Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by Justi » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:22:01


I launched at 2:30 pm  on Superbowl Sunday February 5 at Sugar Cove (my
backyard)  with my Bay Area buddy Igor on a 5.8 Neilpryde NR and a
Mistral Beast 85.

Notice the forecast from Sunday night:
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/pages/SRF.php
 700 PM HST SUN FEB 5 2006
A HIGH SURF WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH AND WEST FACING SHORES
Surf along north facing shores will decline overnight to heights of 20
to 25 feet Monday.
Note the report says -- decline to 20 to 25 feet. It was maybe 30 feet
at Spartan reef on Sunday. I took a big wave, first of the day. I rode
it for a while, and then it closed out. I tried to outrun it, but it
caught me and ripped my gear away. I'm about a mile from shore.

I come out of the spin cycle and I see my board pop up 20 feet
downwind. And I notice that there is no sail!  Yikes! I was planning to
get my new equipment a few months earlier and I knew my universal was
worn. I think "so what, I planned to get a new rig next week; the rig
is at the bottom of the sea. I got to get my new board to make it to
shore! Oh, if I had only replaced my worn universal."

I start swimming for the board. I've never had the sail detach, so I
didn't know how fast the board could get away from me. Another wave
came crashing down on me, and my board pops up farther away. Ok, I've
got to swim fast for the board, or I'm in real deep shit. Another wave
comes, and when I come up, I can't see my board. I'm thinking "Ok,
don't panic. You swim in the ocean all the time. The ocean is your
friend." There are no other windsurfers or anybody in the whole ocean
as I can tell! Igor was with me, but he ended going in, maybe because
the wind was light. Nobody can hear me scream, and nobody can see me. I
swim for the shore. I'm aware that if I swim against a current, I could
tire myself out and drown. But I'm so far from shore I can't tell if a
rip is pulling me away from shore, and there are 30 foot waves breaking
a 100 yards out in deeper water. I start swimming for baby beach, but
it seems that I'm not making progress. So I swim toward Sugar Cove,
which is much farther. I really thinking that there is a chance I won't
be able to swim to shore. I start wondering how long I can stay out in
the ocean, especially with the waves and currents. I try to stay calm
and keep swimming. Eventually, I see a lone windsurfer downwind off of
the Spreckelsville launch, maybe 500 yards downwind and toward the
beach from me. Luckily, the guy sees me. At this point, I'm maybe 300
yards from shore. I could probably have swam the rest, but I was so
happy to touch that sailboard and know that I wouldn't die today. The
guy, an intermediate from Holland, tried to tow me. He had difficulty,
so I offered to tow him. I sailed the two of us most of the way to
shore, and then traded with the other guy. I was really tired at this
point. We soon landed on the beach. I was so happy to be alive.

I walked up the beach, and flagged down Igor, who went back out
sailing. If Igor had not went into the beach at the time I was drifting
back, he probably would have seen me. I then ran into Tom Cherry, who
advised me to drive to Camp One and Kanaha looking for the board.

Igor told me that he never saw me go down, and that he thought I was
still out at the upper reef, when in fact somebody else had launched.

After a hot shower, I jumped in my truck. No luck when I drove up to
Camp One. I then got to Kanaha at about 6pm, at the lower reef parking
lot by the lifeguard tower. The first guy I asked about a lost
sailboard hadn't heard anything. I then asked the next guy (I believe
Dave Ezzy) and he said "Yeah, some board washed up on the beach 30
minutes ago." I ran down to the beach, and to my pleasant surprise,
there was my new Mistral Beast, which was pulled in from the lineup at
Kanaha at about 5:30pm, about 2 and a half hours after I lost the
board.

A guy named Axel towed it in. I then talked to Glenn Hasseldorf from
Hot sails. He told me that they were wondering if they should call the
coast guard if nobody showed up for the board by sunset.

Boy, did I feel luck today.

I'm definitely going to do the following:

1. Put my name on my equipment, in case it washes up. That way, the
guys that found my board could have called me before calling the coast
guard.

2. Maybe get  a  marine radio, and flares, if I'm going to sail at
Spartan when it's big. Just having a friend sail with you isn't good
enough.

I guess I proved that I  can  swim to shore for two hours, but I never
want to that again!

The next day, I chatted with the lifeguards at Baldwin. If an accident
ever happens at outer sprecks, a sailor can sail into Baldwin, and the
lifeguards will take out the ski to help a distressed sailor.

