by The Do » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:40:09
Definitely going Intel processor (sorry Mac heads, I don't do Mac).
What chipsets should I be looking at?
TIA
Dog
by Zephy » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:15:16
> Definitely going Intel processor (sorry Mac heads, I don't do Mac).
> What chipsets should I be looking at?
> TIA
> Dog
your last sentence might give away how long it has been since your were in
the "geek squad"
Mac's have Intel inside now a days.
I can't really comment too much on the digital video side of things, but I
will say this.
I gave up on building my own computers because I can buy a new fully
assemble machine with specs as good as I want for a lower price.
in this case it seems that the sum of the parts is sometimes greater than
the value of the whole.
in more news Wally World is going to start selling Dells in their stores.
my first stop when looking for new hardware has always been here though
http://www.dell.com/outlet/
refurbs and scratch/dent models for a good deal less.
Dave
by Michae » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:24:26
> > It's getting near time to build a new machine at the house. I've got
> > a good idea on the general configuration cause I want to start doing
> > some DV. But I've paid zero attention to what's going on for awhile,
> > so they revoked my computer geek status.
> > Definitely going Intel processor (sorry Mac heads, I don't do Mac).
> > What chipsets should I be looking at?
> > TIA
> > Dog
> Dog,
> your last sentence might give away how long it has been since your were in
> the "geek squad"
> Mac's have Intel inside now a days.
> I can't really comment too much on the digital video side of things, but I
> will say this.
> I gave up on building my own computers because I can buy a new fully
> assemble machine with specs as good as I want for a lower price.
> in this case it seems that the sum of the parts is sometimes greater than
> the value of the whole.
> in more news Wally World is going to start selling Dells in their stores.
> my first stop when looking for new hardware has always been here though
> http://www.dell.com/outlet/
> refurbs and scratch/dent models for a good deal less.
> Dave
by Dan Weis » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:40:29
> Definitely going Intel processor (sorry Mac heads, I don't do Mac).
> What chipsets should I be looking at?
> TIA
> Dog
For better 2D video, I was told that my card is the bottom of the
barrel. For *** and 3D rendering, a seperate physics processor
will turn pretty much anything into a rocket.
Not sure how much this helps, if at all, but....
-Dan
by youngwater » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:03:43
Hi Dog.
When you say DV, are you meaning good old fashioned standard
definition DV? Are you planning on stepping into the brave new world
of HD soon? And if so, which format do you plan to use? HDV, or
AVCHD?
What's your budget?
Are you going with a laptop or a tower?
And finally... which specific brand and model of editing software are
you going to use - and why?
Cheers.
by trialzride » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:22:55
Nathan
by Zephy » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:50:15
>> Definitely going Intel processor (sorry Mac heads, I don't do Mac).
>> What chipsets should I be looking at?
>> TIA
>> Dog
> Dog: I am NOT qualified to give advice, but will tell you that my new
> light-duty PC uses an Intel Dual-Core processor that greatly improves
> average speed since background applications (like virus scanning and
> update installations) can run independently of the work in the
> foreground. The processor is the Intel Core Duo Processor E4300 (2MB
> L2 Cache, 1.8 GHz, 800FSB) Exacly what this means is beyond me, but
> it works very well with 2GB RAM and a light-duty video card (256MB
> NVidia GeFROCE 7300le Turbo Cache).
the thing I don't get completely about these new multi core processors is
the name scheme.
you've got your core 2, your core duo, and your core 2 duo. Is it
supposed to be that difficult?
I recently had the chance to use a new dell with a 4 core chip and 4 gig of
ram... MAN was that fast.
http://SportToday.org/
> For better 2D video, I was told that my card is the bottom of the
> barrel. For *** and 3D rendering, a seperate physics processor
> will turn pretty much anything into a rocket.
> Not sure how much this helps, if at all, but....
> -Dan
by The Do » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 05:01:20
> Hi Dog.
> When you say DV, are you meaning good old fashioned standard
> definition DV? Are you planning on stepping into the brave new world
> of HD soon? And if so, which format do you plan to use? HDV, or
> AVCHD?
> What's your budget?
> Are you going with a laptop or a tower?
> And finally... which specific brand and model of editing software are
> you going to use - and why?
> Cheers.
But it seems like everyone thought that I meant "processor" when I
meant "chipset", as in what's on the rest of the motherboard. Like is
the SiS655FX really that much better than the i865PE.
I guess I'm still the biggest computer geek here. Cause when I say
build, I don't mean custom ordering. I mean gathering components and
an empty case.
Answers to other comments/questions:
- I'm not a MAC man. Period. Been there, done that, have the
scars.
- I'm building a tower (wife already has a screaming laptop), even
though I can probably get close with an off the shelf. I've not seen
exactly what I wanted.
- Yes, I'll spend less building than paying someone to build me what I
want. Trust me on this.
- Processor will be one or two speeds down from the fastest Duo Core.
- Probably just HDV.
