Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Ge » Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:00:00


Had a little bad experience while watching the Graf/McNeil match at
Philly today.  I'm wondering if this happens a lot since I saw a
little bit of it at the US Open too.

I showed up with friends at 12:30 and watched McNeil/Sukova practice
for a while.  3 of my friends got seats in front of me so I'm the only
one right behind them.  This old lady (60+) came to my row and said
to me "These 4 seats are all reserved, you'll have to leave soon" in
a snotty way with her nose turned up.  She was obviously kinda rich
by gaudy crappy jewelries she has on and ovver-make-uped face.  I told
her I have the ticket for the seat and she asked me if I was sure.
I said yes and she looked like she didn't believe me and looked over
at me several times before the match started.  

Right before the match started, her husband with a "Official" tag around
his neck joined her and she demanded to go get lunch because she's hungry
and this is right when Graf/McNeil were warming up for the match.

She came back later during the first set and again, asked me if I had
the correct ticket since the row was pretty crowded already and there
were only 2 open seats left for her and her husband.  I shouted back
at her "YES" and I shouted at her if SHE has the correct tickets.  She
looked a little shocked and answered yes and shut up for the rest of the
match.  And that's because SHE SLEPT THROUGH 90% of the match!  Toward
the end of the 3rd set (high quality tennis by the way :) ), she woke
up and her CellPhone ranged while the players were playing and she just
chatted away.

I was going to let her have it if she ask me if I had the right ticket
again!  My friends' been gonig for the past 3 nights and they said a
lot of the old ladies just show up and start gossiping about their
lives LOUDLY and not paying attention to the match.

I'm not prejudice against old ladies at tennis matches, but why do they
bother showing up if they're not going to watch the game?  One lady was
explaining to another about "Graf's tired... she needs 6 games to win?
(a set)", then she went on gossiping about people at the local country
club and such... loudly of course.

Just venting I guess.  Anybody have similar experience?

GL

 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by c.. » Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>Had a little bad experience while watching the Graf/McNeil match at
>Philly today.  I'm wondering if this happens a lot since I saw a
>little bit of it at the US Open too.

>I showed up with friends at 12:30 and watched McNeil/Sukova practice
>for a while.  3 of my friends got seats in front of me so I'm the only
>one right behind them.  This old lady (60+) came to my row and said
>to me "These 4 seats are all reserved, you'll have to leave soon" in
>a snotty way with her nose turned up.  She was obviously kinda rich
>by gaudy crappy jewelries she has on and ovver-make-uped face.  I told
>her I have the ticket for the seat and she asked me if I was sure.
>I said yes and she looked like she didn't believe me and looked over
>at me several times before the match started.

>Right before the match started, her husband with a "Official" tag around
>his neck joined her and she demanded to go get lunch because she's hungry
>and this is right when Graf/McNeil were warming up for the match.

>She came back later during the first set and again, asked me if I had
>the correct ticket since the row was pretty crowded already and there
>were only 2 open seats left for her and her husband.  I shouted back
>at her "YES" and I shouted at her if SHE has the correct tickets.  She
>looked a little shocked and answered yes and shut up for the rest of the
>match.  And that's because SHE SLEPT THROUGH 90% of the match!  Toward
>the end of the 3rd set (high quality tennis by the way :) ), she woke
>up and her CellPhone ranged while the players were playing and she just
>chatted away.

>I was going to let her have it if she ask me if I had the right ticket
>again!  My friends' been gonig for the past 3 nights and they said a
>lot of the old ladies just show up and start gossiping about their
>lives LOUDLY and not paying attention to the match.

>I'm not prejudice against old ladies at tennis matches, but why do they
>bother showing up if they're not going to watch the game?  One lady was
>explaining to another about "Graf's tired... she needs 6 games to win?
>(a set)", then she went on gossiping about people at the local country
>club and such... loudly of course.

>Just venting I guess.  Anybody have similar experience?

>GL

>BEEN THERE!!!!  i had box-seats (NOT rich :) ) but the box behind

me i'll call it the "chatter-box seats" i swear EVERY  person that
sat there talked alllll night and it wasnt ONLY elderly people!
i agree... it's all a social sceen for a lot of them... i heard
everything from soup to bleaching of mustaches! HONEST!!!!!


