What to do about twisting foot straps?

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Wheel » Thu, 03 Nov 1994 09:01:11


The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
after every few rides.

Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.

I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
you other Seatrend owners have this problem?

Thanks,
Matt Wheeler

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Jaime Corde » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 01:45:26


Quote:

>The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
>is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
>screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
>twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
>after every few rides.

I had this problem, because my boardmaker decided it would be more
comfortable if the straps twisted to conform to my feet. Nice
theory, but wrong. I ended up using 2 screws in the plug instead
of 1. Since the one was right in the middle of the plug, I ended
up with 3 holes in the plug, but it seemed to work MUCH better.
Does Seatrend use plugs or those plastic multiple position, single
***fastener do-hickeys (sorry, I don't know the real name for them) ?

Quote:

>Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
>the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
>more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.

>I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
>you other Seatrend owners have this problem?

You might try stiffer straps. That helped when I had this problem.
I've had double wide straps on my ARock and they worked fine, but
if your (single) straps are set too far apart, you may have
trouble (although there are triple wide straps).

Good luck,

Jaime
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What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Scott Math » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 04:57:04

I have had this problem often in the past.
Idea 1 is switch to two hole straps (you may have to put
a new plug in the board for this but its real easy).
Chinook sells superb plugs for this purpose.
What I ended up doing was chosing a strap made out of a
nonabsorbant material (Grinch Straps, by GrinchWorks).
I use the one***and a StrapControl spacer/washer
AND I glue the strap down with very high quality
clear***caulking compound (comes in big tubes
at hardware stores).  I can put about 50 hours on
them before they have to be recaulked.  The brand of
caulk that I use is fairly easy to remove from the board -
its just enough "glueage" to do this job.

just an idea for you

scott mather


 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Ken Bro » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 06:28:32

: The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
: is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
: screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
: twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
: after every few rides.

: Any tips?

Several things I've done have helped my rigs out:

1) Try the little plastic inserts, I think they're by ShredTech or something
   like that.  They help compress the edges of the strap against the board.

2) If the plug is wide enough, see if you can put another***in it.  Be
   sure you know where the edge of the plug is, though, to you don't end up
   creating a path for water to get inside the board (been there, done that).
   Some plugs come with two taps, so if you ever move the footstrap placement,
   get that kind of plug.  That't been the most effective thing I've done.

3) Most boards I've seen come with DaKine straps stock.  They suck, IMO.
   I go with either AirWave or VisualShred.  They don't seem to twist
   nearly as much in my experience.

Good luck,

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What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Rolland Wate » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 07:00:01


Quote:
> The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
> is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
> screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
> twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
> after every few rides.

You want to get the ShredTech footstrap thingies, they're a hard
plastic piece the width of the footstrap that puts much more even
pressure over the whole strap, lessening the tendency to twist.
It's not as good as having two different screws, like you can put
into normal custom board plugs.

You should also try putting Loctite on the screws (I presume
these are threaded inserts).  Some people claim you want to
get the not-so-super-duper Loctite, since at some point in time
you'll probably want to back the screws out, but I've never
worried about it.

Quote:
> Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
> the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
> more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.
> I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
> you other Seatrend owners have this problem?

It sounds like the footstrap is crushed down to where it's not staying
open.  Try a stiffer footstrap (like the webbing/ plastic/ and
neoprene ones for slalmom boards) and if you stack your boards
put something inside the footstrap to keep it from getting crushed.
Twist isn't normally as much of a problem with rear footstraps.

I like the wider straps, but I don't think they're any easier to get
into.  Instead, the pressure on the top of your foot is more evenly
distributed when you carve hard off the wind.  YMMV.  The last copies
of the wide Dakine and the Visual Speed footstraps I saw were the
true double wide, and what IMHO you want is the one 1/2 wide.

Rolland

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Harold Blakn » Thu, 03 Nov 1994 17:55:04


Quote:

>Subject: What to do about twisting foot straps?
>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 00:01:11 GMT
>The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
>is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
>screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
>twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
>after every few rides.
>Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
>the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
>more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.
>I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
>you other Seatrend owners have this problem?
>Thanks,
>Matt Wheeler

A few ideas. A friend has a Seatrend and he uses the wide footstrap in
the back and *loves* it, although he has a hard time finding a shop that
stocks them. This appears to help a little with the twisting. Another guy in
Hatteras uses contact cement on the straps before he screws them down. This
works real good for him, but you need the adjustable type footstraps (*not*
unscrewing to adjust) sice it is a semi-permanent solution. You can still pull
it off and redo it though. I don't have a real big problem with the twisting
on the polyester board, but it has a lot of non-skid that may help. On my
epoxy board, I use a foam type strap with a plastic rectangular washer that
seems to keep the strap tight, but I'm about to change back to a "standard"
strap because it folds over and is had to get the foot in, so I may use the
contact cement idea. I'm still trying to find the "best" straps.
Hope that helps, I know how it is to be powered to the gills and on the edge
of blowing up and unable to find the straps...errrgh.
Harold
 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Craig Goud » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 02:21:23

Quote:

>The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
>is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
>screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
>twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
>after every few rides.

ShredTech makes anti twist devices which look like large square
washers with cleats in them.  They've worked well for me.  You
just put the***through them then through the footstarp and into
the board.  The cleats keep the strap from rotating.

Quote:
>Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
>the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
>more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.

