Kite and windsurfing ban

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by robert.elsens.. » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:17:02


Quote:
>From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm
 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by (PeteCresswell » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:41:36


Quote:
>>From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

>http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm

Besides, they're probably getting in the way of the jet-skiers....-)
--
PeteCresswell

 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by Brian Foste » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:48:26

Complaint from an enviromentalist that water sports are damaging the fragile
enviroment.

I've seen a lot of people in this group rail against big business and start
to bring politics into the discussion but isn't this just as silly?

Wind surfers and Kiters doing damage to an estuary? Insane.

"Benita Low, co-chairwoman of the Elkhorn Slough National Estuarine Research
Reserve Advisory Committee, made the request out of concern that
windsurfers, kite-boarders and other recreational surfers were disturbing
wildlife in the Moss Landing estuary."

Start writing letters to this clown.


Quote:
> >From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

> http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm


 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by Paul Braunbehren » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:55:18

Let's not jump the gun on this one.  They are talking about prohibiting
any wake or damage.  As long as they confine it to inside the slough, I
don't think it's too big a deal.

It's probably (as usual) the case that a few bad apples are ruining it
for everybody.  What's needed is for local sailors to get involved, and
find out what the issues are, and how they can be dealt with without
having an outright ban.

Are there any local sailors that could provide us with more info on the
situation?  How many people sail there, and where do they sail?  I
drive by there on occasion, but I haven't noticed anybody sailing.
I've kayaked the slough a couple times.  Too boring ;-)


Quote:

> Complaint from an enviromentalist that water sports are damaging the fragile
> enviroment.

> I've seen a lot of people in this group rail against big business and start
> to bring politics into the discussion but isn't this just as silly?

> Wind surfers and Kiters doing damage to an estuary? Insane.

> "Benita Low, co-chairwoman of the Elkhorn Slough National Estuarine Research
> Reserve Advisory Committee, made the request out of concern that
> windsurfers, kite-boarders and other recreational surfers were disturbing
> wildlife in the Moss Landing estuary."

> Start writing letters to this clown.



> > >From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

> > http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm

 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by morefor.. » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:18:44

Cue Tiny Tim ca 1970:

"Tiptoe, through the tules, through the tules, ...."

 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by Steve Elliot » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:01:45

What are they talking about????

"para-surfing" - what dat is???

"sail- and para-boarders" - who dat?

"Harbormaster Linda McIntyre said she has never seen anyone kite- or wind-
surfing in the slough, but regularly watches the surfers sail around the
Old Salinas River channel on the south side of the one-lane bridge across
Sandholdt Road from her office." - I never saw a surfer sail.

Steve


Quote:
>>From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

> http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm

 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by Barne » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:22:42

Quote:

> Are there any local sailors that could provide us with more info on the
> situation?  How many people sail there, and where do they sail?  I
> drive by there on occasion, but I haven't noticed anybody sailing.
> I've kayaked the slough a couple times.  Too boring ;-)

> > "Benita Low, co-chairwoman of the Elkhorn Slough National Estuarine Research
> > Reserve Advisory Committee, made the request out of concern that
> > windsurfers, kite-boarders and other recreational surfers were disturbing
> > wildlife in the Moss Landing estuary."

> > > >From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

> > > http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm

I have never sailed the old river channel or seen anyone windsurfing
there.  It looks like it could be a broad-reach speed-ditch when  a
strong onshore breeze is blowing. The kiters must have spotted it.  The
area can have a 7' tide swing, so it's a little hard to see how wake
damage could be a real issue.
Most of the real action this time of year at Moss Landing happens on
the ocean side of the  North jetty when a cold, offshore Salinas Valley
wind meets a robust NW swell.
 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by Barne » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:23:03

Quote:

> Are there any local sailors that could provide us with more info on the
> situation?  How many people sail there, and where do they sail?  I
> drive by there on occasion, but I haven't noticed anybody sailing.
> I've kayaked the slough a couple times.  Too boring ;-)

> > "Benita Low, co-chairwoman of the Elkhorn Slough National Estuarine Research
> > Reserve Advisory Committee, made the request out of concern that
> > windsurfers, kite-boarders and other recreational surfers were disturbing
> > wildlife in the Moss Landing estuary."