 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Craig Harvey Appelba » Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:00:00

: Had a little bad experience while watching the Graf/McNeil match at
: Philly today.  I'm wondering if this happens a lot since I saw a
: little bit of it at the US Open too.

: I showed up with friends at 12:30 and watched McNeil/Sukova practice
: for a while.  3 of my friends got seats in front of me so I'm the only
: one right behind them.  This old lady (60+) came to my row and said
: to me "These 4 seats are all reserved, you'll have to leave soon" in
: a snotty way with her nose turned up.  She was obviously kinda rich
: by gaudy crappy jewelries she has on and ovver-make-uped face.  I told
: her I have the ticket for the seat and she asked me if I was sure.
: I said yes and she looked like she didn't believe me and looked over
: at me several times before the match started.  

: Right before the match started, her husband with a "Official" tag around
: his neck joined her and she demanded to go get lunch because she's hungry
: and this is right when Graf/McNeil were warming up for the match.

: She came back later during the first set and again, asked me if I had
: the correct ticket since the row was pretty crowded already and there
: were only 2 open seats left for her and her husband.  I shouted back
: at her "YES" and I shouted at her if SHE has the correct tickets.  She
: looked a little shocked and answered yes and shut up for the rest of the
: match.  And that's because SHE SLEPT THROUGH 90% of the match!  Toward
: the end of the 3rd set (high quality tennis by the way :) ), she woke
: up and her CellPhone ranged while the players were playing and she just
: chatted away.

: I was going to let her have it if she ask me if I had the right ticket
: again!  My friends' been gonig for the past 3 nights and they said a
: lot of the old ladies just show up and start gossiping about their
: lives LOUDLY and not paying attention to the match.

: I'm not prejudice against old ladies at tennis matches, but why do they
: bother showing up if they're not going to watch the game?  One lady was
: explaining to another about "Graf's tired... she needs 6 games to win?
: (a set)", then she went on gossiping about people at the local country

: Just venting I guess.  Anybody have similar experience?

: GL

yes, i agree completely...there did seem to be a bunch of overly-made up
elderly ladies who gossiped away, but your generalization is a bit
unfair, as i took in the sabatini-huber, martinez-mcneil and
garrison-spirlea QFs and believe me i sat near a bunch of these elderly
women who were into the matches more than i was, cheering and applauding
points and seeming pretty knowledgable about the game...so maybe it's just
the rich, bored, lots-o-make-up women who came because they have nothing
else to do and their husbands companies had box seats anyway....

 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Photopro » Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Oh yeah, been there, done that!  But at Hilton Head & Amelia Island
(resorts that seem to bring out lots of old ladies from "the club").

This year at HH while I was shooting a practice session of Gigi, Conchita
& Arantxa I couldn't tell you how many of these women interrupted me to
ask me "is that Gabriela?(of Conchita) & who is that? (of Arantxa who
happened to be #1 in the world at the time) They also asked who is that
pretty young girl? (Gigi, the #1 doubles player in the world)  Oh, I play
doubles at the club."  Duh.  When I was zooming in on a great close-up of
Gigi running towards me I was again tapped on the shoulder & asked "is
that German girl here this year? (no, Steffi isn't here this year & thank
you so very much for ruining this great photo. BTW, buy a draw sheet."
When Gabriela finished her practice session (cut to 20 minutes because she
was ill) she was literally mobbed for autographs by these older women.
Gaby looked like hell but tried to sign a few out of kindness even with
people actually pulling her clothes & grabbing her! One of the women
called Gaby a *** (yes!) because they didn't get one! They then
proceeded to have a conversation over how these upity professionals are so
unappreciative of their fans!!! These women didn't even recognize Gaby
until someone yelled "there's Gaby" right in front of them. If I heard
them say "the club gave me or my husbands boss gave us these free tickets"
one more time... These people have NO respect for true fans who pay big
money for ***seats or working professionals trying to do their job!
They are loud, obnoxious, talk thru matchs about Aunt Gert or that lazy
no-good gardner or what they are serving in the lounge to gossip about the
pro at their club. I guess they do enjoy a day out on the town, tho  And
drink.  Man, they keep those tourney bars in business don't they?!  I
always wondered why they were there.  Now I know.  These women do like to
spend money... And that's what it's all about, folks!

