Raceboard class and fat people

Raceboard class and fat people

Post by Richard Upto » Sat, 07 May 1994 13:50:48


Does anyone know the address of the IBSA?  I would like
write to them and suggest a few changes to their
Raceboard class.
Basically, fat people like myself (87 kg) need to use
bigger sails and fins to be competitive in the
heavyweight class (where we have to race against
70kg+ sailors, all using 7.5 sails).

One suggestion has been to create a superheavy weight
class.  I believe that some states in Australia
have done this.

However, it seems to me the most exciting and fair
racing would be if every one, regardless of weight,
planed at the approximately the same windspeed.
To do this, abandon weight classes, which are a pain
for small fleets anyway, and introduce the following
maximum sail sizes depending on body weight:

65 kg sail size up to 6.5 m2 sail
70 kg sail size up to 7.0 m2 sail
75 kg sail size up to 7.5 m2 sail
80 kg sail size up to 8.0 m2 sail
85 kg sail size up to 8.5 m2 sail
90 kg sail size up to 9.0 m2 sail
etc. etc.

Just an idea.  What do other Raceboarders think?

Regards,

Richard Upton,
Adelaide,
Australia

P.S. I used to weigh 75 kg, so I have observed the
effect of increased body weight first hand!

P.P.S  Expecting flames from light-weights!!

 
 
 

Raceboard class and fat people

Post by Patrice Boi » Sun, 08 May 1994 23:07:04

: One suggestion has been to create a superheavy weight
: class.  I believe that some states in Australia
: have done this.

In Canada, while we sometimes (when there's enough sailors) seperate the
group into fleets of light (-70kg), medium (-85kg) and heavy weights (
85kg), there is one rule that always aplly: Heavy weights may use a 8.5
m2, while every one else is limited to 7.5 m2.  Guess what, it's the
medium weights that are at a disadvantage over here in winds of less
than 1o-12 knots, above that I feel that no weight class is advantaged
over the others... --
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Patrice Boily

 
 
 

Raceboard class and fat people

Post by Mr Bruce Albert Cotse » Wed, 11 May 1994 17:10:11

Quote:
Richard Upton writes:
>However, it seems to me the most exciting and fair
>racing would be if every one, regardless of weight,
>planed at the approximately the same windspeed.
>To do this, abandon weight classes, which are a pain
>for small fleets anyway, and introduce the following
>maximum sail sizes depending on body weight:
>65 kg sail size up to 6.5 m2 sail
>70 kg sail size up to 7.0 m2 sail
>75 kg sail size up to 7.5 m2 sail
>80 kg sail size up to 8.0 m2 sail
>85 kg sail size up to 8.5 m2 sail
>90 kg sail size up to 9.0 m2 sail
>etc. etc.
>Just an idea.  What do other Raceboarders think?

This is all very well but.....
   What happens in full planing conditions when the
   heavy weights have the advantage anyway.  An 80kg
   sailor with an 8.0 m2 in force 4: no-one could get
   near them :-(

By the way here in the UK some regions do have a super
heavy weight class.  This seems the fairest.

Bruce C. (62.5kg)

K 7973

Quote:
>P.P.S  Expecting flames from light-weights!!

Yup!!

 
 
 

Raceboard class and fat people

Post by Pat J. Pinche » Fri, 13 May 1994 22:21:21

Quote:

>One suggestion has been to create a superheavy weight
>class.  I believe that some states in Australia
>have done this.
[stuff deleted]

>Just an idea.  What do other Raceboarders think?

The Tudor/Mistral Series has addressed the weight issue in the non A
Fleet, called Sport Fleet. If you weight 190 lbs (~86 kg) or greater,
you may use up to a 9.0 m2 sail. All other classes are limited to
7.5 m2. This is to even out the advantage in lighter winds. In A-Fleet,
there is an unlimited class, so a heavier sailor could sail in that
class if they wanted a bigger sail (again, all other classes are limited
to 7.5).  If there are 10 or more people in a class, say Men 7.5 class,
then usually the race organizers will break it into two weight classes.

Pat
USWA# P19
Mistral One-Design, 8'8" Challenge Flex, 9' Ricky Carroll Slalom
Mistral Race sails 5.2-7.4, and one UP 4.1 for the hurricanes

--
Patrick Pinchera                   Melbourne, Florida, USA

 
 
 

Raceboard class and fat people

Post by trev » Thu, 19 May 1994 23:14:21

Sorry a bit late but I've been on holiday.

What a good idea.

We have a super heavy 85+ Kg in the UKBSA still normal raceboard sails/fins
etc but it does give us fat bastards a chance in non planning winds.

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Post by Jona Ljungstr » Thu, 19 May 1994 23:41:49

Hi
I think there is something good in what you are saying about different sail
sizes. However a whole jump of 0.5m2 for only 5kg of sailor???
If a 65kg sailor sail with a 6.5 as you recomend he wont havbe a chance against
the 75kg sailor with the 7.5 of sail.

                                Jona Ljungstrom  SWE 876