Neil Pryde Boom

Neil Pryde Boom

Post by Dan B. Kas » Sat, 21 Sep 1991 22:43:14


OK, I need equipment advice.  I think I am going to buy a Neil Pryde
boom, the one with the red clamp on that has a twist adjust to it, and
the boom end has a knid oof catch for the out hall and then you twist
to adjust it.  Any one like it?  Hate it?  Does it hold up?  Is it
easy to work with or does it take two monster trucks to adjust?  

Also, Harness lines, I've been using DaKine for 3 years.  Any better
Ideas?  

Since these are probably FAQ's, E-mail is fine, but I'll be reading
here as well.

Thanks

Dan Kasha

Old homemade 8'11" (love it), old wadells (love them), old boom (hate it)
old mast (hate it, weighs a ton), old car to tote it around (love it)

 
 
 

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Post by m.. » Sun, 22 Sep 1991 00:07:58

I use the Neil Pryde boom and love it.  Easy to use, easy to adjust.
Easy to adjust the head, ok cleat in the rear.

The only negative comment I can find is that I keep finding water in
the tubes where it shouldn't be.
Perhaps if I didn't spend so much time in the water.:-)

Be sure to check head sizes since there seems to be a small variation.
I have an AL75 mast which is large and fits quites snug.  No sleeve
could be used but the plastic strap holding the head is fairly wide so
not a big concern for me.

-mark

 
 
 

Neil Pryde Boom

Post by Ken Berg » Sun, 22 Sep 1991 00:00:07

Quote:

>boom, the one with the red clamp on that has a twist adjust to it, and
>the boom end has a knid oof catch for the out hall and then you twist
>to adjust it.  Any one like it?  Hate it?  Does it hold up?  Is it

I broke one of my two Pryde booms in the middle of this season.  It
broke clean right by one of the aft harness line stays.  I'm sure it
had developed some stress cracks in this area because of the jagged
nature of the failure.  I like the booms o.k. though.  This boom had
probably 150 days on it so I don't consider it a big deal.  Hey-
stuff wears out.  My other Pryde boom needs new foam grip. It has
warn completely thru this summer where the harness line stays are
since I now use it for every size sail.  

Sometime this fall or winter, I'm going for 2 new Chinook Gorillia
booms.  I really like these (E9).

Ken

 
 
 

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Post by Ken Poult » Sun, 22 Sep 1991 04:45:30

Quote:
> Also, Harness lines, I've been using DaKine for 3 years.  Any better
> Ideas?  

I like the length-adjustable ones (Windsurf Hawaii?).  Tune while
you sail...

I was previously using the F2 clamp-on harness lines (before I got my
Fleetwood obround booms, which won't fit the clamps).  On my long board
I could adjust these while sailing and was very happy with their
resistence to sliding.  They turned out, however, to be very tricky to
adjust on a short board since you need to stay powered to stay floating.

Ken Poulton

 
 
 

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Post by Will Est » Sun, 22 Sep 1991 05:39:52


Quote:
>OK, I need equipment advice.  I think I am going to buy a Neil Pryde
>boom, the one with the red clamp on that has a twist adjust to it, and
>the boom end has a knid oof catch for the out hall and then you twist
>to adjust it.  Any one like it?  Hate it?  Does it hold up?  Is it
>easy to work with or does it take two monster trucks to adjust?  
>Also, Harness lines, I've been using DaKine for 3 years.  Any better
>Ideas?  
>Since these are probably FAQ's, E-mail is fine, but I'll be reading
>here as well.

If you sail rough waters or high winds I would avoid that boom.
The team riders I have talked to claim that the head has no plastic
shock absorber to absorb stress during crashes.  Guys have broken
the boom and masts as a result.  If you look at most booms they have
a flexible plastic connection between the boom head and the boom.
These plastic connections tend to bend under stress conditions.
Neil Pryde has a fixed metal rod instead which does not have much give
under stress, so stress is transferred to the head and mast instead.  