The lifeguard also said that they would immediately respond to a flare.

QUESTION:
Does anybody have any advice on purchasing either a marine radio or
flares--what products and from where--and what is the best way to attch
them to one's harness?

Aloha,

Justin

 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by WARDO » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:47:33

Quote:

> I then talked to Glenn Hasseldorf from
>> Hot sails.

Justin,
Dood...
It's not Hasseldorf of Die Hard fame:
http://new.wavlist.com/movies/224/dh-helsinki.wav

Nor, is it Hasselhoff:
http://www.ariped.com/images/hasselhoff.png

It's Haslbeck...;-)
http://www.surfingsports.com/glenn_haslbeck/index.html
http://www.surfingsports.com/maui_windsurf/slides/hot_glenn_back.jpg
http://www.surfingsports.com/maui_windsurf/slides/hot_glenn_back2.jpg
http://www.surfingsports.com/maui_reef_action/slides/maui_glenn_back.jpg
http://www.surfingsports.com/maui_reef_action/slides/maui_glenn_so_ba...

 > I'm definitely going to do the following:

Replace the worn universal?...
Howz your inhaul line?...;-)

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com

Quote:
> I launched at 2:30 pm  on Superbowl Sunday February 5 at Sugar Cove (my
> backyard)  with my Bay Area buddy Igor on a 5.8 Neilpryde NR and a
> Mistral Beast 85.

> Notice the forecast from Sunday night:
> http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/pages/SRF.php
>  700 PM HST SUN FEB 5 2006
> A HIGH SURF WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH AND WEST FACING SHORES
> Surf along north facing shores will decline overnight to heights of 20
> to 25 feet Monday.
> Note the report says -- decline to 20 to 25 feet. It was maybe 30 feet
> at Spartan reef on Sunday. I took a big wave, first of the day. I rode
> it for a while, and then it closed out. I tried to outrun it, but it
> caught me and ripped my gear away. I'm about a mile from shore.

> I come out of the spin cycle and I see my board pop up 20 feet
> downwind. And I notice that there is no sail!  Yikes! I was planning to
> get my new equipment a few months earlier and I knew my universal was
> worn. I think "so what, I planned to get a new rig next week; the rig
> is at the bottom of the sea. I got to get my new board to make it to
> shore! Oh, if I had only replaced my worn universal."

> I start swimming for the board. I've never had the sail detach, so I
> didn't know how fast the board could get away from me. Another wave
> came crashing down on me, and my board pops up farther away. Ok, I've
> got to swim fast for the board, or I'm in real deep shit. Another wave
> comes, and when I come up, I can't see my board. I'm thinking "Ok,
> don't panic. You swim in the ocean all the time. The ocean is your
> friend." There are no other windsurfers or anybody in the whole ocean
> as I can tell! Igor was with me, but he ended going in, maybe because
> the wind was light. Nobody can hear me scream, and nobody can see me. I
> swim for the shore. I'm aware that if I swim against a current, I could
> tire myself out and drown. But I'm so far from shore I can't tell if a
> rip is pulling me away from shore, and there are 30 foot waves breaking
> a 100 yards out in deeper water. I start swimming for baby beach, but
> it seems that I'm not making progress. So I swim toward Sugar Cove,
> which is much farther. I really thinking that there is a chance I won't
> be able to swim to shore. I start wondering how long I can stay out in
> the ocean, especially with the waves and currents. I try to stay calm
> and keep swimming. Eventually, I see a lone windsurfer downwind off of
> the Spreckelsville launch, maybe 500 yards downwind and toward the
> beach from me. Luckily, the guy sees me. At this point, I'm maybe 300
> yards from shore. I could probably have swam the rest, but I was so
> happy to touch that sailboard and know that I wouldn't die today. The
> guy, an intermediate from Holland, tried to tow me. He had difficulty,
> so I offered to tow him. I sailed the two of us most of the way to
> shore, and then traded with the other guy. I was really tired at this
> point. We soon landed on the beach. I was so happy to be alive.

> I walked up the beach, and flagged down Igor, who went back out
> sailing. If Igor had not went into the beach at the time I was drifting
> back, he probably would have seen me. I then ran into Tom Cherry, who
> advised me to drive to Camp One and Kanaha looking for the board.

> Igor told me that he never saw me go down, and that he thought I was
> still out at the upper reef, when in fact somebody else had launched.