 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Mark Squir » Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:00:00

I'm sick and tired of the etiquette at matches.  The gossip part is a key
irritant, esp. in a sparsely populated stadium like this was.  THey NEVER
seem to shut up.  They should stay home and chat there; obviously they're
not interested in tennis. And then there's the babies. Tiny stadium,
almost empty, squalling 8 month old. Very clever.  
-

http://pages.prodigy.com/PA/Philadelphia/society/society.html
 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Barbara Vigori » Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
>Had a little bad experience while watching the Graf/McNeil match
at
>Philly today.  I'm wondering if this happens a lot since I saw a
>little bit of it at the US Open too.

>I showed up with friends at 12:30 and watched McNeil/Sukova
practice
>for a while.  3 of my friends got seats in front of me so I'm the
only
>one right behind them.  This old lady (60+) came to my row and
said
>to me "These 4 seats are all reserved, you'll have to leave soon"
in
>a snotty way with her nose turned up.  She was obviously kinda
rich
>by gaudy crappy jewelries she has on and ovver-make-uped face.  I
told
>her I have the ticket for the seat and she asked me if I was
sure.
>I said yes and she looked like she didn't believe me and looked
over
>at me several times before the match started.  

>Right before the match started, her husband with a "Official" tag
around
>his neck joined her and she demanded to go get lunch because
she's hungry
>and this is right when Graf/McNeil were warming up for the match.

>She came back later during the first set and again, asked me if I
had
>the correct ticket since the row was pretty crowded already and
there
>were only 2 open seats left for her and her husband.  I shouted
back
>at her "YES" and I shouted at her if SHE has the correct tickets.
 She
>looked a little shocked and answered yes and shut up for the rest
of the
>match.  And that's because SHE SLEPT THROUGH 90% of the match!  
Toward
>the end of the 3rd set (high quality tennis by the way :) ), she
woke
>up and her CellPhone ranged while the players were playing and
she just
>chatted away.

>I was going to let her have it if she ask me if I had the right
ticket
>again!  My friends' been gonig for the past 3 nights and they
said a
>lot of the old ladies just show up and start gossiping about
their
>lives LOUDLY and not paying attention to the match.

>I'm not prejudice against old ladies at tennis matches, but why
do they
>bother showing up if they're not going to watch the game?  One
lady was
>explaining to another about "Graf's tired... she needs 6 games to
win?
>(a set)", then she went on gossiping about people at the local
country
>club and such... loudly of course.

>Just venting I guess.  Anybody have similar experience?

>GL

As an almost 60 avid tennis fan, I must respond to this letter.  
It is true that people who get box seats for free are not as
interested in the game as those of us who love it and follow it
closely.  However, it is not fair to say that it is just a bunch
of overly made-up rich women who are guilty of this transgression.
 I have been annoyed by both men and women of every age who are
definitely not there to see the matches.  Until the tournaments
stop selling out the box seats to big corporations long before the
events take place, this problem will never be solved.
 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Woody J » Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>As an almost 60 avid tennis fan,

Wow !  Do you still play tennis ?   I am still wondering until
when I will be able to play tennis.  Some of my friends told me
that I should switch to golf, since you cannot really play tennis
whey you are old.

Quote:
>I must respond to this letter.  
>It is true that people who get box seats for free are not as
>interested in the game as those of us who love it and follow it
>closely.  However, it is not fair to say that it is just a bunch
>of overly made-up rich women who are guilty of this transgression.
> I have been annoyed by both men and women of every age who are
>definitely not there to see the matches.  Until the tournaments
>stop selling out the box seats to big corporations long before the
>events take place, this problem will never be solved.

This is a good point.  I wasn't aware that this was happening.

Thanks.

