Rentals in SF bay area

Rentals in SF bay area

Post by Steve Made » Wed, 12 Jun 1991 04:58:12


I tried to send this as mail to Kirk but it didn't work
so I am posting the question.  Anyone feel free to answer.

I am planning a weekend visit to SF next weekend
(June 14-18) to go windsurfing.

I am staying with a friend in Mountainview.
I was thinking about bringing my own equipment as
I really like the stuff but it will be kind of expensive
to transport.  I would have to buy a coffin bag for
~ $250 and pay $25 each way to check it on the plane.

Do you know of a place where I can rent REALLY GOOD
equipment on the bay at reasonable rates?  If the
rate is sky high ( >$50/day) then I'll just bring my
own stuff.

In addition, what are the chances that I'll get two
days of 5.0 weather at Coyote Pt?  Are there other
places that I should check out?  

I am quite competent with gybes and waterstarts
but I am sailing with a friend who sometimes has
trouble with starboard waterstarts and cannot
gybe at all.  He will need to rent equipment even
If I bring my own.   So a sailing spot with some
intermediate conditions, some adanced conditions,
and rental nearby would be optimal.

Will any of you folks be there?  Maybe we can meet
and be co-shredders.

Thanks in advance.
Steve Madere

 
 
 

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Post by Ken Poult » Wed, 12 Jun 1991 18:15:25

Quote:
> Do you know of a place where I can rent REALLY GOOD
> equipment on the bay at reasonable rates?  If the
> rate is sky high ( >$50/day) then I'll just bring my
> own stuff.

Demo rates for new boards run $30-40/day it seems; I've never
asked about sails.  The shops here are
    B&D, Redwood City
    Helm of Sun Valley, San Mateo   (near Coyote)
    Calif. Sailboards, San Mateo   (near Coyote)
    Windsurf Warehouse, So. San Francisco

Quote:
> In addition, what are the chances that I'll get two
> days of 5.0 weather at Coyote Pt?  Are there other
> places that I should check out?  

Pretty good.  The general summer pattern is 8-10 days of 4.5-5.5
and then 2-4 days dead.

Quote:
> I am quite competent with gybes and waterstarts
> but I am sailing with a friend who sometimes has
> trouble with starboard waterstarts and cannot
> gybe at all.  He will need to rent equipment even
> If I bring my own.   So a sailing spot with some
> intermediate conditions, some adanced conditions,
> and rental nearby would be optimal.

Coyote has less wind inside the cove and more (sometimes lots more)
as you go outside.  So you can kind of choose what you want.
It is onshore to side-onshore which makes it feel safe, but
gives it 1-2 foot chop.  The downside for your friend is that
it is a port beachstart and starboard waterstart to get back.
(As a result, my starboard waterstart is much better than port.)

I hear about 3rd Ave (a few miles south) but have never been there.
Candlestick has only advanced sailing.

Quote:
> Will any of you folks be there?  Maybe we can meet
> and be co-shredders.

Alas, I'll be in the (relatively windless) Sierras this weekend.

Ken "shred one for me" Poulton


 
 
 

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Post by Kirk Lindstr » Thu, 13 Jun 1991 02:27:21

I emailed you a responce with my home phone # (I won't post that type of
info on the net).  My e-mail address follows:

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PS  Did my memo get to you?  I've been having problems responding to authors
    via notes, this time I didn't get an error msg.

PSS  Shoreline in Mt View rents Mistral boards, but you have to use
     them at Shoreline.  [8-<

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Ka » Thu, 13 Jun 1991 04:24:44

I just re-read your note, and I am realizing that your
friend is pretty close to my ability level -- I can
waterstart O.K. in decent wind, but I can hardly Jibe
my F2 Strato.  I think Coyote Point may be a bit too
much of a challenge for him if he wants to get a full
weekend of sailing.  I have sailed Coyote Point a
couple of times on moderate ( < 20 knots) wind days.
I enjoyed the challenge, but I really felt as if I
merely survived it.  I certainly couldn't work on jibing
or planing in such heavy chop.

I usually sail at Shoreline (a small lake) or Palo Alto
Marina.  You might get bored at Shoreline, but Palo
Alto may be a good compromise.  It is on the Bay, has
moderate chop, and the wind is often around 20 knots.
You have to sail it when the tides are just right to
avoid a slog through the mud.  Lucky for you, high
tide will occur in the late afternoon during the days
you will be here.  If you decide to sail here, Any
Mountain in Cupertino will be a convenient place to rent.
If you want more information about this location, E-mail
me about it.  

Although I have never sailed there, I have read a
description of Berkeley Marina in Windfinder.  It
also sounds like a place that both you and your
friend can enjoy.  Maybe if you call Cal Sailboards
about demo's they can give you some information about
sailing at Berkeley.

Mike Katz

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Ka » Thu, 13 Jun 1991 03:27:32

Depending on how far you are willing to drive, there
are a few places you might consider renting equipment.

