Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by windwah.. » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:55:55


September 24, 2004
?
Letter to the editor:
                  ?
                  While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
is the same as sailing without a chart.? Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship.? A competent
windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
his sail accordingly.?
?????????
???????? ??There is no doubt that the war against
terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
properly timed tacks.? The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
who drifts hopelessly out to sea.
                  ?
                  Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
for 9/11 remain somewhere else?? Do we want a president who arrogantly
charts a course away from our world community?? Do we want a president
who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
superior education?? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
corporate buddies at the helm?? Do we want a president who will leave
our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?
?
?????????? No.? We want a president who is
sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.
?
Nevin Sayre
Vineyard Haven, MA
{Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}
?
?
 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Alan » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:42:10

Thanks for reposting!  Great letter. Where did it run?

Alan

--
Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org


September 24, 2004

Letter to the editor:

                  While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
his sail accordingly.

There is no doubt that the war against
terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

                  Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

No. We want a president who is
sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

Nevin Sayre
Vineyard Haven, MA
{Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Bill » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:08:07

I agree--very well written.  Of course in response, the Bush camp could argue that
their claim was that Kerry doesn't know what his destination is, much less what
course to travel.  Kerry's recent comments on his Iraq voting record have only left
me more puzzled.  Even so, with Kerry you have at least a chance of getting to
the right port.  With Bush, you know exactly where you're headed--straight into
the rocks.  It's not the best of choices, but it's what we have.

Bill E.
Hollywood, FL

Sent via www.sfbsa.com
The South Florida Board Sailing Association

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by goine » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:37:00

More ridiculous rhetoric...........


September 24, 2004

Letter to the editor:

                  While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
his sail accordingly.

There is no doubt that the war against
terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

                  Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

No. We want a president who is
sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

Nevin Sayre
Vineyard Haven, MA
{Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by JimmySmitsLovesChocolateMil » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:41:26


Quote:
> More ridiculous rhetoric...........

and the beat goes on,

each side looking at their "team"  as doing no wrong and the other side can
do no right

Politics is Americas favorite past time,  it is a sport,  only 2 teams makes
for HUGE rivalries
no refs,  call your own fouls,  winner takes all.

its fun to watch from the outside
the people who get the most involved become the most interesting
talk show callers who spend 2hrs on hold to repeat what the host said 30
times earlier in the show make me laugh
both sides have them,  the clones.  no opinions of their own,  just whatever
they hear from frankin or oreily.

its great comedy if you can step back from it all.

Dave

Quote:


> September 24, 2004

> Letter to the editor:

>                   While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
> Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
> windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
> is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
> out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
> windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
> his sail accordingly.

> There is no doubt that the war against
> terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
> currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
> properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
> who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

>                   Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
> one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
> for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
> charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
> who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
> superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
> throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
> corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
> our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

> No. We want a president who is
> sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
> to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
> We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
> course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

> Nevin Sayre
> Vineyard Haven, MA
> {Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Brian Foste » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:01:05

Nevin should stick to sailing. Kerry looked like an idiot out on a board on
a day with no wind. He went for the photo op and he got the photo op for the
wrong party.

Mass is so full of stupid people anyway. How else do you explain a place
that reelects Ted Kennedy over and over.

John Kerry is the only senator from Mass that has actually pulled someone
out of the water.

Go Sox!!


September 24, 2004

Letter to the editor:

                  While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
his sail accordingly.

There is no doubt that the war against
terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

                  Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

No. We want a president who is
sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

Nevin Sayre
Vineyard Haven, MA
{Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Paul Braunbehren » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:30:09

Most of the time I agree with you.  However, in this case, it's a bit
different.  Bush really has gone way over the line, and is IMO a huge
threat to world wide safety, security, and the environment.

Sure, no american president is ever going to all that great, and the US
is still going to be a big polluter and a worldwide aggressor.
However, Bush has taken this to a new and scary level.