--
Woody

 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by c.. » Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:



>>As an almost 60 avid tennis fan,

>Wow !  Do you still play tennis ?   I am still wondering until
>when I will be able to play tennis.  Some of my friends told me
>that I should switch to golf, since you cannot really play tennis
>whey you are old.

>>I must respond to this letter.
>>It is true that people who get box seats for free are not as
>>interested in the game as those of us who love it and follow it
>>closely.  However, it is not fair to say that it is just a bunch
>>of overly made-up rich women who are guilty of this transgression.
>> I have been annoyed by both men and women of every age who are
>>definitely not there to see the matches.  Until the tournaments
>>stop selling out the box seats to big corporations long before the
>>events take place, this problem will never be solved.

>This is a good point.  I wasn't aware that this was happening.

>Thanks.

>--
>Woody
>NO - the box seats are NOT sold out long before the event takes

place, and *i* am proof of that..... i am *NOT* rich but save
all year to get a box seat.... just get in touch with img a few
months before the tournament for a brochure of seating options...
if you purchase a box-seat you'll get all the information automatically
sent to you for the following year....
cheryl

 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by My friend and you » Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:00:00



* >>
* >As an almost 60 avid tennis fan,
*
* Wow !  Do you still play tennis ?   I am still wondering until
* when I will be able to play tennis.  Some of my friends told me
* that I should switch to golf, since you cannot really play tennis
* whey you are old.

Yes.  Why *don't* you switch to golf? ;)

Seriously, though, I played this summer with a group of gentlemen,
the youngest of whom was 69 and the oldest who was 83.  They were
out at 7:00a every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, weather permitting,
and they were competetive.

One guy, 72 as I recall, had *quite* a hard serve--and could run
down most balls hit within 10-12 feet of him.

These guys had a wealth of experience, as well, since the least
number of years that any one of them had been playing was something
like 30 years.  Those guys were *cagey*!

Not a wood racquet in the bunch, I might add.  After tennis, we'd
go grab a bite to eat at Denny's.

It was inspiring.  Well, the trip to Denny's wasn't all that great,
but that they were out there swingin' at 80+ years old was terrific.

Richard

--
"You have no idea how obnoxious resolute jolliness can be in the wrong
 circumstances.  It sends a message that you live in a little bubble of
 self-regard that is impenetrable to mortal men.  That's a good thing."
                -Stanley Bing, _Seven Habits of Highly Obnoxious People_

 
 
 

Bad experience at Philly's Graf-McNeil Match

Post by Kirk Lea » Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:00:00

On Nov 17, 1995 04:07:41 in article <Old tennis players never die (Was: Bad

Quote:



>* >>
>* >As an almost 60 avid tennis fan,  
>*  
>* Wow !  Do you still play tennis ?   I am still wondering until
>* when I will be able to play tennis.  Some of my friends told me
>* that I should switch to golf, since you cannot really play tennis
>* whey you are old.  

>Yes.  Why *don't* you switch to golf? ;)

>Seriously, though, I played this summer with a group of gentlemen,
>the youngest of whom was 69 and the oldest who was 83.  They were
>out at 7:00a every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, weather permitting,
>and they were competetive.

>One guy, 72 as I recall, had *quite* a hard serve--and could run  
>down most balls hit within 10-12 feet of him.

>These guys had a wealth of experience, as well, since the least  
>number of years that any one of them had been playing was something
>like 30 years.  Those guys were *cagey*!  

>Not a wood racquet in the bunch, I might add.  After tennis, we'd
>go grab a bite to eat at Denny's.  

>It was inspiring.  Well, the trip to Denny's wasn't all that great,
>but that they were out there swingin' at 80+ years old was terrific.  

>Richard

>--  
>"You have no idea how obnoxious resolute jolliness can be in the wrong  
>circumstances.  It sends a message that you live in a little bubble of
>self-regard that is impenetrable to mortal men.  That's a good thing."
>            -Stanley Bing, _Seven Habits of Highly Obnoxious People_

I'm a 4.0 player, and my friend's 72 year-old father can beat me.  There is
no age limit on good tennis.