Any Mountain Sports in Cupertino carries a full line of
Bic, Seatrend and Fanatic boards, and they claim they
will rent any of their models.  The board-only rate is
about $35/day.  I don't recall how much more it costs
to get a rig with it.  The only problem is that it is
pretty far from the Bay locations you are likely to sail.
(Probably 45 minutes from Coyote Point)

Near Coyote Point, there are three shops which demo
boards, all for about $40/day.  California Sailboards
in San Mateo, which specializes in Mistral and Fanatic,
Helm of Sun Valley in San Mateo (When I asked them a
couple weeks ago, they were not sure which boards they
would have availiable for demo's), and Windsurf Warehouse
in South San Francisco (Seatrend, Hi-Tech, Tiga, F2).
California Sailboards also has a store on the other side
of the bay (Berkeley, I think) which sometimes has free
demo days.

Of these stores, I think Cal Sailboards would probably be
most pleasant place to demo -- Their high prices drive
away most people who are thinking of actually buying a
board, so it has a quiet and relaxed atmosphere.  On the
other hand, Windsurf Warehouse has a great selection and
low prices, making for rushed and sometimes less-than-
helpful salespeople.

Good luck,

Mike Katz

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Alber » Thu, 13 Jun 1991 22:28:29

 (Michael Katz) /  1:24 pm  Jun 11, 1991 /

Quote:
>Although I have never sailed there, I have read a
>description of Berkeley Marina in Windfinder.  It
>also sounds like a place that both you and your
>friend can enjoy.  Maybe if you call Cal Sailboards
>about demo's they can give you some information about
>sailing at Berkeley.

    My experience at Berkeley prompts me to advise otherwise.  It seemed
    more expert than Coyote.  The launch is from a boat dock!  You have to
    put your board in the water, and then sit on the dock and transfer to
    your board.  The winds were strong, the chop was significant.  I think
    I have sailed there twice - don't recall for sure.  Maybe I missed the
    beginner area.

    tom.

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Ka » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 23:59:36


 (Michael Katz) /  1:24 pm  Jun 11, 1991 /

Quote:
>Although I have never sailed there, I have read a
>description of Berkeley Marina in Windfinder.  It
>also sounds like a place that both you and your
>friend can enjoy.  Maybe if you call Cal Sailboards
>about demo's they can give you some information about
>sailing at Berkeley.
>    My experience at Berkeley prompts me to advise otherwise.  It seemed
>    more expert than Coyote.  The launch is from a boat dock!  You have to
>    put your board in the water, and then sit on the dock and transfer to
>    your board.  The winds were strong, the chop was significant.  I think
>    I have sailed there twice - don't recall for sure.  Maybe I missed the
>    beginner area.

>    tom.

----------

Having never sailed there, I don't feel I can put up too much of an
argument.  However, I should point out the Windfinder (A book which
describes most of the Bay Area windsurfing locations) claims that
Berkeley Marina covers the whole range from beginners through advanced
shortboarders.  It mentions a sheltered area with lower wind and
smaller chop.

On the other hand, if you were there and didn't see this area,
maybe it was exaggerated in the book.

I'm curious as to why starting from a dock is such a problem.
Can't you just throw your equipment in the water and then
waterstart or uphaul?

Mike Katz

 
 
 

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Post by Pond Sc » Sun, 16 Jun 1991 15:18:17

Quote:

>    My experience at Berkeley prompts me to advise otherwise.  It seemed
>    more expert than Coyote.  The launch is from a boat dock!  You have to
>    put your board in the water, and then sit on the dock and transfer to

Think of as doing a beach start while standing (or sitting) on a chair in the
water.  It is a *** to sail in though, you've got to sail up to the dock,
climb up onto the dock and then lift your rig and board out of the water.

Quote:
>    your board.  The winds were strong, the chop was significant.  I think
>    I have sailed there twice - don't recall for sure.  Maybe I missed the
>    beginner area.

You were there on an unusually windy day.  In all the sailing I've ever done
at Berkeley, I've used my 5.3 once, 5.9 a dozen times, and my 6.6 another
half dozen times.  Typical wind is 10-15mph near the dock and 15-20mph
farther out.  If you don't mind climbing down rocks (more like boulders),
you can launch from the point under Hs. Lordships restaurant into the stronger
winds.  Normally the protected area near the dock is a beginner area.

I don't think Coyote is too advanced if you have a weak waterstart, though
you probably don't want to go too far out, and should try to stay as far
upwind as you can (don't want to drift into the swimming area, I heard they
wrote windsurfers tickets for it last year).


 
 
 

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Post by Kirk Lindstr » Wed, 19 Jun 1991 00:52:14

I've been advised that Crown Beach in Alameda is easier than Coyote and you
don't have to launch off of a dock.  It is reported to have a large, shallow
sloped, sandy beach which is ideal for working on waterstarts.  The wind
should be side-on-shore which is quite safe.  

-Kirk out