djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by mkh » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:36:23


****************
1               Federer , R.            6775
2               Nadal , R.              5655
3               Djokovic , N.           4935
****************
 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by Fan » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:41:55


Quote:
> ****************
> 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Federer , R. ? ? ? ? ? ?6775
> 2 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nadal , R. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5655
> 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Djokovic , N. ? ? ? ? ? 4935
> ****************

Something sucks with the point system.
Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
performance?
How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by Dave Hazelwoo » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:50:25

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:41:55 -0700 (PDT), Fan

Quote:


>> ****************
>> 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Federer , R. ? ? ? ? ? ?6775
>> 2 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nadal , R. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5655
>> 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Djokovic , N. ? ? ? ? ? 4935
>> ****************

>Something sucks with the point system.
>Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
>performance?
>How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

i think those are last weeks numbers. I think Djock now has
5185. No ?

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by Dave Hazelwoo » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:54:37

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:50:25 GMT, Dave Hazelwood

Quote:

>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:41:55 -0700 (PDT), Fan


>>> ****************
>>> 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Federer , R. ? ? ? ? ? ?6775
>>> 2 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nadal , R. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5655
>>> 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Djokovic , N. ? ? ? ? ? 4935
>>> ****************

>>Something sucks with the point system.
>>Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
>>performance?
>>How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

>i think those are last weeks numbers. I think Djock now has
>5185. No ?

sorry i stand corrected.

here is a good reference.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by Fan » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:19:28



Quote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:50:25 GMT, Dave Hazelwood


> >On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:41:55 -0700 (PDT), Fan


> >>> ****************
> >>> 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Federer , R. ? ? ? ? ? ?6775
> >>> 2 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nadal , R. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5655
> >>> 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Djokovic , N. ? ? ? ? ? 4935
> >>> ****************

> >>Something sucks with the point system.
> >>Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
> >>performance?
> >>How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

> >i think those are last weeks numbers. I think Djock now has
> >5185. No ?

> sorry i stand corrected.

> here is a good reference.

> http://www.stevegtennis.com/

I get my information here:

http://www.atptennis.com/1/en/home/

1 Federer , R. 6775
2 Nadal , R. 5655
3 Djokovic , N. 4935
4 Davydenko , N. 3440
5 Ferrer , D. 2610
6 Roddick , A. 2260
7 Nalbandian , D. 2085
8 Blake , J. 1965
9 Gasquet , R. 1805
10 Berdych , T. 1650

I do not agree with is the way point are awarded. It is confusing and
unfair to award points based on past performance.

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by jean-yves herv » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:57:13

In article

Quote:

> I do not agree with is the way point are awarded. It is confusing and
> unfair to award points based on past performance.

What else would you want to base points on if not past performance?  
Future performance as projected by groupies or pundits?  I find it scary
that so many people find the concept of points accumulated over the last
12 months "confusing", as witnessed by idiots complaining that a player
is "penalized" for not failing to defend" points at a tournament, or
arguing that #1 ranking in December is more valuable than in March or
June.

jyh.

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by mark » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:56:23

there is atp race table isnt it.
besides
if they will award points based on the future performance we all know that
murray,nalbandian i gasquet will be far ahead.
 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by gregor.. » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:26:20


Quote:

> > ****************
> > 1               Federer , R.            6775
> > 2               Nadal , R.              5655
> > 3               Djokovic , N.           4935
> > ****************

> Something sucks with the point system.
> Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
> performance?
> How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

Do worse that what?

Both players did exactly the same as last year at Monte Carlo, so
there should be no difference at all ...

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by gregor.. » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:27:19


Quote:
> there is atp race table isnt it.
> besides
> if they will award points based on the future performance we all know that
> murray,nalbandian i gasquet will be far ahead.

Gasquet??!!!!!

As long as he doesn't have to face Sam "I'm a clay-court specialist"
Querry ...

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by gregor.. » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:31:30


Quote:

> > ****************
> > 1               Federer , R.            6775
> > 2               Nadal , R.              5655
> > 3               Djokovic , N.           4935
> > ****************

> Something sucks with the point system.
> Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
> performance?
> How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

ok, last year's Barcelona points have dropped off this week due to a
change in the calendar.

So if Nadal wins Barcelona this week (fairly likely) then he will have
5955 before Rome.

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by TJT » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:34:09


Quote:
> ****************
> 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Federer , R. ? ? ? ? ? ?6775
> 2 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nadal , R. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5655
> 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Djokovic , N. ? ? ? ? ? 4935
> ****************

Nadal's 300 points from Barcelona have come off. He'll get them back
this week...You could as well add 300 to Nadal's total.
 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by *skripti » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:40:45


Quote:
> In article


>> I do not agree with is the way point are awarded. It is confusing and
>> unfair to award points based on past performance.

> What else would you want to base points on if not past performance?
> Future performance as projected by groupies or pundits?  I find it scary
> that so many people find the concept of points accumulated over the last
> 12 months "confusing", as witnessed by idiots complaining that a player
> is "penalized" for not failing to defend" points at a tournament,

Never stops to amaze me actually.....

or

Quote:
> arguing that #1 ranking in December is more valuable than in March or
> June.

Well...that's another thing...,CYGS has more value than NCYGS for the very
same reason...calendar...
 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by *skripti » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:42:17


Quote:


>> > ****************
>> > 1               Federer , R.            6775
>> > 2               Nadal , R.              5655
>> > 3               Djokovic , N.           4935
>> > ****************

>> Something sucks with the point system.
>> Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
>> performance?
>> How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

> Do worse that what?

> Both players did exactly the same as last year at Monte Carlo, so
> there should be no difference at all ...

I think Nadal "did worse" in terms of ranking because his Barcelona points
already dropped out.
Barcelona was a week earlier last year.

And Djokovic still has his points earned in Estoril last year.

 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by gregor.. » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:49:23


Quote:




> >> > ****************
> >> > 1               Federer , R.            6775
> >> > 2               Nadal , R.              5655
> >> > 3               Djokovic , N.           4935
> >> > ****************

> >> Something sucks with the point system.
> >> Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
> >> performance?
> >> How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

> > Do worse that what?

> > Both players did exactly the same as last year at Monte Carlo, so
> > there should be no difference at all ...

> I think Nadal "did worse" in terms of ranking because his Barcelona points
> already dropped out.
> Barcelona was a week earlier last year.

> And Djokovic still has his points earned in Estoril last year.

yes - in reality there should be another 500 pts between Nadal and
Djokovic
 
 
 

djokovic is closer to nadal and nadal is far from federer

Post by *skripti » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:51:22


Quote:


>> > ****************
>> > 1               Federer , R.            6775
>> > 2               Nadal , R.              5655
>> > 3               Djokovic , N.           4935
>> > ****************

>> Something sucks with the point system.
>> Why not just give a set number of points regardless of past
>> performance?
>> How could Nadal do worse after beating Federer?

> ok, last year's Barcelona points have dropped off this week due to a
> change in the calendar.

> So if Nadal wins Barcelona this week (fairly likely) then he will have
> 5955 before Rome.

Will he?

Or 5455 before the Rome tournament, assuming he wins Barcelona?