The boom you should get is the Bic UP high-end boom.  It uses the
Nautix head (which is the most used boom-head on the pro tour) and
the Neil Pryde back end.  The NP back end is great!  It has micro
adjusts that let you change the boom length after the sail is already
connected.  Works great.  And, as is typical for Bic, the price can't
be beat.  A team rider for Bic turned me onto the design.  He used to
sail Nautix, but he discovered that the Bic's were cheaper and combined
the best features of both Nautix and Neil Pryde.


 
 
 

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Post by Peter Som » Tue, 24 Sep 1991 11:49:14


Quote:
(Dan B. Kasha) writes:

|>
|> OK, I need equipment advice.  I think I am going to buy a Neil Pryde
|> boom, the one with the red clamp on that has a twist adjust to it, and
|> the boom end has a knid oof catch for the out hall and then you twist
|> to adjust it.  Any one like it?  Hate it?  Does it hold up?  Is it
|> easy to work with or does it take two monster trucks to adjust?  
|>
|> Also, Harness lines, I've been using DaKine for 3 years.  Any better
|> Ideas?  
|>
|> Since these are probably FAQ's, E-mail is fine, but I'll be reading
|> here as well.
|>
|>
|> Thanks
|>
|> Dan Kasha
|>
|> Old homemade 8'11" (love it), old wadells (love them), old boom (hate it)
|> old mast (hate it, weighs a ton), old car to tote it around (love it)

Yes, I have these Neil Pride booms. They are great: they clip onto the
mast, the outhaul string-loops just hook over the clew and tension is
adjusted by twisting nuts (with a quick-action release provided), and the
booms swivel on the mast clamp to allow adjustement of boom height without
causing point loading on the mast. The only disadvantage I have found is
that if sand gets into the these rotating 'nuts', on occasions, heaven and
earth would not free them up, which can be tricky...
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Post by Kirk Lindstr » Tue, 24 Sep 1991 00:07:15

Contrary ti Will, I DON'T like the Nautix FE on the booms I've tried.  It
seemed that when I was*** all of my weight from them to get on a plane
I could feel them give which distorts the sail shape.  The pros sail way
powered up so getting onto a plane in light air isn't much of a problem.
Am I full of B.S?  Is it technique I haven't learned yet?  I don't know
but I like Gorge Technology, Chinook and Fleetwood front ends the best
(haven't tried North, but it looks like a battle axe as it is so large).

my $0.02 worth
-Kirk (215 lbs) out

 
 
 

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Post by Ken Poult » Thu, 26 Sep 1991 16:18:25

Quote:
> >> The boom you should get is the Bic UP high-end boom.  

> ...  it creaks like crazy whenever
> >the load on it shifts!

> Are you sure you didn't get the one that comes with their rig package?
> That one is a toy.  You've seen my new boom, right?  Is the one you used
> the one with red micro-adjusts on the end and the Nautix front-end?

The same back end.  Not sure about the front end.  

Ken Poulton

 
 
 

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Post by Will Est » Thu, 26 Sep 1991 07:25:57

Quote:

>Yes, I have these Neil Pride booms. They are great: they clip onto the
>mast, the outhaul string-loops just hook over the clew and tension is
>adjusted by twisting nuts (with a quick-action release provided), and the
>booms swivel on the mast clamp to allow adjustement of boom height without
>causing point loading on the mast. The only disadvantage I have found is
>that if sand gets into the these rotating 'nuts', on occasions, heaven and
>earth would not free them up, which can be tricky...

Yes, I've noticed the same thing regarding sand.  The micro-adjust knobs
look like they could be removed with the use of some special tool.  If you
figure a way to get them off please post!  I think if I could clean them
occasionally this would not be a big problem.  It's the accumulation of
sand over time that worries me.


