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> Hey all,

> just got back from Frisco on Saturday,  just on time to miss most of
> Windfest  :(
> would have liked to stay longer, but accommodations were up on
Saturday
> morning.

> I arrived the previous Saturday morning, and promptly rigged and
sailed that
> day for a couple hrs.
> was able to sail again Sunday and Monday as well.
> (all sound side)  was able to rig a 5.5 for the first time in my life
and
> not use it as a beginners sail.  :)
> Tuesday was a dud,  Wednesday gave a great late afternoon session,
Thursday
> morning was nice,  but died quickly,
> Friday morning was great, and then died around early afternoon.

> personal trip highlights,

> my first successful jibe :)
> walking thru the setting up of windfest Thursday afternoon, and
checking out
> the new rides.
> scoring a great deal on a used carbon boom 1 short day after
destroying an
> aluminum boom that I wished I had an excuse to replace.
> setting my own personal gps speed record on my f155 with a 6.5 sail
at 30.6
> mph

> trip lowlights

> cutting my foot on something out in the sound, and leaving a pool of
***
> on the boardwalk to the launch.
> waiting for the wind on Thursday morning then rigging too small and
getting
> skunked on 3 separate trips back to re rig.
> sandbars

> things I learned

> Sailing with other people is that much more fun than sailing solo as
I am
> normally forced to do here in TN.
> those guys at windfest know their sh^t I just watched for 30 min as
they
> explained rigging ect, and learned something every time  (for example
- too
> much outhaul makes a sail unstable)

> Dave

> Thanks for the report! Looks like a great trip overall :)

> So, how do you know you have too much outhaul?

> Hey all,

> just got back from Frisco on Saturday,  just on time to miss most of
> Windfest  :(
> would have liked to stay longer, but accommodations were up on
Saturday
> morning.

> I arrived the previous Saturday morning, and promptly rigged and
sailed that
> day for a couple hrs.
> was able to sail again Sunday and Monday as well.
> (all sound side)  was able to rig a 5.5 for the first time in my life
and
> not use it as a beginners sail.  :)
> Tuesday was a dud,  Wednesday gave a great late afternoon session,
Thursday
> morning was nice,  but died quickly,
> Friday morning was great, and then died around early afternoon.

> personal trip highlights,

> my first successful jibe :)
> walking thru the setting up of windfest Thursday afternoon, and
checking out
> the new rides.
> scoring a great deal on a used carbon boom 1 short day after
destroying an
> aluminum boom that I wished I had an excuse to replace.
> setting my own personal gps speed record on my f155 with a 6.5 sail
at 30.6
> mph

> trip lowlights

> cutting my foot on something out in the sound, and leaving a pool of
***
> on the boardwalk to the launch.
> waiting for the wind on Thursday morning then rigging too small and
getting
> skunked on 3 separate trips back to re rig.
> sandbars

> things I learned

> Sailing with other people is that much more fun than sailing solo as
I am
> normally forced to do here in TN.
> those guys at windfest know their sh^t I just watched for 30 min as
they
> explained rigging ect, and learned something every time  (for example
- too
> much outhaul makes a sail unstable)

> Dave

>Hey all,

>just got back from Frisco on Saturday,  just on time to miss most of
>Windfest  :(
>things I learned

>those guys at windfest know their sh^t I just watched for 30 min as they
>explained rigging ect, and learned something every time  (for example - too
>much outhaul makes a sail unstable)

>> Thanks for the report! Looks like a great trip overall :)

>> So, how do you know you have too much outhaul?

>well,  I imagine others will be able to explain this better than I can,
>but, with the help of another person after your sail is rigged up and with
>the boom attached, and the battens curved below the mast lay your sail on
>the ground (as if the wind was blowing straight down on the sail).   have
>them hold down the foot of the sail.   you take the top of the mast and push
>it slightly towards the ground,  (simulating the effect the wind would have
>on bending your mast)  watching the sail between the battens above and below
>the boom,  if you have too much outhaul, the sail will wrinkle in this area,
>taking what was a locked in coe and allowing it to shift around on the sail.

