I need a trailer

I need a trailer

Post by Jame » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:20:37


My college's club has $850 to spend on a trailer for windsurfs,
kayaks, etc.  It would have to be able to carry at least 4 boards +
rigs and 2 kayaks.  We're not master builders or anything.  Any advice
on how we might purchase an affordable trailer / kit?  We're in
Gloucester Point, ***ia.

Thanks

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by Michae » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:22:09


Quote:
> My college's club has $850 to spend on a trailer for windsurfs,
> kayaks, etc.  It would have to be able to carry at least 4 boards +
> rigs and 2 kayaks.  We're not master builders or anything.  Any advice
> on how we might purchase an affordable trailer / kit?  We're in
> Gloucester Point, ***ia.

> Thanks

There's a web page with a lot of links to various trailer designs and
discussions...perhaps it would be helpful:
http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by ckov.. » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:30:13

James,

I just spent the weekend building a trailer, and it came out better
than anticipated.  I bought a $700 utility trailer with highway rated
tires and spent about $350 on materials.  The box is made of 1/2 inch
plywood and the dimensions are 4 feet wide by 8 feet deep and two feet
high.  It fits up to a 9.0 rig.  It will have a rack system on top
made from 1 inch conduit and these really cool slide through connector
sleeves used for railings.  I am still waiting for the parts to come
by mail.  I will post some pics once the remaining parts come in.

The box is rock solid and has a rear entry door for sails masts and
booms.  It has a door on top for all the other gear.  You could build
it for less if you find the trailer used.

Peter

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by Luck » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:39:27


Quote:
> My college's club has $850 to spend on a trailer for windsurfs,
> kayaks, etc.  It would have to be able to carry at least 4 boards +
> rigs and 2 kayaks.  We're not master builders or anything.  Any advice
> on how we might purchase an affordable trailer / kit?  We're in
> Gloucester Point, ***ia.

> Thanks

This might sound rediculous, but my local bike / kayak club just
bought a bus for $1500.  If you can get a few people together to raise
a little bit of extra money, you might just be able to track down one
of those puppies!
 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by a_ma.. » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:58:56


Quote:
> My college's club has $850 to spend on a trailer for windsurfs,
> kayaks, etc.  It would have to be able to carry at least 4 boards +
> rigs and 2 kayaks.  We're not master builders or anything.  Any advice
> on how we might purchase an affordable trailer / kit?  We're in
> Gloucester Point, ***ia.

> Thanks

James,
it really depends whether you need it enclosed or not. If your gear
lives in a storage shed at a club facility, and you're only using the
trailer for road trips and don't mind loading, then $850 is easily
done. Get a utility trailer, or a used boat trailer, then either use
lumber to build some sort of racking system on top, or have a local
welder make you one. Not a big deal, and very effective - but all the
gear is exposed.

If you're looking for enclosed - anything long enough for kayaks (I
assume sea kayaks or sit-on-tops, not playboats) or longboards, for
that matter, will be very heavy and very expensive (even used - think
Wells Cargo/Interstate/etc. type trailers, or snowmobile trailers,
etc.). So even if you want most of the windsurfing gear enclosed,
you'll probably have the kayaks and longboards (if you have any) on a
rack on top.

Next question with enclosed trailers - how much weight can you
stomach? You can easily build a box from 2x4's and plywood. That's got
a lot of issues with rot and moisture, and it's heavy. I live in a wet
climate, my gear always lives in the trailer, I wanted to tow it with
a Subaru, and I needed a fair amount of space (racer, don't even go
there...), so here's what I ended up doing:
http://SportToday.org/

If you guys come up with something ingenious, be sure to publish it -
people are always curious about different solutions to this issue.

-Andreas
http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by Malcolm Jone » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:01:58

I found all the info people have put out on the net extremely useful when I built one.