> After a hot shower, I jumped in my truck. No luck when I drove up to
> Camp One. I then got to Kanaha at about 6pm, at the lower reef parking
> lot by the lifeguard tower. The first guy I asked about a lost
> sailboard hadn't heard anything. I then asked the next guy (I believe
> Dave Ezzy) and he said "Yeah, some board washed up on the beach 30
> minutes ago." I ran down to the beach, and to my pleasant surprise,
> there was my new Mistral Beast, which was pulled in from the lineup at
> Kanaha at about 5:30pm, about 2 and a half hours after I lost the
> board.

> A guy named Axel towed it in. I then talked to Glenn Hasseldorf from
> Hot sails. He told me that they were wondering if they should call the
> coast guard if nobody showed up for the board by sunset.

> Boy, did I feel luck today.

> I'm definitely going to do the following:

> 1. Put my name on my equipment, in case it washes up. That way, the
> guys that found my board could have called me before calling the coast
> guard.

> 2. Maybe get  a  marine radio, and flares, if I'm going to sail at
> Spartan when it's big. Just having a friend sail with you isn't good
> enough.

> I guess I proved that I  can  swim to shore for two hours, but I never
> want to that again!

> The next day, I chatted with the lifeguards at Baldwin. If an accident
> ever happens at outer sprecks, a sailor can sail into Baldwin, and the
> lifeguards will take out the ski to help a distressed sailor.

> The lifeguard also said that they would immediately respond to a flare.

> QUESTION:
> Does anybody have any advice on purchasing either a marine radio or
> flares--what products and from where--and what is the best way to attch
> them to one's harness?

> Aloha,

> Justin


 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by zephy » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:00:00

Wow,

quite the "adventure" glad you made it thru okay, and as a bonus, got your
board back.
as if we needed another reminder to play safe.  Glad you are still ticking.

Dave


Quote:
>I launched at 2:30 pm  on Superbowl Sunday February 5 at Sugar Cove (my
> backyard)  with my Bay Area buddy Igor on a 5.8 Neilpryde NR and a
> Mistral Beast 85.

> Notice the forecast from Sunday night:
> http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/pages/SRF.php
> 700 PM HST SUN FEB 5 2006
> A HIGH SURF WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH AND WEST FACING SHORES
> Surf along north facing shores will decline overnight to heights of 20
> to 25 feet Monday.
> Note the report says -- decline to 20 to 25 feet. It was maybe 30 feet
> at Spartan reef on Sunday. I took a big wave, first of the day. I rode
> it for a while, and then it closed out. I tried to outrun it, but it
> caught me and ripped my gear away. I'm about a mile from shore.

> I come out of the spin cycle and I see my board pop up 20 feet
> downwind. And I notice that there is no sail!  Yikes! I was planning to
> get my new equipment a few months earlier and I knew my universal was
> worn. I think "so what, I planned to get a new rig next week; the rig
> is at the bottom of the sea. I got to get my new board to make it to
> shore! Oh, if I had only replaced my worn universal."

> I start swimming for the board. I've never had the sail detach, so I
> didn't know how fast the board could get away from me. Another wave
> came crashing down on me, and my board pops up farther away. Ok, I've
> got to swim fast for the board, or I'm in real deep shit. Another wave
> comes, and when I come up, I can't see my board. I'm thinking "Ok,
> don't panic. You swim in the ocean all the time. The ocean is your
> friend." There are no other windsurfers or anybody in the whole ocean
> as I can tell! Igor was with me, but he ended going in, maybe because
> the wind was light. Nobody can hear me scream, and nobody can see me. I
> swim for the shore. I'm aware that if I swim against a current, I could
> tire myself out and drown. But I'm so far from shore I can't tell if a
> rip is pulling me away from shore, and there are 30 foot waves breaking
> a 100 yards out in deeper water. I start swimming for baby beach, but
> it seems that I'm not making progress. So I swim toward Sugar Cove,
> which is much farther. I really thinking that there is a chance I won't
> be able to swim to shore. I start wondering how long I can stay out in
> the ocean, especially with the waves and currents. I try to stay calm
> and keep swimming. Eventually, I see a lone windsurfer downwind off of
> the Spreckelsville launch, maybe 500 yards downwind and toward the
> beach from me. Luckily, the guy sees me. At this point, I'm maybe 300
> yards from shore. I could probably have swam the rest, but I was so
> happy to touch that sailboard and know that I wouldn't die today. The
> guy, an intermediate from Holland, tried to tow me. He had difficulty,
> so I offered to tow him. I sailed the two of us most of the way to
> shore, and then traded with the other guy. I was really tired at this
> point. We soon landed on the beach. I was so happy to be alive.

