Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by arnab. » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:26:57


Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Calimer » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:28:53


Quote:
> Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

> I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

I think he needs to score those extra confidence points at this point
in his career.

Max

 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Ulysse » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:34:45


Quote:

> > Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

> > I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

> I think he needs to score those extra confidence points at this point
> in his career.

> Max

Win or lose tomorrow, Fed will retain the #1 ranking for at least the
next three weeks. He's getting close to 300 weeks now. That's another
of his records which will almost surely never be broken.

I don't think the outcome matters in terms of confidence going into
the Open. Even if Nova trounces Fed, it's a tune up and Fed is 31, he
is supposed to lose to a top player in his absolute prime. In any
case, he'll be ready for the USO.

 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Care » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:37:16


Quote:


> > > Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

> > > I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

> > I think he needs to score those extra confidence points at this point
> > in his career.

> > Max

> Win or lose tomorrow, Fed will retain the #1 ranking for at least the
> next three weeks. He's getting close to 300 weeks now. That's another
> of his records which will almost surely never be broken.

> I don't think the outcome matters in terms of confidence going into
> the Open. Even if Nova trounces Fed, it's a tune up and Fed is 31, he
> is supposed to lose to a top player in his absolute prime. In any
> case, he'll be ready for the USO.

Agree.
 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Court_ » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:53:59


Quote:
> Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

> I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

I don't think it really matters. I think Djokovic will be the slight
favorite for the USO regardless of what happens in Cincy. Djokovic is
the better HC player at this point in their careers. When was the last
time Roger defeated Djokovic in an outdoor HC tournament? I think it
was in 2010. I don't expect Roger to win Cincy or the USO this year
but if it happens it will be gravy for me (still thrilled about the
Wimbledon win and getting the number one ranking back.)
 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by kaennorsin » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:05:40


Quote:

> > Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

> > I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

> I don't think it really matters. I think Djokovic will be the slight
> favorite for the USO regardless of what happens in Cincy. Djokovic is
> the better HC player at this point in their careers. When was the last
> time Roger defeated Djokovic in an outdoor HC tournament? I think it
> was in 2010. I don't expect Roger to win Cincy or the USO this year
> but if it happens it will be gravy for me (still thrilled about the
> Wimbledon win and getting the number one ranking back.)

Fed has a real good chance tomorrow, with his current form, though I
agree Djok will still be favorite for the USO though, regardless of
the outcome tomorrow.
 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Gracchu » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:08:28


Quote:
> Fed has a real good chance tomorrow, with his current form, though I
> agree Djok will still be favorite for the USO though, regardless of
> the outcome tomorrow.

Federer's comments:

I guess it will be helpful to win, Federer said. But then again,
its not going to decide the outcome of the U.S. Open. Were on
opposite sides of the draw at the U.S. Open and might not even play
each other.

So there you have it. But Im going to try my best.

Translation: "I'll put the effort in to beat him if he's not playing
well, but if he's in top form, I'll tank and save my energy for the
U.S. Open."

 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by phamquangt.. » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:47:04

Quote:


> > Fed has a real good chance tomorrow, with his current form, though I

> > agree Djok will still be favorite for the USO though, regardless of

> > the outcome tomorrow.

> Federer's comments:

> I guess it will be helpful to win, Federer said. But then again,

> its not going to decide the outcome of the U.S. Open. Were on

> opposite sides of the draw at the U.S. Open and might not even play

> each other.

> So there you have it. But Im going to try my best.

> Translation: "I'll put the effort in to beat him if he's not playing

> well, but if he's in top form, I'll tank and save my energy for the

> U.S. Open."

He won't tank, but with so little at stake (funny to say that about a Masters final!) he will try different agressive tactics to see what works and what doesn't, which will come in handy for the USO final. He'll either win quickly or (more likely) lose quickly.
 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Vari L. Cinick » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:45:29


Quote:

> > Fed has a real good chance tomorrow, with his current form, though I
> > agree Djok will still be favorite for the USO though, regardless of
> > the outcome tomorrow.

> Federer's comments:

> I guess it will be helpful to win, Federer said. But then again,
> its not going to decide the outcome of the U.S. Open. Were on
> opposite sides of the draw at the U.S. Open and might not even play
> each other.

> So there you have it. But Im going to try my best.

> Translation: "I'll put the effort in to beat him if he's not playing
> well, but if he's in top form, I'll tank and save my energy for the
> U.S. Open."

Got to see if Federer's aggressive returns work against Mr. Elastic.
That and defending his forehand corner will be keys to the match.

Djokovic has looked very calm so far -- all "I don't think you can get
the ball by me but I can get it by you!"

 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by felange » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:08:26

Quote:
> Got to see if Federer's aggressive returns work against Mr. Elastic.

It should come as no surprise whoever wins tomorrow. The younger man is the
*** HC player over the past two years....in his peak. Fed older, but
having a great season, no.1 full of confidence, knows he can beat Nole if he
plays well....and noteably hasn't lost to Nole on fast HC over 3 sets since
Basel 2009...and you can include both US Open defeats in that, as Fed won
the best of the first 3 sets of those both times.

Both players will be going big for the lines....could be v.good could be
scrappy. It would have been better if Nole was able to wrestle back the no.1
by winning. :)

 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by Dave Hazelwoo » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:15:04

On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT), Court_1

Quote:


>> Fed has got his required match play on the fast-ish HC this week. Does winning or losing the Cincy final against Djokovic matter at this point ?

>> I don't think it does. Fed doesn't need to score extra confidence points against Djok in pre-slam tuneups at this point in his career.

>I don't think it really matters. I think Djokovic will be the slight
>favorite for the USO regardless of what happens in Cincy. Djokovic is
>the better HC player at this point in their careers. When was the last
>time Roger defeated Djokovic in an outdoor HC tournament? I think it
>was in 2010. I don't expect Roger to win Cincy or the USO this year
>but if it happens it will be gravy for me (still thrilled about the
>Wimbledon win and getting the number one ranking back.)

yeah sure while picking rafa all the way.
 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by RaspingDriv » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:17:49


Quote:
> > Got to see if Federer's aggressive returns work against Mr. Elastic.

> It should come as no surprise whoever wins tomorrow. The younger man is the
> *** HC player over the past two years....in his peak. Fed older, but
> having a great season, no.1 full of confidence, knows he can beat Nole if he
> plays well....and noteably hasn't lost to Nole on fast HC over 3 sets since
> Basel 2009...and you can include both US Open defeats in that, as Fed won
> the best of the first 3 sets of those both times.

Dubai 2011? Novak beat Fed in straight sets?
 
 
 

Is Cincy 2012 final going to be any precursor for USO 2012 for Federer?

Post by TennisGu » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:57:53


Quote:
> Translation: "I'll put the effort in to beat him if he's not playing
> well, but if he's in top form, I'll tank and save my energy for the
> U.S. Open."

 That is un-frickin' believable!
That is exactly what I said earlier.  :)