Again, just my opinion of course, but I think we really need to step
back from the ledge, and not just for the sake of the US, but for the
sake of the rest of the world as well.

Rest assured however, that many many people simply feel that Kerry is
better than Bush, though he isn't the best this country has to offer.

I think this is a VERY important election, perhaps the most important
one in our lifetimes.


Quote:



> > More ridiculous rhetoric...........

> and the beat goes on,

> each side looking at their "team"  as doing no wrong and the other side can
> do no right

> Politics is Americas favorite past time,  it is a sport,  only 2 teams makes
> for HUGE rivalries
> no refs,  call your own fouls,  winner takes all.

> its fun to watch from the outside
> the people who get the most involved become the most interesting
> talk show callers who spend 2hrs on hold to repeat what the host said 30
> times earlier in the show make me laugh
> both sides have them,  the clones.  no opinions of their own,  just whatever
> they hear from frankin or oreily.

> its great comedy if you can step back from it all.

> Dave



> > September 24, 2004

> > Letter to the editor:

> >                   While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
> > Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
> > windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
> > is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
> > out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
> > windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
> > his sail accordingly.

> > There is no doubt that the war against
> > terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
> > currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
> > properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
> > who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

> >                   Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
> > one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
> > for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
> > charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
> > who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
> > superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
> > throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
> > corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
> > our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

> > No. We want a president who is
> > sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
> > to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
> > We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
> > course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

> > Nevin Sayre
> > Vineyard Haven, MA
> > {Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Paul Braunbehren » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:31:49

Everything he does is a "photo op".  You've never sailed on a day with
no wind because that was the only day you could go out?  I certainly
have, sometimes you just need to get wet.


Quote:

> Nevin should stick to sailing. Kerry looked like an idiot out on a board on
> a day with no wind. He went for the photo op and he got the photo op for the
> wrong party.

> Mass is so full of stupid people anyway. How else do you explain a place
> that reelects Ted Kennedy over and over.

> John Kerry is the only senator from Mass that has actually pulled someone
> out of the water.

> Go Sox!!



> September 24, 2004

> Letter to the editor:

>                   While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
> Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
> windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
> is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
> out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
> windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
> his sail accordingly.

> There is no doubt that the war against
> terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
> currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
> properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
> who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

>                   Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
> one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
> for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
> charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
> who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
> superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
> throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
> corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
> our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

> No. We want a president who is
> sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
> to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
> We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
> course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

> Nevin Sayre
> Vineyard Haven, MA
> {Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Brian Foste » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 05:39:28




Quote:
> Most of the time I agree with you.  However, in this case, it's a bit
> different.  Bush really has gone way over the line, and is IMO a huge
> threat to world wide safety, security, and the environment.

You are simply nuts. You have lost any sane perspective and now you are
babbleing......

Quote:

> Sure, no american president is ever going to all that great, and the US
> is still going to be a big polluter and a worldwide aggressor.
> However, Bush has taken this to a new and scary level.

News flash, America is not the problem. America is the answer. Why don't you
go live somewhere else and burn that countries flag? Yeah it pollutes a
little, but it'll get you thrown in jail or worse.

Quote:

> Again, just my opinion of course, but I think we really need to step
> back from the ledge, and not just for the sake of the US, but for the
> sake of the rest of the world as well.

You need to go jump off a building some where. A very high one. Take one for
the team, lean into the pitch....

Quote:

> Rest assured however, that many many people simply feel that Kerry is
> better than Bush, though he isn't the best this country has to offer.

We are about to find out just how few people actually believe Kerry should
be president. He will be crushed on election day because he's the kind of
wishy washy New England Liberal Democrat that scares so many of us to death.
We are simply not going to turn the security of this country over to an
idiot like Kerry.

Quote:

> I think this is a VERY important election, perhaps the most important
> one in our lifetimes.