> I walked up the beach, and flagged down Igor, who went back out
> sailing. If Igor had not went into the beach at the time I was drifting
> back, he probably would have seen me. I then ran into Tom Cherry, who
> advised me to drive to Camp One and Kanaha looking for the board.

> Igor told me that he never saw me go down, and that he thought I was
> still out at the upper reef, when in fact somebody else had launched.

> After a hot shower, I jumped in my truck. No luck when I drove up to
> Camp One. I then got to Kanaha at about 6pm, at the lower reef parking
> lot by the lifeguard tower. The first guy I asked about a lost
> sailboard hadn't heard anything. I then asked the next guy (I believe
> Dave Ezzy) and he said "Yeah, some board washed up on the beach 30
> minutes ago." I ran down to the beach, and to my pleasant surprise,
> there was my new Mistral Beast, which was pulled in from the lineup at
> Kanaha at about 5:30pm, about 2 and a half hours after I lost the
> board.

> A guy named Axel towed it in. I then talked to Glenn Hasseldorf from
> Hot sails. He told me that they were wondering if they should call the
> coast guard if nobody showed up for the board by sunset.

> Boy, did I feel luck today.

> I'm definitely going to do the following:

> 1. Put my name on my equipment, in case it washes up. That way, the
> guys that found my board could have called me before calling the coast
> guard.

> 2. Maybe get  a  marine radio, and flares, if I'm going to sail at
> Spartan when it's big. Just having a friend sail with you isn't good
> enough.

> I guess I proved that I  can  swim to shore for two hours, but I never
> want to that again!

> The next day, I chatted with the lifeguards at Baldwin. If an accident
> ever happens at outer sprecks, a sailor can sail into Baldwin, and the
> lifeguards will take out the ski to help a distressed sailor.

> The lifeguard also said that they would immediately respond to a flare.

> QUESTION:
> Does anybody have any advice on purchasing either a marine radio or
> flares--what products and from where--and what is the best way to attch
> them to one's harness?

> Aloha,

> Justin


 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by Dan Weis » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:52:04

Justin:  Similar story from days gone by.  I broke an old (1986)
Mistral uni pin about a mile off Sprecks on a cloudbreak reef.  F'n
scariest thing ever.  Going down the face, hit some chop and next thing
I know I'm holding my rig as the board kicks out from under me and
shoots off into never never land.  I take the wave directly on the
head, still holding the rig and around I go.  After what seemed like
several eternities I catch a break in the sets.  My rig is floating
nearby and apparently unscathed (Ampro Gray Wave and Simmer something
or other) but my board is nowhere to be seen.  The mast is tightly
plugged and the only thing other than my harness that I figured would
offer any floatation.  I derig and dump the booms and sail so as to use
the mast for some assistance.  I have no idea where my board is so I
just start dog-paddling my mast towards Camp One, hoping not to get
dragged across some reef for good measure.  Nobody saw me, or so I
thought.  About 45 minutes of going nowhere and getting ever more
convinced of my affection for God, a woman sails up with my board
dragging behind her!  She then sails off to who knows where and comes
back with my sail and booms, with the extension tied to the sail.  She
sails around in the swell while I re-rig and try to sail downwind
without a uni.  I made it to Kanaha without much hassle all things
considered.  To this day I have no idea who she was, but her help
certainly made my day.

You never know when it can happen to you!

Glad you made it back to the beach.

-Dan

 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by shredulat » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:20:04

