Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Globe10 » Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Yeesss! He's done it!

Edberg defeated Martin by the score of 5-7, 6-4, 6-2

This is the first time that Edberg has reached the semi's of a
tournament this year. This is turning out to be a good week for Edberg
and fine preparation for Wimbledon. A lot of credit goes to Tony
Pickard, IMO.

Anyways, WEll DOne EDberg!!

Samia

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Samir Bhak » Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:00:00

: Yeesss! He's done it!

: Edberg defeated Martin by the score of 5-7, 6-4, 6-2

: This is the first time that Edberg has reached the semi's of a
: tournament this year. This is turning out to be a good week for Edberg
: and fine preparation for Wimbledon. A lot of credit goes to Tony
: Pickard, IMO.

Pretty impressive stuff from Edberg, first beating Goran, then
Martin, both big hitters, on a fast surface.

- Samir

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Mei-Ling L » Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Yeesss! He's done it!
>Edberg defeated Martin by the score of 5-7, 6-4, 6-2
>This is the first time that Edberg has reached the semi's of a
>tournament this year.

Let's just say that the last time that Edberg reached SFs was in Scotsdale
in Mar. 1995.  I don't even remember any recent Saturday (other than
the first Sat. at Roland Garros this year) on which I had to check
tennis scores.  

Quote:
>This is turning out to be a good week for Edberg
>and fine preparation for Wimbledon. A lot of credit goes to Tony
>Pickard, IMO.

Without knowing more details, it's hard to judge.  But it sure is
a coincidence that no sooner than it was made known that the two
have been reunited than Edberg somehow managed to win one tough
match after another.  This is reminiscient of the 92 US Open, before
which the two had stopped traveling together. I clearly remember read-
ing reports which mentioned that Edberg's game improved immediately
as soon as they were traveling together for the Open.

Take today's match.  A while back, Edberg would have folded after
losing the first set at 5-7.  In fact, this morning I expected him
to lose the second at 2-6.  But perhaps Stefan took one look at
the steely gaze of the Silver Fox and shaped up??  Whatever.  I am
just DELIGHTED.

I think Stefan is pulling out all the stops this week in an attempt
to get seeded at Wimbledon.  He may have succeeded.

    M. Liu

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Mei-Ling L » Sun, 16 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Pretty impressive stuff from Edberg, first beating Goran, then
>Martin, both big hitters, on a fast surface.

And, today, #1 seed Thomas Muster succumbed.  Yes, folks, Mr. Edberg
is actually going to be in a final.  What a concept.  I can really
get used to this.  He will be there with his old buddy, Boris Becker.

Becker downed Ferreira in straight sets and has yet to lose a set in
this event (resting up during the FO sure does help).
Edberg actually lost the first set to Muster, in a tiebreak even (hard
to believe), but as in the last two games, he rallied back impressively.
I had an uneasy feeling about this match yesterday, knowing that Muster
had a lot of macho pride on the line and would dearly love to exact
a win from Edberg to erase that 0 (as in 8:0) in his head-to-head
record against Edberg.  No such luck, Thomas.  It just so happens
that Stefan has just got off that dreary role in "Down and Out on
the ATP" and is now starring in "The Prince of Serve-and-Volley",
just like old time.

Agasint Becker, Edberg will have a tough time.  Always does.  I
just assume that they don't exhaust each other unduly so close to
the Wimbledon.  I envy the folks at the Queen's Club.
   M. Liu

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Mei-Ling L » Mon, 17 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>And, today, #1 seed Thomas Muster succumbed.  Yes, folks, Mr. Edberg
>is actually going to be in a final.  What a concept.  I can really
>get used to this.  He will be there with his old buddy, Boris Becker.

>Agasint Becker, Edberg will have a tough time.  Always does.  I
>just assume that they don't exhaust each other unduly so close to
>the Wimbledon.  I envy the folks at the Queen's Club.