Why don't you sit this one out and let the ***s handle this one.
Quote:





> > > More ridiculous rhetoric...........

> > and the beat goes on,

> > each side looking at their "team"  as doing no wrong and the other side
can
> > do no right

> > Politics is Americas favorite past time,  it is a sport,  only 2 teams
makes
> > for HUGE rivalries
> > no refs,  call your own fouls,  winner takes all.

> > its fun to watch from the outside
> > the people who get the most involved become the most interesting
> > talk show callers who spend 2hrs on hold to repeat what the host said 30
> > times earlier in the show make me laugh
> > both sides have them,  the clones.  no opinions of their own,  just
whatever
> > they hear from frankin or oreily.

> > its great comedy if you can step back from it all.

> > Dave



> > > September 24, 2004

> > > Letter to the editor:

> > >                   While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
> > > Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on
a
> > > windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
> > > is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
> > > out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
> > > windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
> > > his sail accordingly.

> > > There is no doubt that the war against
> > > terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
> > > currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments
and
> > > properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
> > > who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

> > >                   Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
> > > one direction, storming into one country when those actually
responsible
> > > for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
> > > charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
> > > who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
> > > superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
> > > throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
> > > corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
> > > our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

> > > No. We want a president who is
> > > sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
> > > to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
> > > We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
> > > course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

> > > Nevin Sayre
> > > Vineyard Haven, MA
> > > {Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Brian Foste » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 05:41:10

No, I work on W's campaign ads when I'm not sailing.........

You're plenty wet.




Quote:
> Everything he does is a "photo op".  You've never sailed on a day with
> no wind because that was the only day you could go out?  I certainly
> have, sometimes you just need to get wet.



> > Nevin should stick to sailing. Kerry looked like an idiot out on a board
on
> > a day with no wind. He went for the photo op and he got the photo op for
the
> > wrong party.

> > Mass is so full of stupid people anyway. How else do you explain a place
> > that reelects Ted Kennedy over and over.

> > John Kerry is the only senator from Mass that has actually pulled
someone
> > out of the water.

> > Go Sox!!



> > September 24, 2004

> > Letter to the editor:

> >                   While recklessly sailing America into the riptide of
> > Iraq, the Bush campaign now runs a negative ad featuring John Kerry on a
> > windsurfer, implying that modifying one's course when the wind changes
> > is the same as sailing without a chart. Obviously Bush/Cheney are as
> > out to sea on seamanship as they are on statesmanship. A competent
> > windsurfer must be able to adapt to changing wind and waves, and trim
> > his sail accordingly.

> > There is no doubt that the war against
> > terrorism will continue to be a long struggle upwind, against vicious
> > currents. However, you can't sail upwind without correct adjustments and
> > properly timed tacks. The sailor who can't (or won't) tack is the one
> > who drifts hopelessly out to sea.

> >                   Do we want a president who can only sail blindly in
> > one direction, storming into one country when those actually responsible
> > for 9/11 remain somewhere else? Do we want a president who arrogantly
> > charts a course away from our world community? Do we want a president
> > who shirks his responsibility to provide affordable healthcare and
> > superior education? Do we want a president who thinks nothing of
> > throwing trash overboard as he irresponsibly sails along with his
> > corporate buddies at the helm? Do we want a president who will leave
> > our children the bill for his exclusive yacht?

> > No. We want a president who is
> > sensitive- yes, sensitive- to changing conditions and who can bring us
> > to safe harbor by making timely and appropriate adjustments in course.
> > We do NOT want a president who is only capable of staying the WRONG
> > course and sailing us off the edge of the earth.

> > Nevin Sayre
> > Vineyard Haven, MA
> > {Nevin Sayre is five-time U.S. National Windsurfing Champion}

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Florian Feuser /FFF » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:00:58


Quote:
> You need to go jump off a building some where.
> A very high one. Take one for
> the team, lean into the pitch....