In the end I used a catamaran trailer and built a ply-wood box 3.2x1.2x0.6m. Here are the details http://SportToday.org/~jonesmb/wind/windtrail.pdf (note my prices are in $AUS).
--

Quote:


>> My college's club has $850 to spend on a trailer for windsurfs,
>> kayaks, etc.  It would have to be able to carry at least 4 boards +
>> rigs and 2 kayaks.  We're not master builders or anything.  Any advice
>> on how we might purchase an affordable trailer / kit?  We're in
>> Gloucester Point, ***ia.

>> Thanks

> James,
> it really depends whether you need it enclosed or not. If your gear
> lives in a storage shed at a club facility, and you're only using the
> trailer for road trips and don't mind loading, then $850 is easily
> done. Get a utility trailer, or a used boat trailer, then either use
> lumber to build some sort of racking system on top, or have a local
> welder make you one. Not a big deal, and very effective - but all the
> gear is exposed.

> If you're looking for enclosed - anything long enough for kayaks (I
> assume sea kayaks or sit-on-tops, not playboats) or longboards, for
> that matter, will be very heavy and very expensive (even used - think
> Wells Cargo/Interstate/etc. type trailers, or snowmobile trailers,
> etc.). So even if you want most of the windsurfing gear enclosed,
> you'll probably have the kayaks and longboards (if you have any) on a
> rack on top.

> Next question with enclosed trailers - how much weight can you
> stomach? You can easily build a box from 2x4's and plywood. That's got
> a lot of issues with rot and moisture, and it's heavy. I live in a wet
> climate, my gear always lives in the trailer, I wanted to tow it with
> a Subaru, and I needed a fair amount of space (racer, don't even go
> there...), so here's what I ended up doing:
> http://SportToday.org/

> If you guys come up with something ingenious, be sure to publish it -
> people are always curious about different solutions to this issue.

> -Andreas
> http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by gazze » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:44:29


Quote:
> I found all the info people have put out on the net extremely useful when I built one.

> In the end I used a catamaran trailer and built a ply-wood box 3.2x1.2x0.6m. Here are the detailshttp://silmaril.math.sci.qut.edu.au/~jonesmb/wind/windtrail.pdf(note my prices are in $AUS).
> --

Nice job
 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by the principa » Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:02:10

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9268/readyfordeckinghb3.jpg

11'6" X 3'6"  about $500 to this point using new (lazy) 2x2 angle for
frame and 2x2 box for tounge and wheel hangers (2; in case balance
point needs changing to haul jetskis)
built the trailer in a day and a half, few hours to paint and deck
then a full box 4 foot high took two days.
1 of those box days was used up shopping, and rear and front doors
were 1 more day.

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by Erik » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:47:51

I too am in the process of making a trailer.  Andreas, I like the idea
of the "Alumalite" for both the weight savings and weather
resistance.  Does it cost a pretty penny compared to the heavy, but
cheap, wood products?  If anyone has thoughts on a good "skin" for the
fram let me know.  Thanks, Erik.
 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by ckov.. » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:55:42

Erik,

My box will probably weigh in around 200lbs using 1/2inch plywood for
the construction.  Not a bad weight.  I hope to have it completed by
the end of this weekend.  I will put up the pics once it is done.

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by a_ma.. » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 04:12:45


Quote:
> I too am in the process of making a trailer.  Andreas, I like the idea
> of the "Alumalite" for both the weight savings and weather
> resistance.  Does it cost a pretty penny compared to the heavy, but
> cheap, wood products?  If anyone has thoughts on a good "skin" for the
> fram let me know.  Thanks, Erik.

Erik,
here's my cost summary for my trailer:
Trailer - $500
Alumalite - $800
Aluminum stock for frame - $450
Odds and ends (rivets, fasteners, hasps, locks, longer tongue, spare
tire, etc.) - $100

So total cost was about $1,850, plus my time (I'd say about 45-50
hours total for the project).