As expected, Edberg lost to Becker today in the final, in striaght
sets (6-4, 7-6(7-3)).  I salute Becker, but I am happy for the
good showing of Edberg and frankly would have liked for Stefan to
have won a title for the year.  Too bad it had to be Boris that he
ran into.

   M. Liu

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by shun.cheu » Mon, 17 Jun 1996 04:00:00

So the Queen's final will be Becker vs. Edberg. That is very interesting,
certainly a match for old timers.

I checked the records yesterday and was very surprised to find out that
Becker hasn't won a title on grass since the 1989 Wimbledon, almost
seven years ago. The opponent then, of course, was Edberg. Obviously,
the main reason for Becker's long drought on grass is that there are
simply very few grass court tournaments nowadays.

So one last time for Becker vs. Edberg? Becker has pretty much dominated
Edberg in their career match ups. Fortunately for Edberg, the 1988 and
1990 Wimbledon finals were exceptions.

Becker vs. Edberg: 24-10

1984  Cologne (hard) 1R             Edberg d. Becker         6-4,6-4
1985  Philadelphia (carpet) 2R      Edberg d. Becker         6-3,6-1
1985  Las Vegas (hard) 3R           Becker d. Edberg         6-3,6-7,6-2
1985  DC, Munich (hard)             Becker d. Edberg         6-3,3-6,7-5,8-6
1986  Dallas (carpet) SF            Becker d. Edberg         7-6,7-6,4-6,7-6
1986  Toronto (hard) F              Becker d. Edberg         6-4,3-6,6-3
1986  Tokyo Indoor (carpet) F       Becker d. Edberg         7-6,6-1
1986  Masters (carpet) SF           Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-4
1987  Indian Wells (hard) F         Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-4,7-5
1987  Canadian Open (hard) SF       Edberg d. Becker         6-2,6-4
1987  Cincinnati (hard) F           Edberg d. Becker         6-4,6-1
1988  Dallas (carpet) F             Becker d. Edberg         6-4,1-6,7-5,6-3
1988  Queens (grass) F              Becker d. Edberg         6-1,3-6,6-3
1988  Wimbledon (grass) F           Edberg d. Becker         4-6,7-6,6-4,6-2
1988  Masters (carpet) RR           Edberg d. Becker         7-6,3-6,6-4
1988  DC, Goteberg (clay)           Becker d. Edberg         6-3,6-1,6-4
1989  French Open (clay) SF         Edberg d. Becker         6-3,6-4,5-7,3-6,6-2
1989  Wimbledon (grass) F           Becker d. Edberg         6-0,7-6,6-4
1989  Paris Indoor (carpet) F       Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-3,6-3
1989  Masters (carpet) RR           Becker d. Edberg         6-1,6-4
1989  Masters (carpet) F            Edberg d. Becker         4-6,7-6,6-3,6-1
1989  DC, Stuttgart (carpet)        Becker d. Edberg         6-2,6-2,6-4
1990  Queens (grass) SF             Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-4
1990  Wimbledon (grass) F           Edberg d. Becker         6-2,6-2,3-6,3-6,6-4
1990  Sydney Indoor (hard) F        Becker d. Edberg         7-6,6-4,6-4
1990  Stockholm (carpet) F          Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-0,6-3
1990  Paris Indoor (carpet) F       Edberg d. Becker         3-3 retired
1991  Stockholm (carpet) F          Becker d. Edberg         3-6,6-4,1-6,6-2,6-2
1992  Brussels (carpet) SF          Becker d. Edberg         4-6,6-4,6-2
1992  Frankfurt (carpet) RR         Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-0
1993  Doha (hard) SF                Becker d. Edberg         6-4,6-4
1994  Frankfurt (carpet) RR         Becker d. Edberg         6-7,6-4,7-5
1995  Basel (hard) QF               Becker d. Edberg         6-4,3-6,6-3
1996  Doha (hard) 1R                Becker d. Edberg         6-2,7-5
1996  Queens (grass) F                   ???

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Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by WGoo » Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Yes, folks, Mr. Edberg is actually going to be in a final.
>What a concept. [...]
>I envy the folks at the Queen's Club.

