Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by Marcus Holmes (Brookline HS » Sat, 08 Oct 1994 09:39:45



Quote:

>     To me, Chang has a game that is suited to a medium-paced court.  Chang
>has never played the kind of defensive game that Wilander played earlier in
>his career or Nystrom played.   Even in the French Open win, when Chang
>first came to notice, he played a reasonably aggresive baseline game, though
>not with the power of Courier or Agassi.    So, a slow surface might hurt Chang
>where he can't put the ball away.   He needs a little speed from the surface
>so that he can deal use it to add a little pace to his game.   I also think
>that Chang probably likes to face serve and volleyers who often have
>a harder time getting through on clay courts, but get through on the
>hard courts.    Perhaps footing does play a role since Chang relies
>on his anticipation and speed to get to shots.

>    In addition, sometimes I wonder how consistent Chang really is.
>Because he grew up on the hard courts, I'm sure he feels that to win,
>he needs to be aggressive, even if that doesn't always mean hitting
>winners from the backcourt.   Chang may not be all that conditioned
>to getting the ball back, yet another time, and he doesn't hit with
>the severe topspin that a Brugera does.   Chang hits with spin, but
>it is a bit flatter.   Chang lapses every once in a while where he is
>hitting a spate of errors.   It's only because we've seen some incredible
>comebacks that we think he is this rock of consistency.   He has an unusual
>game.   Lacking enough consistency to play on the really slow courts,
>and lacking enough power to deal with the faster courts.   However, he
>does appear to be trying to gain more on power.   We'll see if it's enough
>this year.

>--
>Charles Lin


I think this is true,, although Chang has proven to everyone that he does
have what it takes to perform well on all serfaces...

I was just wondering if anybody out there in the world of the Internet has
Pete Samnpras's mailing address.. Thanks alot!!!

Marcus



 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by Robert L » Tue, 11 Oct 1994 07:24:07



: >
: >  
: >     To me, Chang has a game that is suited to a medium-paced court.  Chang
: >has never played the kind of defensive game that Wilander played earlier in
: >his career or Nystrom played.   Even in the French Open win, when Chang
: >first came to notice, he played a reasonably aggresive baseline game, though
: >not with the power of Courier or Agassi.    So, a slow surface might hurt Chang
: >where he can't put the ball away.   He needs a little speed from the surface
: >so that he can deal use it to add a little pace to his game.   I also think
: >that Chang probably likes to face serve and volleyers who often have
: >a harder time getting through on clay courts, but get through on the
: >hard courts.    Perhaps footing does play a role since Chang relies
: >on his anticipation and speed to get to shots.
: >
: >    In addition, sometimes I wonder how consistent Chang really is.
: >Because he grew up on the hard courts, I'm sure he feels that to win,
: >he needs to be aggressive, even if that doesn't always mean hitting
: >winners from the backcourt.   Chang may not be all that conditioned
: >to getting the ball back, yet another time, and he doesn't hit with
: >the severe topspin that a Brugera does.   Chang hits with spin, but
: >it is a bit flatter.   Chang lapses every once in a while where he is
: >hitting a spate of errors.   It's only because we've seen some incredible
: >comebacks that we think he is this rock of consistency.   He has an unusual
: >game.   Lacking enough consistency to play on the really slow courts,
: >and lacking enough power to deal with the faster courts.   However, he
: >does appear to be trying to gain more on power.   We'll see if it's enough
: >this year.
: >
: >--
: >Charles Lin

: >

What are you talking about?  Chang not a consistent player?  Give me a
break.  To remain in the top ten like Chang has done for the past few
years you have to be very consistent.  Just because he hasn't won a slam
since the '89 French doesn't mean he can't win consistently.  Chang has
what it takes to win a U.S. Open.  In fact, it could have easily been him
in the final instead of Agassi.  Chang deserves a little more credit in
the consistency department.

Bobby Lee
University of Alberta

 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by Charles L » Tue, 11 Oct 1994 08:30:12

Quote:

>What are you talking about?  Chang not a consistent player?  Give me a
>break.  To remain in the top ten like Chang has done for the past few
>years you have to be very consistent.  Just because he hasn't won a slam
>since the '89 French doesn't mean he can't win consistently.  Chang has
>what it takes to win a U.S. Open.  In fact, it could have easily been him
>in the final instead of Agassi.  Chang deserves a little more credit in
>the consistency department.

    I wasn't referring to that kind of consistency.   I am referring
to how many times he can get the ball back before missing.  While
Chang can get into rallies of ten to fif*** shots, he's not like
Brugera, who is practically a wall from the backcourt.   Chang
has difficulties, in my opinion, on clay (red clay) that is,
because even though he generates more pace as of late, it's
not as effective on clay, though it is more effective on hard
courts.  