> > > >From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

> > > http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13706980.htm

I have never sailed the old river channel or seen anyone windsurfing
there.  It looks like it could be a broad-reach speed-ditch when  a
strong onshore breeze is blowing. The kiters must have spotted it.  The
area can have a 7' tide swing, so it's a little hard to see how wake
damage could be a real issue.
Most of the real action this time of year at Moss Landing happens on
the ocean side of the  North jetty when a cold, offshore Salinas Valley
wind meets a robust NW swell.
 
 
 

Kite and windsurfing ban

Post by WARDO » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:57:37

Hey Barney,
 From what I hear, a bigger issue at Moss Landing are the beginner
tow-in teams, "wakeboarders for Christs sake", as they are referred to
by pissed off surfers, by their practicing near the jetty on small days...
BTW, I've heard kiters referred to as wakeboarders, also...
I wonder if that's the nexus of the ordinance wording...

http://SportToday.org/
http://SportToday.org/

"Doug Kasunich, a 53-year-old surfer whos watched PWCs transform his
beloved Moss Landing into a dangerous, aquatic rodeo in recent years,
has found himself at the center of the controversy.

Moss Landing is the nursery school for towsurfing, Kasunich says.
Youll have these really inexperienced teams, wakeboarders for Christs
sake, letting go of the rope and immediately falling down the face
because theyve never learned to surf. They drive all of the paddle
surfers down to one peak to get away from them. Its incredibly
dangerous. It cant keep on the way it is.

And despite towsurfers protests to the contrary, Kasunich says, the jet
skis are disturbing the local wildlife.

On days when there are no skis, I surf with dolphins, otters, harbor
seals. When you have five or six jet ski crews tearing the place up,
there wont be an animal in sight, he says. Just two weeks ago I was
with eight harbor seals cornered by jet skis on the inside. I have to
assume theres a connection.

Ed Larenas, the San Mateo Surfrider Chapter chair, points to a huge
amount of data and court cases proving that PWCs detrimental effect on
marine wildlife.

The Sanctuary was taken to court by the PWC industry, and the industry
lost, Larenas says. The same scenario has played itself out in the San
Juans [off Washington State] and Marin. The ban has been upheld because
of a substantial amount of data."

Quote:
> Most of the real action this time of year at Moss Landing happens on
> the ocean side of the  North jetty when a cold, offshore Salinas Valley
> wind meets a robust NW swell.

You're not kidding...
I always liked to surf straight out at the Boneyards...
http://SportToday.org/

we hit it almost every time we were coming or going to Humboldt from
Santa Barbara...
I remember a 15' epic day trading standup barrels with King Van***...
after that day he invited us to stay on his family's ranch near Hecker
Pass...
http://SportToday.org/
King is the nephew of North Shore big wave surfing pioneer Fred Van***...
http://SportToday.org/

WARDOG
http://SportToday.org/

Quote:


>>Are there any local sailors that could provide us with more info on the
>>situation?  How many people sail there, and where do they sail?  I
>>drive by there on occasion, but I haven't noticed anybody sailing.
>>I've kayaked the slough a couple times.  Too boring ;-)

>>>"Benita Low, co-chairwoman of the Elkhorn Slough National Estuarine Research
>>>Reserve Advisory Committee, made the request out of concern that
>>>windsurfers, kite-boarders and other recreational surfers were disturbing
>>>wildlife in the Moss Landing estuary."

>>>>>From the Monterey County Herald, 1/25/06

>>>>http://SportToday.org/

> I have never sailed the old river channel or seen anyone windsurfing
> there.  It looks like it could be a broad-reach speed-ditch when  a
> strong onshore breeze is blowing. The kiters must have spotted it.  The
> area can have a 7' tide swing, so it's a little hard to see how wake
> damage could be a real issue.
> Most of the real action this time of year at Moss Landing happens on
> the ocean side of the  North jetty when a cold, offshore Salinas Valley
> wind meets a robust NW swell.