- Don't know about editing software yet. Don't even have the camera
yet.
Dog
by M. Gun » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 05:46:27
MacMo ;)
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by The Do » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:16:38
(movie didn't load - will try again later)
Dog
by The Do » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:04:39
> This is a topic that you can spend much time on!!! But here are a few
> thoughts, links, ideas...
> I'll not even try to "switch" you to a simple plug and play solution
> such as a new 64-bit Intel Core 2 Duo processor equipped iMac, with
> Final Cut Express HD pre-installed. This simple, elegant solution
> does not provide the type of adventures and experimentation which can
> also be so much fun for some ;-)
I confess to using my hardware engineer mentality - hardware first,
let the software goobers figure it out.
As for the actual video part of it, I'm not looking for pro level
stuff. I just want to play with it, maybe do the occasional online
movie.
Dog
by Mike Cole » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:16:54
I just finished building a new vista box. Here are the components I used:
CPU: Core Duo E6600 conroe core running at 2.4ghz. Overclockable but I'm not
into that.
MB: I chose an Asus P5NSLI based on an Nvidia 650 SLI chipset. I wanted SATA
with RAID 0/1 support and the Nvidia chipset for a low price. Didn't want to
spend the extra for the 680.
Hard drives: Spend a little more and get WD Raptor drives. 10k drives with
16mb cache. If you can't afford raptors then get a raptor for your boot
drive and then a pair of 7.2k class drives and run them in RAID mode 1 if
you want more bandwidth.
Video... I'm not a gamer so I did not drop a bunch of money on a DX10 card.
If you are into *** then you HAVE to have an Nvidia 8x series card
running DX10. The results are breathtaking. I instead chose a 79x Nvidia
based half gig card. You could go with a pair of these cards in SLI mode and
still be dollars ahead of what you'd spend on a 8x card.
For memory I chose two 1gb sticks at 667mhz.
For DVD I chose a liteon burner with lightscribe.
Check out www.tomshardware.com for good information on what's screaming
fast... You know, the stuff for the money is no object gamer crowd kind of
fast. Tom's also has good information on where the current performance /
value sweet spot is at... This is what I usually try to hit when I build up
a new machine.
The raptor hard drives are sick fast. Of all the components I picked the
raptors provided the biggest bang for the buck. I'm running the 32 bit
version of vista ultimate. No problems with drivers. I'm happy with vista
and even though I despise gratuitous eye candy user interface the
"window-tab" mechanism with the aero interface is very cool AND useful.
Hope this helps.
Mike
P.S. I've had good luck with tigerdirect.
>> Hi Dog.
>> When you say DV, are you meaning good old fashioned standard
>> definition DV? Are you planning on stepping into the brave new world
>> of HD soon? And if so, which format do you plan to use? HDV, or
>> AVCHD?
>> What's your budget?
>> Are you going with a laptop or a tower?
>> And finally... which specific brand and model of editing software are
>> you going to use - and why?
>> Cheers.
> Well... You've asked some questions I really hadn't thought about.
> But it seems like everyone thought that I meant "processor" when I
> meant "chipset", as in what's on the rest of the motherboard. Like is
> the SiS655FX really that much better than the i865PE.
> I guess I'm still the biggest computer geek here. Cause when I say
> build, I don't mean custom ordering. I mean gathering components and
> an empty case.
> Answers to other comments/questions:
> - I'm not a MAC man. Period. Been there, done that, have the
> scars.
> - I'm building a tower (wife already has a screaming laptop), even
> though I can probably get close with an off the shelf. I've not seen
> exactly what I wanted.
> - Yes, I'll spend less building than paying someone to build me what I
> want. Trust me on this.
> - Processor will be one or two speeds down from the fastest Duo Core.
> - Probably just HDV.
> - Don't know about editing software yet. Don't even have the camera
> yet.
> Dog
by Florian Feuse » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:31:32
>>> Definitely going Intel processor (sorry Mac heads, I don't do Mac).
>>> What chipsets should I be looking at?
>>> TIA
>>> Dog
>> Dog: I am NOT qualified to give advice, but will tell you that my new
>> light-duty PC uses an Intel Dual-Core processor that greatly improves
>> average speed since background applications (like virus scanning and
>> update installations) can run independently of the work in the
>> foreground. The processor is the Intel Core Duo Processor E4300 (2MB
>> L2 Cache, 1.8 GHz, 800FSB) Exacly what this means is beyond me, but
>> it works very well with 2GB RAM and a light-duty video card (256MB
>> NVidia GeFROCE 7300le Turbo Cache).
> light duty 256MB video card....
> man, thats weird to say. but I guess so is 2GB of RAM.
> the thing I don't get completely about these new multi core processors is
> the name scheme.
> you've got your core 2, your core duo, and your core 2 duo. Is it
> supposed to be that difficult?
> I recently had the chance to use a new dell with a 4 core chip and 4 gig of
> ram... MAN was that fast.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
;-)
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by M. Gun » Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:12:01
MacMo ;)
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