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> What year did the manufacturers start moving back the mast track.  Was
> Starboard the first?

> Why do you ask?

> > What year did the manufacturers start moving back the mast track.  Was
> > Starboard the first?

> > Why do you ask?

>Because I need to replace a very old high wind board but I will
>probably buy used.

> Per Peterk:
> >Because I need to replace a very old high wind board but I will
> >probably buy used.

> Do you want the track forward or back?
> --
> PeteCresswell

> What year did the manufacturers start moving back the mast track.  Was
> Starboard the first?

> Hi Peter,
> I'm not positive, but my educated guess would be right around
> 1998-1999.
> That's when the first shorter, but wider at the back, race slalom
> boards arrived (Starboard W75 flapper board was a good example but
> there were some other custom race boards that Ken Winner and Eric
> Voight designed) .
> Around 1999-2000 the width started moving back on a lot of production
> boards, but I'm not sure that Starboard was first to do this.
> Previously (around 1992-1995) we had the "no nose" era and the mast
> slots seemed to move a little to the back, but not as far as the modern
> 2000 and later boards.
> Mast slot position moved back more quickly with the introduction of the
> Starboard Formula 155 (1999-2000) as the width and volume suddenly was
> well behind the mast foot.
> As mast track position in boards changed sails began to change as well
> to suit the newer design boards.
> What board do you have, and what are you thinking of replacing it with?
> Starboard was amoung the first to introduce shorter wider at the back
> slalom boards (the early Carve boards) so they were probably amoung the
> first to really embrace the width back, new rockerline concepts that
> make the shorter slalom boards work.
> Hope this helps,

> > What year did the manufacturers start moving back the mast track.  Was
> > Starboard the first?

> Which came first the chicken or the egg?  Actually, I think the boards
> changed to fit better with the loose leech technology in sails.  The
> luff sleeves also became tighter so mast diameters shrank, didn't they?
> I think, though, that the mast tracks were brought back in the early
> 90's  I used to own a glass board from the late 80's.  When I compared
> it to three boards I have from around '93-'96, the track was seriously
> set forward.  However, the back position on the old board did line up
> with the forward on the early '90's boards as I remember.  Since long
> adjustable mast tracks were introduced and popular in that era, they
> could accomodate both old and new sails.  You may want to find out when
> the first loose leech was developed and who was responsible.  This
> innovation was slow to be adapted by all sailmakers so there's an
> overlap in dates. The mini-batten didn't become common until after the
> loose leech had been in regular use.  It's rather easy to pick out the
> mini-battens to identify a sail cut for a lot of downhaul.  However,
> you can't put a lot of downhaul in many sails that don't have the
> mini's and optain a loose leech.  Some you can.  I met a guy one the
> beach once who had been sold a downhaul crank so that he could loosen a
> leech on sails that didn't have the feature as part of their design.
> Duh?

>> Hi Peter,
>> I'm not positive, but my educated guess would be right around
>> 1998-1999.
>> That's when the first shorter, but wider at the back, race slalom
>> boards arrived (Starboard W75 flapper board was a good example but
>> there were some other custom race boards that Ken Winner and Eric
>> Voight designed) .
>> Around 1999-2000 the width started moving back on a lot of production
>> boards, but I'm not sure that Starboard was first to do this.
>> Previously (around 1992-1995) we had the "no nose" era and the mast
>> slots seemed to move a little to the back, but not as far as the modern
>> 2000 and later boards.
>> Mast slot position moved back more quickly with the introduction of the
>> Starboard Formula 155 (1999-2000) as the width and volume suddenly was
>> well behind the mast foot.
>> As mast track position in boards changed sails began to change as well
>> to suit the newer design boards.
>> What board do you have, and what are you thinking of replacing it with?
>> Starboard was amoung the first to introduce shorter wider at the back
>> slalom boards (the early Carve boards) so they were probably amoung the
>> first to really embrace the width back, new rockerline concepts that
>> make the shorter slalom boards work.
>> Hope this helps,

>> > What year did the manufacturers start moving back the mast track.  Was
>> > Starboard the first?

>Sails became more stable, part of the physics required for this moved the
>COE farther forward in the sail, and since it didn't shift back as easily,
>the mast track could be moved back farther.  This unwets the board better,
>and viola, less friction and more speed.  Seems like this happened around
>the early
>to mid 90s.  The sails came first.

> and viola, less friction and more speed.

> So, although there's probably a conflict between an old sail and a new board,
> there shouldn't be any problem using a new sail on a really-old board?
> --
> PeteCresswell

>> and viola, less friction and more speed.

> Sounds like the punch line to a musician's joke.
> ;-)

> Florian

> Per Craig Goudie:
>>Sails became more stable, part of the physics required for this moved the
>>COE farther forward in the sail, and since it didn't shift back as easily,
>>the mast track could be moved back farther.  This unwets the board better,
>>and viola, less friction and more speed.  Seems like this happened around
>>the early
>>to mid 90s.  The sails came first.

> So, although there's probably a conflict between an old sail and a new
> board,
> there shouldn't be any problem using a new sail on a really-old board?
> --
> PeteCresswell