replay system,

>>>>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>>>>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

>>>> And your point is...

>>> It was a simple question.

>> No... What I am wondering about is the part before the simple
>> question, about "na vely accepting the error margin". Or maybe
>> that was just drunken gibberish. No problem, just curious.

> Have you not accepted the manufacturer's error margin?

Why does it matter? Would it be too low? Too high?
What is your point?
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by David » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:16:09

Quote:







>>>>>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the error
>>>>>>> margin of the replay system,

>>>>>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>>>>>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

>>>>> And your point is...

>>>> It was a simple question.

>>> No... What I am wondering about is the part before the simple
>>> question, about "na vely accepting the error margin". Or maybe
>>> that was just drunken gibberish. No problem, just curious.

>> Have you not accepted the manufacturer's error margin?

> Why does it matter? Would it be too low? Too high?
> What is your point?

My point is that you have no ***ing idea what the error margin is, but you
worship the system regardless.
 
 
 

The 2009 US Open officials intentionally made bad calls against Djokovic?

Post by John Do » Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:25:43

Quote:








>>>>>>>> Of course they are going to make bad calls, given the
>>>>>>>> error margin of the replay system,

>>>>>>> So, you naively accept the error margin given by the
>>>>>>> manufacturer. When did you test it?

>>>>>> And your point is...

>>>>> It was a simple question.

>>>> No... What I am wondering about is the part before the simple
>>>> question, about "na vely accepting the error margin". Or
>>>> maybe that was just drunken gibberish. No problem, just
>>>> curious.

>>> Have you not accepted the manufacturer's error margin?

>> Why does it matter? Would it be too low? Too high? What is your
>> point?

> My point is that you have no ***ing idea what the error margin
> is, but you worship the system regardless.

Now that wasn't so hard was it? You ***ing idiot.

Whether the system is very accurate or not, unless you are a
blind-as-a-bat Luddite, you should have noticed by now that the
challenge system has been working marvelously. No more screwing
around with arguments between linesmen or chair umpires. To me,
that is a major improvement. I sincerely think that Ilie Nastase
and John McEnroe would have gotten along well with the current
system if that had been possible at the time.