     Wow   a timely topic. my buddy and me are going to maui in april
and i was thinking about how to sail more safely, when i go .
  Reason,  he told me a story of his last visit, sailing well outside
the reef at kanaha, he  hits a big swell comes down with rig and board
separated . Single pin mastbase parted ways with the board .
Now  this guy he checks his kit over big time so simple issue of
somehow the base spinning off becomes big trouble.
   So there he is bobbing in the drink , no PFT in blue water way out
with his rig ,the board is gonzo. I think he ditched the rig and tried
swimming for  the board and may have lost both i dunno . he didnt want
to talk about it much.
   Point is he is way outside and its the end of the day.
  After swimming for awhile getting fatigued and thinking that this is
it, some woman sails up ( god bless the sailing wahines)gets the
lifeguard and jetski.
 This was 2 years ago, and he never told me till a few months ago it
shook him up that much..
 so i am going to buy flares when i get to maui and attach them to my
harness and or wear and old mistral chest harness i have that has a
mesh bag on the back and put them in there . Check my gear like crazy,
freqeuntly while coming in for breaks. And use a twin pin mast base .
I am trying to take less chances. Going out on the the ocean there is
always a "chance" things will happen no matter what you do.
 sailing kihei years back between me and a buddy ( another bloke) we
broke three alloy booms in a single day just blasting around , no
jumping. We are both about 190 lbs and it was blowing. All breakages
way out side , half way to Maalaea harbour.  We declined mother natures
 free trip to Tahiti passing including tin the package a  molokini and
Kahoolawee scenic float by tour and were , luckily,  able to flip the
rigs over and sail back with half a boom, can be done....... thank God.

they made ( well requested )him pay 40 bucks for the second one he
broke i wont say who,........... even with insurance. gosh darn salt
water and aluminum.
Shred

 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by Alan » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:25:06

I've become so paranoid about my rig coming apart, or me getting bumped on
the head, that I try never to sail beyond the distance I can swim, unless
I'm with a buddy.

Alan

--
Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org


Quote:
>      Wow   a timely topic. my buddy and me are going to maui in april
> and i was thinking about how to sail more safely, when i go .
>   Reason,  he told me a story of his last visit, sailing well outside
> the reef at kanaha, he  hits a big swell comes down with rig and board
> separated . Single pin mastbase parted ways with the board .
> Now  this guy he checks his kit over big time so simple issue of
> somehow the base spinning off becomes big trouble.
>    So there he is bobbing in the drink , no PFT in blue water way out
> with his rig ,the board is gonzo. I think he ditched the rig and tried
> swimming for  the board and may have lost both i dunno . he didnt want
> to talk about it much.
>    Point is he is way outside and its the end of the day.
>   After swimming for awhile getting fatigued and thinking that this is
> it, some woman sails up ( god bless the sailing wahines)gets the
> lifeguard and jetski.
>  This was 2 years ago, and he never told me till a few months ago it
> shook him up that much..
>  so i am going to buy flares when i get to maui and attach them to my
> harness and or wear and old mistral chest harness i have that has a
> mesh bag on the back and put them in there . Check my gear like crazy,
> freqeuntly while coming in for breaks. And use a twin pin mast base .
> I am trying to take less chances. Going out on the the ocean there is
> always a "chance" things will happen no matter what you do.
>  sailing kihei years back between me and a buddy ( another bloke) we
> broke three alloy booms in a single day just blasting around , no
> jumping. We are both about 190 lbs and it was blowing. All breakages
> way out side , half way to Maalaea harbour.  We declined mother natures
>  free trip to Tahiti passing including tin the package a  molokini and
> Kahoolawee scenic float by tour and were , luckily,  able to flip the
> rigs over and sail back with half a boom, can be done....... thank God.

> they made ( well requested )him pay 40 bucks for the second one he
> broke i wont say who,........... even with insurance. gosh darn salt
> water and aluminum.
> Shred

 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by Rigaton » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:35:25

West Marine is a good place to buy a marine radio.They warrant the
things for three years, which you will use.

A couple of things:
1) Make sure you buy a radio that is rated "submersible."
2) Make sure you buy a waterproof pouch for the radio.  The West Marine
case is garbage.  There is a british company called Aquapac that make
the best cases and you don't have to take the radio out of the pouch to
talk.
3) If you feel like spending a little more, they make a small
submersible that is like the size of a pack of cigarettes.
4) I keep the radio around my neck under my wetsuit, which is probably
not feasbile in Hawaii.  DaKine and Windsurfing Hawaii both make safety
pouches that can attach to your harness.

Hope that helps.  Say hi to Igor.  He hasn't been missing much in Tahoe
this year.

CHris

 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by WARDO » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:40:53

Quote:

> I've become so paranoid about my rig coming apart, or me getting bumped on
> the head, that I try never to sail beyond the distance I can swim, unless
> I'm with a buddy.