Get a piece if packing polyethelyne, cut it so that it wedges the
rear foot strap open and store your board with it wedged in the
footstrap.  It will "train" your footstrap to stay open.

Quote:
>I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
>you other Seatrend owners have this problem?

I like the extra wide rear straps.  I've got  WH feetbelts on my
PC, they're comfy.  On my CFX I've got a custom extra wide strap
made out of 2 desities of closed cell foam much like jump pad material.
It's not as comfy but the fit is exquisite.

Quote:
>Thanks,
>Matt Wheeler

Good Luck Matt,

Craig

8'4" CFX Wave Slalom, 9'4" Progressive Composites Course Slalom
Wt 160#, Ht 6'3", Usually sail on high desert lakes near SLC in Ut
Go short or go home

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Mark Leh » Sat, 05 Nov 1994 16:41:15


: >The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. <snip>

I have a '92 Seatrend has DaKine straps and never give me the problem you
speak of.  My old electric rock was terrible for what you are
describing.  It used to make me furious with frustration.  However the
bic had plastic inserts which did not allow the screws to be tightened
hard enough.  The Seatrends have metal***sleaves,  with these you
can crank down as hard as you like.  I have very large washers ( 3/4" )
between my screws and straps.  Thus I have never had this slippage
problem since the addition of the washers.

-Mark Lehne

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Juri Munk » Sat, 05 Nov 1994 03:45:33


Quote:
>The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
>is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
>screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
>twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
>after every few rides.

>Any tips?

I have a plastic Tiga and had some trouble with strats twisting after I
moved them this summer. The solution was to get small metal rings with
broken edges (sharp teeth) and put them between the board (or pads) and
the straps. The straps no longer twist at all and I don't have to tighten
the screws.

I'm not sure if they will be ok on epoxy boards, but you could probably
glue a *** washer on the board before using this method.

--
  Juri Munkki                   There ain't no such thing as a shareware lunch.

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by brune.. » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 21:29:33


Quote:

>The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
>is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
>screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
>twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
>after every few rides.

>Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
>the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
>more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.

>I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
>you other Seatrend owners have this problem?

I've got the exact same problem---I hate those straps.  The board is great,
but the straps are the most uncomfortable I've ever seen.  Do you suppose
we can drill a new hole for putting in another two screws per strap?  Does
anybody know where to buy a strap***insert that we could epoxy into
the board?  This is getting to be a hindrance to use the board.

Dan Brunelle (The Alchemist)

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by MrMog » Tue, 08 Nov 1994 14:50:34


Quote:
(Harold Blakney) writes:

Good advice!  I used a similar idea on my Seatrend.

I used the large rectangular washers designed to keep the strap from
twisting along with a thick foam type double sticky tape between the strap
and the board (try "Servo Tape" available at a hobby shop that sells
remote control racing cars). This worked great for almost the entire
season; just remember to tighten the screws every other session or so.

Have a good Winter!

 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Rolland Wate » Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:03:24


Quote:
> screws.  I did try the Shred-Tech square washers and they worked, but
> they made the strap opening so small I couldn't get my feet in
> comfortably, and I like a very tight strap and have narrow feet.  Any
> ideas would be appreciated.

???  The Shredtech strap thingies shouldn't make the opening narrower.
They're supposed to go perpendicular to the length of the strap, not
parallel, and so shouldn't take up much room at all.  
 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by THOMAS SELB » Thu, 10 Nov 1994 00:19:24

I have a Seatrend 9'7" and I have the same problem with twisting
footstraps.  I actually avoid sailing the board (stay on my 9'1") as long
as possible because it makes sailing so uncomfortable.  I did install a
double-wide feetbelt on the back, and it works fine (although it seems a
little heavy) but the front straps twist no matter how much I tighten the
screws.  I did try the Shred-Tech square washers and they worked, but
they made the strap opening so small I couldn't get my feet in
comfortably, and I like a very tight strap and have narrow feet.  Any
ideas would be appreciated.
 
 
 

What to do about twisting foot straps?

Post by Steve Spielm » Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:05:09


: >The foot straps on my '92 Seatrand are driving me crazy. There
: >is only one***on each end of each strap. I tighten the
: >screws about every other time I sail, but the straps are constantly
: >twisting. I have to sit in the water and straighten my straps
: >after every few rides.
: >
: >Any tips? I also seem to have a hard time gettting my toe in
: >the rear strap. It doesn't stay open well, twists easily. I spend
: >more time fumbling with my back foot than sailing in the straps.
: >
: >I've seen extra wide rear straps. Do these work well. Do any of
: >you other Seatrend owners have this problem?

: I've got the exact same problem---I hate those straps.  The board is great,
: but the straps are the most uncomfortable I've ever seen.  Do you suppose
: we can drill a new hole for putting in another two screws per strap?  Does
: anybody know where to buy a strap***insert that we could epoxy into
: the board?  This is getting to be a hindrance to use the board.

: Dan Brunelle (The Alchemist)

One solution is to make footstrap lock washers with stainless steel
panel washers.  (the big washers with a small hole in the middle)
Use a hacksaw to cut 4 notches halfway in toward the center of the
washer.  (one notch every 90 degrees).  Then use a pliers to bend in one
corner of each of the four sections to make a tooth that will jab into
the footstrap when you use this washer under the footstrap screws.  
This should work as long as the footstrap is gripped on the bootom by
the nonskip on the board.

 -- Steve Spielman