That's a real mature argument Brian. Please don't go vote with that attitude.

Quote:
> We are about to find out just how few people actually
> believe Kerry should
> be president. He will be crushed on election day
> because he's the kind of
> wishy washy New England Liberal Democrat that scares
> so many of us to death.
> We are simply not going to turn the security of this
> country over to an
> idiot like Kerry.

What's so scary, here? Is it New England, Liberal or Democrat? You've adapted
some phobia haven't you? FYI: if Liberal scares you, you don't understand what
the term liberal means.

Re/ security:
Remember 911 happened under the watchful eye of the current administration.
They have not found the perpetrators of the crime yet but are using nearly all
the military and financial resources available in a previously unrelated
campaign.

Congrats on your choice and good luck to you if you qualify for the draft.

Quote:
>> I think this is a VERY important election, perhaps
>> the most important
>> one in our lifetimes.

> Why don't you sit this one out and let the ***s handle this one.

Yea, right. Read above.

florian /FFF/

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Florian Feuser /FFF » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:01:34


Quote:
> You need to go jump off a building some where.
> A very high one. Take one for
> the team, lean into the pitch....

That's a real mature argument Brian. Please don't go vote with that attitude.

Quote:
> We are about to find out just how few people actually
> believe Kerry should
> be president. He will be crushed on election day
> because he's the kind of
> wishy washy New England Liberal Democrat that scares
> so many of us to death.
> We are simply not going to turn the security of this
> country over to an
> idiot like Kerry.

What's so scary, here? Is it New England, Liberal or Democrat? You've adapted
some phobia haven't you? FYI: if Liberal scares you, you don't understand what
the term liberal means.

Re/ security:
Remember 911 happened under the watchful eye of the current administration.
They have not found the perpetrators of the crime yet but are using nearly all
the military and financial resources available in a previously unrelated
campaign.

Congrats on your choice and good luck to you if you qualify for the draft.

Quote:
>> I think this is a VERY important election, perhaps
>> the most important
>> one in our lifetimes.

> Why don't you sit this one out and let the ***s handle this one.

Yea, right. Read above.

florian /FFF/

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by windwah.. » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:28:10

To Gary, and anyone else who mistakenly thinks "wind wahine" (=wind
girl) is Nevin,

Nevin did not post this, I did. A democracy is a wonderful thing. What
you think is inappropriate and trolling, I think is a well written,
clever response to attacks against windsurfing as well as Kerry.
~Holly

E-mail message  


or two from windsurfing

Nevin, you are a talented sailor and prominent member of the windsurfing
community, but your judgment on what is appropriate in this forum is
sadly lacking. There's enough strife in the world (and this list)
without posting blatant and damning commentary in support of one side of
the other.
The fact that my political sympathies are also Democratic are
irrelevant. Posting stuff like this here is simple trolling.

Gary Wood

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Weed F » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:47:07

<< Nevin should stick to sailing. Kerry looked like an idiot out on a board on
a day with no wind. He went for the photo op and he got the photo op for the
wrong party. >>

Kerry's got his jibes nailed on this photo op: http://www.flippercam.com/

 
 
 

Bush could learn a thing or two from windsurfing

Post by Gwoo » Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:55:39

I sent this via email since I did not feel continuing the thread here was
appropriate. I belieive it is "netiquette" to do so when a message is
directed at one person and not the entire group.  My email was a plea to
keep politics out of this forum.  Sadly I have inadvertently contributed to
what I tried to avoid.

Take a look at where the thread has gone.  ***, polarizing, and entirely
predicatable.  Not sure I appreciate my private email being posted either,
but I guess that's my bad.


To Gary, and anyone else who mistakenly thinks "wind wahine" (=wind
girl) is Nevin,

Nevin did not post this, I did. A democracy is a wonderful thing. What
you think is inappropriate and trolling, I think is a well written,
clever response to attacks against windsurfing as well as Kerry.
~Holly