Is this tourney not being televised anywhere in the Western Hemisphere?
This Final match between SE and Becker will really be one to see.  For all
of Becker's success against Stefan (24-10 overall), in their most
important matches (which I say [subjectively] are the 88-90 Wimbledon
Finals and 89 French semi), Stefan is 3 - 1.

Obviously, when all is said and done, the 1996 Stella Artois Championships
won't be making or breaking anyone's career.  But I'm thinking, that
giving the timing, location, and occasion of this meeting, that SE is
treating this final as something nearly as important as those other
momentous clashes.

I mean, geez, look at this SE quote [courtesy RTR News]  ``I'm playing
well, I'm eager, I'm hungry and I'm wanting to win very, very badly.''

Nearly akin to standing atop the Tower of London and shouting out a
challenge to all comers, methinks.

What am I trying to say??  I WANT TO SEE THIS MATCH!

Glenn Stone

Roebling, NJ

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Samir Bhak » Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:00:00


: >Yes, folks, Mr. Edberg is actually going to be in a final.
: >What a concept. [...]

: >I envy the folks at the Queen's Club.

: Is this tourney not being televised anywhere in the Western Hemisphere?
: This Final match between SE and Becker will really be one to see.  For all
--
If you get Prime network, you should see highlights of the tournament
on the ATP Weekly show. Check Chris Smith's homepage for the viewing
times.

- Samir

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Mei-Ling L » Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Is this tourney not being televised anywhere in the Western Hemisphere?
>This Final match between SE and Becker will really be one to see.  For all
>of Becker's success against Stefan (24-10 overall), in their most
>important matches (which I say [subjectively] are the 88-90 Wimbledon
>Finals and 89 French semi), Stefan is 3 - 1.

The Queen's matches were shown in Europe.  I will attach below a description
from a netter.  I do remember seeing the Sampras-Martin final a couple
years ago on Prime.   Is my memory faulty?  This year -- when it counts!
-- I don't see anything listed in the TV listing.  I think we are out
of luck.

Quote:
>I mean, geez, look at this SE quote [courtesy RTR News]  ``I'm playing
>well, I'm eager, I'm hungry and I'm wanting to win very, very badly.''
>Nearly akin to standing atop the Tower of London and shouting out a
>challenge to all comers, methinks.

That's the artless Edberg for you: He's like an open book in a way.
Becker was said to have practiced for hours before yesterday's match.
[see below]; Boris might have heard that remark.

Quote:

>What am I trying to say??  I WANT TO SEE THIS MATCH!

So do I.  Perhaps, just perhaps, we can wait for better things to come at
the Wimbledon.  

    M. Liu
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(From a European netter:)
I saw nearly the whole match against Muster. Of course it was two
super-contrasting styles on the court. It was amazing to see how well Muster had
managed to adapt his game to grass, though his style had not changed. Both men
played very well throughout the whole match and were eager to beat the other.
Muster was really delighted after having won the first set, but as the match
went on it became clear that he could not cope any longer with Edberg's
high-quality volleys, especially against the direction of movement: Muster did
not get the chance to play his own game. Edberg got several breakpoints in the
second set but did not manage to actually break serve until at 4-3. From that
moment I got the strong feeling he could not lose the match anymore, and though
Muster never gave up, as we know him, it was all in vain indeed.

After the match in what you could call a just-off-court interview, Edberg said
he had been surprised how well Muster had adapted his game to grass and that he
thought the guy *could* actually play on grass, having got some experience in
this year's or last year's Davis Cup tie against South Africa when he beat Wayne
Ferreira or Ondruska on grass (if I am not mistaken). We saw the nice guy we
know so well again when he paid tribute to Muster so much. He went on to say
that he thought he had played well, much better than he had done for months and
that all was well in the head again. The interviewer immediately asked what
exactly he meant by that and he commented that now he badly wanted to win on
court again, which had been different in the past few months (years).

