Mast tracks: Where should the mast go?

Mast tracks: Where should the mast go?

Post by Ross Finlays » Tue, 09 Jul 1991 11:44:29


A question from a novice (me):

On boards with a mast track, what are the factors that determine where
the mast should be placed?

I recently bought a Mistral Diamond Head board (9'), with a mast track
numbered from 0-10 (0 being towards the front of the board; 10 being towards
the back).  When is it best to move the mast towards the front, and when is it
best to move it back?

 
 
 

Mast tracks: Where should the mast go?

Post by Dan B. Kas » Tue, 09 Jul 1991 22:04:47

|> I recently bought a Mistral Diamond Head board (9'), with a mast track
|> numbered from 0-10 (0 being towards the front of the board; 10 being towards
|> the back).  When is it best to move the mast towards the front, and when is it
|> best to move it back?

This may be a simplistic answer, and I think (and kind of hope) it will
start more physics of sailing posts.  When I set my harness lines, I
think to the last sail I used, and move the lines about an inch forward
for each sail size decrease.  So if I had the 6.0 up, and I put the
4.7 up, I  move the lines forwards 2 inches.  I do the same with the
mast track, coming back with smaller sails.  With my big 6.0, the mast
is 1/3 back from the nose in the track (I don't know why, but it works).
Then I come back about 2 inches per sail size down (6.0, 5.3,4.6 . . .).
If the wind is strong, and I have trouble keeping the thing on the
water, I may move the mast forwards.  Or find flat water and scream.
This is all theoretical though, because There hasn't been wind in about
2 month up here.

Dan

 
 
 

Mast tracks: Where should the mast go?

Post by b.. » Wed, 10 Jul 1991 11:59:08



Quote:

> |> When is it best to move the mast towards the front, and when is it
> |> best to move it back?

> This may be a simplistic answer, and I think (and kind of hope) it will
> start more physics of sailing posts.  When I set my harness lines, I
> think to the last sail I used, and move the lines about an inch forward
> for each sail size decrease.  So if I had the 6.0 up, and I put the
> 4.7 up, I  move the lines forwards 2 inches.  I do the same with the
> mast track, coming back with smaller sails.  

i've often wondered what the effect of mast base position is because it
affects so man different things:  does c/e go back when base goes back or
does it rotate up and fwd with sailor as fulcrum?  what about effect of
where the mast is pushing on the board?  i think a lot of people find a
good position for their weight and style and leave it there for all
sails and conditions. are there any times anyone goes to fore or aft extreme?
i remember once going all the way forward and rounding up continually (that's
why i think the c/e may rotate opposite to instead of move with base).
does it affect spin out? how about footstrap positions relative to mast foot?
whose going to reduce all this data?

Quote:
> With my big 6.0,

"big" 6.0? obviously not a small-lake sailor.

things looked promising on cayuga lake today: windy everywhere,
storm/hail/tornado warnings, i went to the beach before work and it was wall
to wall whitcaps, BUT, by the time i got there after work - well, you lake
sailors know the rest and the others would just snicker.  i only got in the
straps 3 or 4 times, and then only for 10 s max.  i had only packed up to my
6.1 and then found i had the wrong mast, the base got stuck, etc etc so i
was "Team Rig" for about an hour. most of the sailing time i was in the toilet
(that's what that non-planing noise reminds me of).  i am 200 lb and there were
lightweights out there with 6.6 and up.  even they weren't planing all the
time.  i didn't smile much.  it was down
to 12 or 15 before common sense took over and i gave up.  i got good at my light
wind waterstart.  and then i broke my skeg on the garage door when i got home
(start violins here).  you guys on the ocean or big lakes, just remember that
when we hear "25 knots" it's really 8-25 on a 5-10 second timescale (rest of
orchestra chimes in).  2:1 max:min is a rare GOOD day 4:1 or 5:1 is more
typical.  i spent more time sailing in cape hatteras 2 weeks ago where we got
3 out of 6 than i have on cayuga in the past year (big finish with cymbals).

for sale: beat up O'Brien 9'4", beat up Bic loooongboard, ancient RAF sails:
3.7, 4.0, 4.5, 4.9, 5.0, 5.4, 6.1 (really beat up, will give to anyone),
7.8 north (used but good), several old-style
(short batten) sails (10 years old), several fiberglass masts, 14.5-15+ft,
old booms (non-clamping), old misc boards: 1 wooden, shaped like a small
sunfish, another wooden, flat bottom, 2 goolies (the brits may know what these
are - soft foam), misc parts (wsh mast bases, misc seat and chest harnesses).
shipping included, $3.50 (US) takes the lot - i'll write you a check or send
cash as you prefer.

i'm keeping the HiFly with the 6.4 for my wife, she's light enough to have fun,
and it's her board, anyway.

(sigh)

 
 
 

Mast tracks: Where should the mast go?

Post by Pond Sc » Thu, 11 Jul 1991 15:28:49

Quote:

>On boards with a mast track, what are the factors that determine where
>the mast should be placed?

For *shortboards*, the main factor for me is sail size and to a lesser degree,
how powered up I am.  I usually just keep moving the sail back and back until
I have trouble going upwind.  The point right before upwind performance
deteriorates is usually the best for beam reaches in powered conditions.

Quote:
>the back).  When is it best to move the mast towards the front, and when is it
>best to move it back?

If I'm marginally powered or doing a lot of upwind work, the board will slow
down and the tail will start to sink, so I usually move the mast one or two
inches forward to keep the board flat.  Also, if things are starting to get
out of control and I'm having trouble keeping the board on the water, moving
the mast forward can help keep the board on the water (however, your chances
of getting launched hard while hooked in increases!).

I think on a Diamond Head you can keep the mast all the way back unless
you're using an old race sail ('89 or older) larger than 6.4 square meters.