Dood...
I thought that you were over it...the mental part...

p.s. Howz the contest planning for D'Port going?...;-)

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com

Quote:

> Alan

> --
> Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org



>>     Wow   a timely topic. my buddy and me are going to maui in april
>>and i was thinking about how to sail more safely, when i go .
>>  Reason,  he told me a story of his last visit, sailing well outside
>>the reef at kanaha, he  hits a big swell comes down with rig and board
>>separated . Single pin mastbase parted ways with the board .
>>Now  this guy he checks his kit over big time so simple issue of
>>somehow the base spinning off becomes big trouble.
>>   So there he is bobbing in the drink , no PFT in blue water way out
>>with his rig ,the board is gonzo. I think he ditched the rig and tried
>>swimming for  the board and may have lost both i dunno . he didnt want
>>to talk about it much.
>>   Point is he is way outside and its the end of the day.
>>  After swimming for awhile getting fatigued and thinking that this is
>>it, some woman sails up ( god bless the sailing wahines)gets the
>>lifeguard and jetski.
>> This was 2 years ago, and he never told me till a few months ago it
>>shook him up that much..
>> so i am going to buy flares when i get to maui and attach them to my
>>harness and or wear and old mistral chest harness i have that has a
>>mesh bag on the back and put them in there . Check my gear like crazy,
>>freqeuntly while coming in for breaks. And use a twin pin mast base .
>>I am trying to take less chances. Going out on the the ocean there is
>>always a "chance" things will happen no matter what you do.
>> sailing kihei years back between me and a buddy ( another bloke) we
>>broke three alloy booms in a single day just blasting around , no
>>jumping. We are both about 190 lbs and it was blowing. All breakages
>>way out side , half way to Maalaea harbour.  We declined mother natures
>> free trip to Tahiti passing including tin the package a  molokini and
>>Kahoolawee scenic float by tour and were , luckily,  able to flip the
>>rigs over and sail back with half a boom, can be done....... thank God.

>>they made ( well requested )him pay 40 bucks for the second one he
>>broke i wont say who,........... even with insurance. gosh darn salt
>>water and aluminum.
>>Shred

 
 
 

Breakdown Superbowl Sunday February 5 Outer Reef Maui

Post by WARDO » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:36:50

Quote:

> Single pin mastbase parted ways with the board .
>> Now  this guy he checks his kit over big time so simple issue of
>> somehow the base spinning off becomes big trouble.
> use a twin pin mast base .
> I am trying to take less chances. Going out on the the ocean there is
> always a "chance" things will happen no matter what you do.

Hey Shred,
Tendons still break...and both styles still have a single bolt in their
systems...and I've had rig separations using two-bolt systems...

On your buddies single bolt foot...do you know if it was an "on-center"
foot or not?
If it has the bolt off-center, they have a propensity to spin themselves
loose...also, some people don't use a pressure plate when they should...
It's also possible to strip the nut over time...

The best theory is to at least alternate between two
feet...theoretically extending the time to failure by twice...obviously,
a catastrophic size wave can simply rip the mast track out...

We rescued two sailors last Spring with sheared tendons...both
hypothermic...both coming off of the Winter layoff for a big Spring
blow...this is totally avoidable by being proactive with your
inspection/replacement schedule...

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com

Quote:
>      Wow   a timely topic. my buddy and me are going to maui in april
> and i was thinking about how to sail more safely, when i go .
>   Reason,  he told me a story of his last visit, sailing well outside
> the reef at kanaha, he  hits a big swell comes down with rig and board
> separated . Single pin mastbase parted ways with the board .
> Now  this guy he checks his kit over big time so simple issue of
> somehow the base spinning off becomes big trouble.
>    So there he is bobbing in the drink , no PFT in blue water way out
> with his rig ,the board is gonzo. I think he ditched the rig and tried
> swimming for  the board and may have lost both i dunno . he didnt want
> to talk about it much.
>    Point is he is way outside and its the end of the day.
>   After swimming for awhile getting fatigued and thinking that this is
> it, some woman sails up ( god bless the sailing wahines)gets the
> lifeguard and jetski.
>  This was 2 years ago, and he never told me till a few months ago it
> shook him up that much..
>  so i am going to buy flares when i get to maui and attach them to my
> harness and or wear and old mistral chest harness i have that has a
> mesh bag on the back and put them in there . Check my gear like crazy,
> freqeuntly while coming in for breaks. And use a twin pin mast base .
> I am trying to take less chances. Going out on the the ocean there is
> always a "chance" things will happen no matter what you do.
>  sailing kihei years back between me and a buddy ( another bloke) we
> broke three alloy booms in a single day just blasting around , no
> jumping. We are both about 190 lbs and it was blowing. All breakages
> way out side , half way to Maalaea harbour.  We declined mother natures
>  free trip to Tahiti passing including tin the package a  molokini and
> Kahoolawee scenic float by tour and were , luckily,  able to flip the
> rigs over and sail back with half a boom, can be done....... thank God.