After Becker's semifinal win against Wayne Ferreira, he was asked to comment on
the final on Sunday ("Your opponent is quite a familiar one, isn't he?") Becker
smiled and said: "You know, I wish we would meet in the final in three weeks. I
still trail him 1-2 in Wimbledon finals." He said he looked forward to the final
on Sunday.

In that final, for which Becker was said to have prepared for hours, trying to
get the concentration needed, both men played on a very high standard. In the
first set both men got to 15-40 in a service game of the other; Edberg, who got
his breakpoints first, could not convert them while Becker could, which was well
the only difference between them in the first set.

In the second set Edberg stepped up a gear and got several break points on
Becker's serve early in the set, but Becker was on his best then and Edberg
could not convert. When Edberg was 5-4 up he got to advantage in Becker's
service game but again he could not win the set point. Then he went on to lose
that game and in his next service game, you know what I mean, Mei-Ling, he got
that expression in his face that told me he was going to lose this service game.
So it went: he was broken to love. Somehow, however, he broke Becker back to
love to force the tiebreak. The crowd was ecstatic and all behind him. And then
he started with a double fault in the tiebreak. Then Becker went up 3-0 and 5-2
after which Edberg's resistance was broken and he lost the tiebreak.

Throughout the match Edberg played very very well but Becker just played
perfectly. I cannot recall one unforced error from Becker in the whole match. I
think Becker was very eager to win this match. I still feel, though, that Edberg
should have won the second set; he got more breakpoints than Becker did in that
set and Edberg's standard of playing would certainly have justified a deciding
third set. Edberg could equally well have won the match had he used the
opportunities he did get. I sometimes had the feeling he was just a bit too
eager to win, thereby sometimes committing unforced errors on important points.
And that's what Edberg himself commented after the match in a just-off-court
interview with both men standing next to each other. Edberg said particularly:
"I wish I could start again on that tiebreak in which I started with a double
fault, because then I gave him the opportunity to go three points up." He said
he felt he could be a threat at Wimbledon and that he would very much like to
play Becker in the Wimbledon final in three weeks. I would say: Sampras has been
warned. And it's true: *if* Edberg can maintain this level of play, both men are
serious contenders for the title...

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Globe10 » Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Let's just say that the last time that Edberg reached SFs was in
Scotsdale
>in Mar. 1995.  I don't even remember any recent Saturday (other than
>the first Sat. at Roland Garros this year) on which I had to check
>tennis scores.

Edberg did get to a final after March '95. It was at Washington, where he
lost to
Agassi. I think it was in late July.

Quote:
>I think Stefan is pulling out all the stops this week in an attempt
>to get seeded at Wimbledon.  He may have succeeded.

You're right. Regardless of the outcome in the final, Edberg's bound
to be in the Top 20 come Monday. I also read somewhere that Edberg
plans to play in Halle, Germany, next week. Another warm up
tournament for Wimbledon.

I don't know when the Wimbledon seeding committe has to decide
on their selection, but I assume Edberg wants to do well next week also.
This way there will be no doubt in their minds, as to whether
to seed him or not.

Quote:
>>This is turning out to be a good week for Edberg
>>and fine preparation for Wimbledon. A lot of credit goes to Tony
>>Pickard.  
>Without knowing more details, it's hard to judge.  But it sure is
>a coincidence that no sooner than it was made known that the two
>have been reunited than Edberg somehow managed to win one tough
>match after another.

If nothing else, it's the m***support that Edberg receives from
Pickard during his matches, that makes him perform so well, IMO.

Samia

 
 
 

Edberg-Martin SPOILER

Post by Globe10 » Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Agasint Becker, Edberg will have a tough time.  Always does.  I
>just assume that they don't exhaust each other unduly so close to
>the Wimbledon.  I envy the folks at the Queen's Club.

So far Edberg's game has held up pretty well against the other top,
grass court players, namely, Ivanisevic and Martin. Now, he has one
more test to pass. This should be one, interesting match.  Edberg will
be pumped up for this match, I bet. I can't wait for the ATP Tour
Magazine Program to show highlights of this tournament.

Samia