>if your outhaul is just right,  the draft of the sail will stay stable and
>not wrinkle up.

>I believe it was pepi from sailworks that was explaining this, so he'd
>probably be able to explain this with better detail than I.

>Dave

> A poor sail rigged properly is much better than a good sail rigged
> improperly.

> Neat, thanks!

> So one way to test this by yourself could be:

> 1. attach the foot mast to the board
> 2. lay the mast straight downwind on the boom
> 3. move to the top of the mast and push down on it

> Makes sense?

> Marius

> Hi,
>  How did we miss meeting you? If you'd stopped by the
> Starboard/Sailworks site, Roger and I would have enjoyed meeting you.
> Maybe you did, but didn't tell us who you were?
>  The conditions all week were typical Hatteras: a little bit of
> everything.
> Ellen

>> Hey all,

>> just got back from Frisco on Saturday,  just on time to miss most of
>> Windfest  :(
>> would have liked to stay longer, but accommodations were up on
> Saturday
>> morning.

>> I arrived the previous Saturday morning, and promptly rigged and
> sailed that
>> day for a couple hrs.
>> was able to sail again Sunday and Monday as well.
>> (all sound side)  was able to rig a 5.5 for the first time in my life
> and
>> not use it as a beginners sail.  :)
>> Tuesday was a dud,  Wednesday gave a great late afternoon session,
> Thursday
>> morning was nice,  but died quickly,
>> Friday morning was great, and then died around early afternoon.

>> personal trip highlights,

>> my first successful jibe :)
>> walking thru the setting up of windfest Thursday afternoon, and
> checking out
>> the new rides.
>> scoring a great deal on a used carbon boom 1 short day after
> destroying an
>> aluminum boom that I wished I had an excuse to replace.
>> setting my own personal gps speed record on my f155 with a 6.5 sail
> at 30.6
>> mph

>> trip lowlights

>> cutting my foot on something out in the sound, and leaving a pool of
> ***
>> on the boardwalk to the launch.
>> waiting for the wind on Thursday morning then rigging too small and
> getting
>> skunked on 3 separate trips back to re rig.
>> sandbars

>> things I learned

>> Sailing with other people is that much more fun than sailing solo as
> I am
>> normally forced to do here in TN.
>> those guys at windfest know their sh^t I just watched for 30 min as
> they
>> explained rigging ect, and learned something every time  (for example
> - too
>> much outhaul makes a sail unstable)

>> Dave

> Just to clear the air on the earlier reference to my comments regarding
> outhaul effecting draft location (during the rigging clinic I gave in
> Hatteras).
> My comments were heard correctly, but lacked the additional context of
> information regarding the question posed to me during that clinic about
> over outhauling a sail.  I was making a point of explaning that when
> you are overpowered on a sail and attempt to depower your sail with
> outhaul adjustment, that you can do this only to a certain point.
> The goal of increasing your outhaul tension is to reduce the amount of
> draft (sail shape) that your sail has (therefore reducing the amount of
> power).  But, this is only good to a certain point.  Once you reach a
> point where you are overouthauling your sail so that it is as flat as a
> sheet of plywood, you then have eliminated any draft stability that
> your sail had, plus induced an increased amount of perimeter tension
> (in the leech) that can result in pullling your center of effort up
> higher on the sail (and since your rig is raked at an angle, therefore
> results in a COE/draft that has moved aft on your board).

> Each of the comments made in posting to this topic have all been
> correct, but relate to different circumstances for how a sailor would
> want his/her rig to perform.  Certain tuning techniques will typically
> work best some styles of sails and not for others.  I would definitely
> feel confortable sailing with less outhaul on a race or draft stable
> freeride sail, but I would not feel as comfortable sailing a wave or
> freestyle sail with less outhaul.  Certain styles of sails are designed
> to perform in specific ways, and it is helpful to be aware of these
> benefits.

> Thank you
> Pepi