Compare that to something from E&J trailers (where you have to also
reckon with shipping), and it's not too bad.

You could save some by going with a 4' wide base trailer rather then
the 5' chassis I went with (those are about $150 cheaper, plus the
Alumalite comes in 8x4 sheets, so you're cutting down on that as
well).

For me, using the Alumalite wasn't just about the weight - it was also
about longevity and low maintenance. I won't have to paint/waterproof
this baby, and there won't be any mold growing on the inside walls
(something to consider if you live in a wet climate like NW
Washington...)

-Andreas
http://g-42.blogspot.com

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by ckov.. » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:16:06

Here are some pics of the box.  The rack should be completed this
weekend.  I have included pics of the rack components.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/peterk123/rack.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/peterk123/Box.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/peterk123/openings2.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/peterk123/inside.jpg

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by NC/M » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:29:37


Quote:

> > I too am in the process of making a trailer.  Andreas, I like the idea
> > of the "Alumalite" for both the weight savings and weather
> > resistance.  Does it cost a pretty penny compared to the heavy, but
> > cheap, wood products?  If anyone has thoughts on a good "skin" for the
> > fram let me know.  Thanks, Erik.

> Erik,
> here's my cost summary for my trailer:
> Trailer - $500
> Alumalite - $800
> Aluminum stock for frame - $450
> Odds and ends (rivets, fasteners, hasps, locks, longer tongue, spare
> tire, etc.) - $100

> So total cost was about $1,850, plus my time (I'd say about 45-50
> hours total for the project).

> Compare that to something from E&J trailers (where you have to also
> reckon with shipping), and it's not too bad.

> You could save some by going with a 4' wide base trailer rather then
> the 5' chassis I went with (those are about $150 cheaper, plus the
> Alumalite comes in 8x4 sheets, so you're cutting down on that as
> well).

> For me, using the Alumalite wasn't just about the weight - it was also
> about longevity and low maintenance. I won't have to paint/waterproof
> this baby, and there won't be any mold growing on the inside walls
> (something to consider if you live in a wet climate like NW
> Washington...)

> -Andreashttp://g-42.blogspot.com

Shipping for E&J is a deal killer for many. My E&J ran me $3,000 (it
was a 1-year old, used trailer he had for sale). It would have cost me
close to $500 to have him ship it down to me. I go to Buffalo at
Christmas, so I went to pick it up to save a bit of money.

I never got as far as you with the idea of building my own. Knowing
that I spent more doesn't bother me as I would be worried whatever I
built would fall apart on me. :-)

For comparison purposes, I was told my trailer (fully enclosed,
12x5x5) weighs in at ~800 pounds. He used 3/8-inch plywood walls under
the aluminum outside skin. The ceiling is really thin luan (sp?). I
don't recall how thick the floor is, but it is thicker than 3/8 and is
made of marine grade plywood.

 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by the principa » Sun, 08 Apr 2007 07:32:48

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/543/paintedframeio9.jpg
 
 
 

I need a trailer

Post by ckov.. » Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:24:43

Here are some pics of the finished product.  This project got me
thinking that it may make sense to have a thread dedicated to building
trailers.  I know that I was at a loss for good info when building
mine and I ended up winging it.  There are some sites with ok pictures
but I found them to be insufficient when it came down to the
details.

It ended up being fairly easy to build.  Total cost was around
$1,000.  It is relatively light and designed in such a way that the
box can come off so I can use the trailer for honeydo items.  I went
with a minimalist approach.  I wanted something that was small so it
would be easy to park in small areas.  It is just long enough to hold
a 9.0 sail.  My 460 masts fit no problem but the 490 will have to go
on top.  I'm okay with that.  It is very light and I plan on building
an axle with the wheels that I can place the box on and roll around if
I need the utility trailer.  The box is bolted and strapeed onto the
trailer (probably overkill)Now it needs a paint job.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/peterk123/rack2.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/peterk123/racks.jpg