    The kind of consistency you are referring to is consistency
in results.   Hence, I would have said that McEnroe was not
terribly consistent in the backcourt, but had consistent
results.   Chang usually wins a couple of titles each
year.  This year has been pretty good for him.   He's won
some five titles.   In that sense, he's been pretty consistent.
It's tough for most players to stay in the top ten, who
are not in the top three.

    I think Chang may be a player who may suffer a bit as
the years go by because he relies on speed.   It's probably
a good thing that he is going to more pace, but he needs
to hit more consistently at that harder pace.  Mixing
things up is also a good idea.

--
Charles Lin


 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by RAKD » Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:08:01


Quote:
(Robert Lee) writes:

Chang is the only player on tour to get absolutely every ounce of game he
has out of what hes got.Nuff said.
 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by The S » Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:49:28


Quote:
|> (Robert Lee) writes:

|>
|> Chang is the only player on tour to get absolutely every ounce of game he
|> has out of what hes got.Nuff said.

A similar statement can be made about Jimmy Connors.
Also about Agassi when he's in shape and Courier when he's in
an enthusiastic mood.

JL

 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by RAKD » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 01:13:01


Quote:
(The Spy) writes:

I agree about Connors,but he is not currently on tour.Also,the fact that
Courier is very unstable mentally and emotionally means that he doesn't
get close to realizing his full potential.To me,the mental aspects to the
game are even MORE important than the physical ones when your talking
about players of such a high level of ability,ability that nears
perfection in some cases. Chang NEVER has mental lapses and NEVER
considers a match lost until its over.He certainly would never become
engrossed in a novel during a changeover at the ATP championships.
 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by Charles L » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 07:43:10

Quote:


>(The Spy) writes:

>I agree about Connors,but he is not currently on tour.Also,the fact that
>Courier is very unstable mentally and emotionally means that he doesn't
>get close to realizing his full potential.To me,the mental aspects to the
>game are even MORE important than the physical ones when your talking
>about players of such a high level of ability,ability that nears
>perfection in some cases. Chang NEVER has mental lapses and NEVER
>considers a match lost until its over.He certainly would never become
>engrossed in a novel during a changeover at the ATP championships.

   I would say that Chang does have, on occasion, mental lapses.
Sometimes he presses too much, and errors will creep in.  He
can have bad serving days, and bad return days.   However, he
rarely, if ever, throws in the towel, and usually tries to
play as best he can under the circumstances.   Unlike players
deemed champions, Chang doesn't win enough of the big points.
He is a reasonably good big point player, and has come through
some close matches, but he has also lost a few tight matches.
The problem is that Chang doesn't have the kind of game
that overwhelms players, and is vulnerable to a hot hitting
player.   However, if his opponents are playing average, then
Chang's chances are usually pretty good.

--
Charles Lin

 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by Kevin Wil » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 03:21:44

Quote:


> (The Spy) writes:

> I agree about Connors,but he is not currently on tour.Also,the fact that
> Courier is very unstable mentally and emotionally means that he doesn't
> get close to realizing his full potential.To me,the mental aspects to the
> game are even MORE important than the physical ones when your talking
> about players of such a high level of ability,ability that nears
> perfection in some cases. Chang NEVER has mental lapses and NEVER
> considers a match lost until its over.He certainly would never become
> engrossed in a novel during a changeover at the ATP championships.

Were Chang mentally and psychologically perfect on court, he probably
would have won more major titles than the supposedly flighty Courier.

KW

 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by RAKD » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 12:48:10


writes:

Chang is the unique top 10 player in that he has no big weapon that can
put his opponent away. His weapon is on the conditioning side,both
physical and mental. Courier may have more titles than Chang,but Chang has
more wins this year and doesn't completely leve his body at home after the
French Open. Courier has a huge disparity in first half-second half
success the past few years. Courier with Chang's head=#1,Chang with
Courier's head =#100

 
 
 

Chang on Clay (Re: The Surge of Clay-Courters)

Post by Dexter Medl » Thu, 13 Oct 1994 00:06:31

Quote:

>Chang is the only player on tour to get absolutely every ounce of game he
>has out of what hes got.Nuff said.

Riggs, Dibbs, Solomon, Chang - that same oversimplification has been
applied ad nauseum to every short baseliner who's ever played the game.
I'm not saying it's not true of Chang, but I'm confident that he's
not the only example of hard work maximizing results.

"Nuff said" generally means that the writer has run out of
worthwhile things to say, and does not expect to be able to cogently
respond to a counter-argument. Thank you for alerting us. 8')

-- Larry