> they made ( well requested )him pay 40 bucks for the second one he
> broke i wont say who,........... even with insurance. gosh darn salt
> water and aluminum.
> Shred

 
 
 

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Post by brad » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:18:42

I have the uniden voyager, which is touted as the worldest smallest vhf
handheld. I got it off ebay for like 90 buys, it was new but opened
package. I wear in on a marlow-necklace under my wetsuit just like chris--
however I've been just going without the waterproof pouch and it seems
fine. I always carry a few gallons of water with me so I just rinse it
off when I take off my wetsuit and no problems so far. Before I put it
on, I turn it on to make sure it works and it is set to 16 or 9 (
emergency channels, even though there is 'quick ch16 button') and then
turn it back off. I've been tempted to 'test it' out on the water to see
if I could hail the coast guard, but not sure they would appreciate my
chatter (anyone know if this is OK? or if there is like a standard
callout that the coast guard will respond to if they arent busy?). I
probably only use it 1/2 of my sailing days, only when I will be too far
to swim or strong current. I do fall in a lot.. so it definitely gets
wet. Also, I think if it was in a harness pouch it would be even better
off (sand wise?) than wetsuit. It also picks up marine weather forecast
if you are camping and/or dont have IWS access. At first I was skeptical
about wearing under my suit, but I dont notice it at all. I guess if I
fell on it, it would hurt my board but then so would my harness hook.

brad



Quote:
> West Marine is a good place to buy a marine radio.They warrant the
> things for three years, which you will use.

> A couple of things:
> 1) Make sure you buy a radio that is rated "submersible."
> 2) Make sure you buy a waterproof pouch for the radio.  The West
> Marine case is garbage.  There is a british company called Aquapac
> that make the best cases and you don't have to take the radio out of
> the pouch to talk. 3) If you feel like spending a little more, they
> make a small submersible that is like the size of a pack of cigarettes.
> 4) I keep the radio around my neck under my wetsuit, which is probably
> not feasbile in Hawaii.  DaKine and Windsurfing Hawaii both make
> safety pouches that can attach to your harness.

> Hope that helps.  Say hi to Igor.  He hasn't been missing much in
> Tahoe this year.

> CHris

 
 
 

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Post by WARDO » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:56:45

Use Channel 9 or 68 for radio checks...
See 2b. below...

Quote:

> Before I put it
>> on, I turn it on to make sure it works and it is set to 16 or 9 (
>> emergency channels, even though there is 'quick ch16 button') and then
>> turn it back off. I've been tempted to 'test it' out on the water to see
>> if I could hail the coast guard, but not sure they would appreciate my
>> chatter (anyone know if this is OK? or if there is like a standard
>> callout that the coast guard will respond to if they arent busy?).

http://www.uscg.mil/d11/dp/dpw/specialNTM/spec3_04.pdf

2) CHANNEL 16 (156.8 MHz) This is the international VHF-FM
radiotelephone distress, safety and calling frequency used for distress
and urgent traffic, safety signals, marine information broadcasts, and
general calling and reply. After the preliminary call to establish
communications, mariners should shift as soon as possible to an
appropriate working frequency. In order to facilitate the reception of
distress traffic, all transmissions should be kept to an absolute
minimum and must not exceed one minute.

a) Channel 16 Call-Up Procedure

1) Call up the vessel you are attempting to contact using the vessel's
name. The name is spoken twice.
2) Next, send the name of your vessel and call sign spoken twice
prefaced by the phrase: this is.
3) End the call-up by saying, "channel 16, over."
4) When the vessel being called answers, shift to an agreed upon channel.

b) NO RADIO CHECKS ON CHANNEL 16

A Federal Communications Commission ruling prohibits boaters from using
Channel 16 for non-emergency radio checks. Do not ask for or respond to
a radio check on channel 16.

