FINS..HELP ME ?

FINS..HELP ME ?

Post by Lee Williamso » Mon, 04 Aug 1997 04:00:00


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So, I am a fairly new surfer and I have been watching this group fo a month
or so now.&nbsp; I am getting confused with all these fin sizes and shapes.&nbsp;
It took me a while to figure out board size, sail size, getting in the
straps etc.&nbsp; Now I have to worry about my fin being the correct size
and shape.&nbsp; Can somebody break it down in basic terminology the diffs
between size of fins in relationship to the performance of my surfing.&nbsp;
Oh and by the way, why the heck is a small piece of plastic so expensive.
<BR>Thanks.
<BR>Lee...
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FINS..HELP ME ?

Post by Nic Pillinge » Tue, 05 Aug 1997 04:00:00

wow this stuff they taught us at club vass is pretty good...

FINS very briefly

the fin generates lift to get your board planing in a straight line. The
bigger the fin the more lift is generated.

size (generally measured in depth that they reach down into the water)
vary from 25cm to 40cm. To get a board planing in lighter winds with
bigger sails use a bigger fin.
You'll know when the fin you have in the board is too big (for the
amount of wind) when your board starts to spin out, become
uncontrollable.

shape, slalom/recreational short boards generally come with an upright
fin, which is great for going in straight lines and upwind. However when
the wind gets up and so does the chop/waves the characteristics you need
in a fin change. A slightly swept back design will stop the control
problems you get with an upright fin in highwinds due to the angle at
which the water is passing over the fin.

So choose your fin carefully because it'll make a lot of difference - it
should depend on board/sail/wind and sea conditions. flat water light
wind on a largeish short board you should be using something in the
range of 38-40cm upright fin(IMO) and once the wind is picking up this
should be more like a 32-34cm. Sailing in more swell/chop/highwind with
smaller sails I would switch down to a 28cm ish swept back fin.

PRICE: the reason they are so expensive? don't ask me, is G10 and
expensive composite to make? It is worth paying the price though in my
experience (although most boards these days come with a reasonable fin)
it's a good idea to have at least 2 fins.

cheers
Nic

 
 
 

FINS..HELP ME ?

Post by NLW TFW » Tue, 05 Aug 1997 04:00:00

This is a HUGE topic, worthy of a small book. Find a friend with boxes of
old windsurfing mags, and dig in. Even the old mags contain fin theory and
practice that are still valid; hydrodynamics hasn't changed since water
was invented. There are still valid, high-performance applications of fins
that were designed 10 years ago.

And, yeah, that small piece of "plastic" makes a HUGE difference.

Mike \m/
Never Leave Wind To Find Wind

 
 
 

FINS..HELP ME ?

Post by Rhona Gree » Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:00:00

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> So, I am a fairly new surfer and I have been watching this group fo a
> month or so now.  I am getting confused with all these fin sizes and
> shapes.  It took me a while to figure out board size, sail size,
> getting in the straps etc.  Now I have to worry about my fin being the
> correct size and shape.  Can somebody break it down in basic
> terminology the diffs between size of fins in relationship to the
> performance of my surfing.  Oh and by the way, why the heck is a small
> piece of plastic so expensive.
> Thanks.
> Lee...

A very useful article on fins was written by Greg Fenton in Windsport #
62, 1993 and as I think is still very relevent today.  Essentially it
said:

The greater the area (not neccessarily length) of the fin, the greater
is the lift produced.  Higher aspect fins (blades) usually produce
somewhat less low-end lift but better top speed and control.  Older,
heavier boards and beginners often gain from having a wider base,
lower-aspect fin to help planing.

By surveying many sailors, using a wide variety of equipment and
collecting data on the size (area) of fin that they used with different
sizes of sails, a consistent "magic number" was found.  For sail sizes
from 4.5 to 6.0, the number is 41 and for sails 6.5 to 7.5 the number is
45. So by multiplying the sail size by this number you will get a close
approximation to the optimum fin size in square centimeters for allround
use.  For example 6.5m sail - 6.5 x 45 = 292.5 sq cm. so a suitable fin
would be say a 14.5 inch, True Ames Series II of area 290.3.

What about the weight of the sailor?  That factor is eliminated because
heavier sailors will usually be on a larger sail for a given wind
strength.

Other tips included:

For those who have trouble planing in marginal winds add 1 to the number
and for most of us it is better to have a fin a little too big than one
too small.  Its a good starting point - not the final word!

My only advice is don't waste your money on very expensive fins until
you are ready for them.

Good luck

Brian