 
 
 

Neil Pryde Boom

Post by Will Est » Thu, 26 Sep 1991 07:27:21

Quote:

>> The boom you should get is the Bic UP high-end boom.  
>I got one of these booms for cheap (because I broke my last Bic boom head
>under warranty).  I allegedly got a '92 UP boom.  It does not feel as
>solid as my Fleetwood obround booms, and it creaks like crazy whenever
>the load on it shifts!

Are you sure you didn't get the one that comes with their rig package?
That one is a toy.  You've seen my new boom, right?  Is the one you used
the one with red micro-adjusts on the end and the Nautix front-end?


 
 
 

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Post by Ken Poult » Wed, 25 Sep 1991 17:16:32

Quote:
> The boom you should get is the Bic UP high-end boom.  

I got one of these booms for cheap (because I broke my last Bic boom head
under warranty).  I allegedly got a '92 UP boom.  It does not feel as
solid as my Fleetwood obround booms, and it creaks like crazy whenever
the load on it shifts!

Ken Poulton

 
 
 

Neil Pryde Boom

Post by Tom Alber » Tue, 24 Sep 1991 23:31:46

My input on the Neil Pryde boom is that I can't keep it from slipping on
my KC Fiber mast.  It only has a little piece of *** which has some void
space behind it, so it doesn't stick so well.  Also, I have broken the steel
cable which connects the clamp to the strap.  They do have a new piece to
replace the steel with rope.  I'd make sure to get a new model.  Don't know
if it holds the mast any better.  Doubt it.

tom.

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Lum » Wed, 25 Sep 1991 19:11:20

|>

|> (Dan B. Kasha) writes:
|> |>
|> |> OK, I need equipment advice.  I think I am going to buy a Neil Pryde
|> |> boom, the one with the red clamp on that has a twist adjust to it, and
|> |>
|> |> [deleted]
|> |>
|> Yes, I have these Neil Pride booms. They are great: they clip onto the
|> mast, the outhaul string-loops just hook over the clew and tension is
|> adjusted by twisting nuts (with a quick-action release provided), and the
|> booms swivel on the mast clamp to allow adjustement of boom height without
|> causing point loading on the mast. The only disadvantage I have found is
|> that if sand gets into the these rotating 'nuts', on occasions, heaven and
|> earth would not free them up, which can be tricky...

I've had one these booms for a couple of months now and I like it too. The
continuously adjustable outhaul is a dream.

The only real problem I've experienced is that of the front end slipping
down the mast a little when sailing in really heavy chop or landing to hard
from jumps. The twist adjust nust can get jammed with sand but a quick rinse
usually clears the lock-up.

One feature I particularly like is the ability to take the boom completely
to bits. If you extend the back end as far as possible (until the nuts are
sitting on the unthreaded part of the tube) a gentle rock of the back end
will then free the nuts from their housings on the boom arms. You can then
unclip the front end from the tubes using the push buttons. Be careful not
to try and pull the back end out too far as you can end up leaving the
*** sealing plugs stuck inside the ends of the arms.

As I carry all my gear around inside a VW Golf (Rabbit) it's handy to be
able to break the boom down to a more managable size.

I always dismantle the boom after sailing and clean out any sand from the
nuts.

Dave

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Post by Tom Alber » Thu, 26 Sep 1991 23:15:31

Quote:
> Yes, I've noticed the same thing regarding sand.  The micro-adjust knobs
> look like they could be removed with the use of some special tool.  If you
> figure a way to get them off please post!  I think if I could clean them
> occasionally this would not be a big problem.  

        I'm sorry.  Are we talking about the Neil Pryde booms or the
        Nautix ?  The Pryde boom tail piece comes off pretty easily.
        Slide those metal rings on the twist knobs toward the head
        of the boom cwso you're in for macro-adjust position, then
        slide the tail of the boom right out.  The twist knobs stay
        on the boom until the tail is off then they pop off easily.
        To re-assemble the boom, put the knobs on first, then carefully
        insert the tail thru the knobs.  A little tricky to hold the
        knobs on while inserting the tail, but not bad.

        tom.