UNDERSTAND AND FOLLOW THESE PROCEDURES AT ALL TIMES

1. Use Channel 16 for Distress and Hailing only.

2. Keep all calling on Channel 16 to an absolute minimum.

3. It is illegal to use Channel 16 for Radio Checks.

4. LISTEN before transmitting--don't interfere with other stations' calls.

5. Don't call Marine Operators on Channel 16. Use working channels.

6. Children should be taught how to operate a radio in case of emergency.

7. Children should also be taught that a RADIO IS NOT A TOY!

8. Use LOW POWER as often as possible.

9. NO unnecessary communications are permitted on VHF.

10. Never use a Telephone Credit Card on your VHF-- others can hear your
number. Use a Marine Telephone Identification Number (MIN).

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com

Quote:
> I have the uniden voyager, which is touted as the worldest smallest vhf
> handheld. I got it off ebay for like 90 buys, it was new but opened
> package. I wear in on a marlow-necklace under my wetsuit just like chris--
> however I've been just going without the waterproof pouch and it seems
> fine. I always carry a few gallons of water with me so I just rinse it
> off when I take off my wetsuit and no problems so far. Before I put it
> on, I turn it on to make sure it works and it is set to 16 or 9 (
> emergency channels, even though there is 'quick ch16 button') and then
> turn it back off. I've been tempted to 'test it' out on the water to see
> if I could hail the coast guard, but not sure they would appreciate my
> chatter (anyone know if this is OK? or if there is like a standard
> callout that the coast guard will respond to if they arent busy?). I
> probably only use it 1/2 of my sailing days, only when I will be too far
> to swim or strong current. I do fall in a lot.. so it definitely gets
> wet. Also, I think if it was in a harness pouch it would be even better
> off (sand wise?) than wetsuit. It also picks up marine weather forecast
> if you are camping and/or dont have IWS access. At first I was skeptical
> about wearing under my suit, but I dont notice it at all. I guess if I
> fell on it, it would hurt my board but then so would my harness hook.

> brad



>>West Marine is a good place to buy a marine radio.They warrant the
>>things for three years, which you will use.

>>A couple of things:
>>1) Make sure you buy a radio that is rated "submersible."
>>2) Make sure you buy a waterproof pouch for the radio.  The West
>>Marine case is garbage.  There is a british company called Aquapac
>>that make the best cases and you don't have to take the radio out of
>>the pouch to talk. 3) If you feel like spending a little more, they
>>make a small submersible that is like the size of a pack of cigarettes.
>>4) I keep the radio around my neck under my wetsuit, which is probably
>>not feasbile in Hawaii.  DaKine and Windsurfing Hawaii both make
>>safety pouches that can attach to your harness.

>>Hope that helps.  Say hi to Igor.  He hasn't been missing much in
>>Tahoe this year.

>>CHris

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Elliot » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:00:10

A good reason to swim to stay fit. I know sailors who bike, run, or do
nothing to stay in shape over the winter. None of that will do you any good
if you are a poor swimmer stuck a mile offshore. Rain, hail or sailable
wind won't prevent me from swimming every day.

Steve

 
 
 

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Post by LeeD » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:02:18

  I wonder....
  Can't hurt, of course.
  But I know great swimmers, guys who almost made AAU in college get in
trouble in rips, the waves, and the high chop because they couldn't use
their freestyle stroke, had a bad *** and side, and couldn't stay
afloat without expending energy.
 
 
 

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Post by Steve Elliot » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:35:34

Yeah, I can understand that. I swim usually 2700 yards in a pool each day.
Sometimes more. When I swim in the ocean I can freestyle but I have to
really look at the sky when breathing to keep from taking on salt. So it's
alot harder swim, and it messes with my rhythm. Against a tide would be
even worse. Maybe I should join the Dolphin Club :)

What do you mean by staying afloat without expending energy? Low body fat?

Steve


Quote:
>   I wonder....
>   Can't hurt, of course.
>   But I know great swimmers, guys who almost made AAU in college get in
> trouble in rips, the waves, and the high chop because they couldn't use
> their freestyle stroke, had a bad *** and side, and couldn't stay
> afloat without expending energy.

 
 
 

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Post by us08 » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:16:04

I also use the Uniden Voyager.  It is very compact and waterproof.  As
far as flares, Orion makes the Skyblazer which are small self contained
aerial flares.  There is no West Marine on Maui yet, there is one on
Oahu.  Check Valley Isle Marine in Wailuku for the flares.