Fiberglass?

Fiberglass?

Post by ALP » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:01:31


I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
the board and see nada. What gives?

Ann Phelan
www.bonairecaribbean.com

 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by weed.. » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:05:24

I thought Maggie was older than 3 years old? Anyway, about your 87 year
old Angulo board, are you sure it's fiberglass? I don't think
fiberglass was around 87 years ago, although I could be wrong. ;-)
Quote:

> I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> the board and see nada. What gives?

> Ann Phelan
> www.bonairecaribbean.com


 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by Dan Weis » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:59:55

Hi Ann:  In 1987 Angulo used sugar as the grip substance on top of the deck.
It worked well b/c the resin apparently dissolved the sugar and took the
sugar crystal's shape.  Sugar decks are very sharp and remain so as they
were down.  It is possible that the deck abrades your leg as you carry the
board.  Any *** stuff on the deck would then have a warm place to live, at
the expense of your skin.

Otherwise, fiberglass often protrudes from older material, and it could very
well be that it is directly contacting your skin, thus causing the rash.  If
you think glass fibers have taken up residence in your skin, you can apply
wax to your leg (I'm sure you know how).  It will remove most of the fibers
in the same way it removes hair.  Wax is probably not ideal for a rash, but
maybe the end justifies the means in this case.  Of course, a hot soak will
help clear foreign substances from the skin.

In any event, fiberglass isn't something you want sticking around.  Good
luck!

-Dan

Quote:
>I thought Maggie was older than 3 years old? Anyway, about your 87 year
> old Angulo board, are you sure it's fiberglass? I don't think
> fiberglass was around 87 years ago, although I could be wrong. ;-)


>> I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
>> rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
>> stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
>> the board and see nada. What gives?

>> Ann Phelan
>> www.bonairecaribbean.com


 
 
 

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Post by wtrplne » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 07:18:36

Quote:
> maybe the end justifies the means in this case.  Of course, a hot soak
> will help clear foreign substances from the skin.

Careful with that hot soak.  Hot water will open pores and the glass fibers
can go deeper.  The hot wax sounds like a good idea though.

Alan

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Post by Brian Sangeorza » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:22:36

Hi Ann,
Is the rash on your forearm?  I'm sure you carry the board with the non-skid
away from your body - right?  Without seeing the board, I'd guess, like Dan,
that something might be on  the deck surface.  I recall several people
getting rashes on their legs from whatever was on the plants in the water
over on the north side of Lac Bay.
Anyway, why not ask Elvis to inspect your board?
Brian
(see you in about 7 weeks)


Quote:
> I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> the board and see nada. What gives?

> Ann Phelan
> www.bonairecaribbean.com

 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by sailq.. » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:29:23

Hi Annie,
I'll have alook at it when I get down to Bonaire after the 21st.
If the glass is indeed getting exposed (and it very well could be) we
can find some resin or varnish that will seal the glass permanently.
Try to take a look at the rail that's down when you carry the board and
see if you see any bright shiny glass fibers when the board is in the
sun.
If so, we can easily seal them up.
Hope this helps,
Quote:

> I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> the board and see nada. What gives?

> Ann Phelan
> www.bonairecaribbean.com

 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by Tsunam » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 16:57:54


Quote:
> I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> the board and see nada. What gives?

> Ann Phelan
> www.bonairecaribbean.com

Very likely. This was a problem with older glass masts many years ago... the
very thin gel coat of resin on the outer surface wore off, exposing the
layer of resin-***d glass underneath. You'd have sparkly hands after
picking them up.
If a board is old enough, and the gelcoat was a bit thin in one area, it
could happen.  You'll know it by looking at the skin in the sun: it will
look like a million little diamonds sparkling. If you've ever seen a diamond
cutting wheel for a tool to cut stone you'll know what I mean.

Best response is to clean board well with acetone, sand back with about 240
grade sandpaper and paint on fibreglass resin. (not the deck though!!) That
can be a bit hard though, and may lead to resin runs and dribbles if you
have not done fibreglass work before.
Easy way is to prep as above (good good clean then sandpaper), then spray
with a clear auto touchup acrylic paint (not varnish cos it is yellow)
It will only last a season max though, you'll have to do it again, as the
clear paint is much less resistant to wear than a fibreglass (polyester)
resin is.

 
 
 

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Post by ALP » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 21:27:21

Sorry, Maggie is 14 and the board is 3 years old..Ed, go to
hell..haaaaaaa

The rash has appeared twice on my left upper thigh area and again on
the left near my knee so if we replicate the way I carry the board
(Same way each time) we can see..or it may be happening when I water
start in one direction?? It is definitely something shiny as you can
see the rash area sparkle in the sun..It's still sore today and very
red..lasts a few days. Roger, can you come any quicker? Haaa...See ya
soon Brian....it's HOWLING for weeks now..am taking the day off as the
masses will be at the beach today...gotta rest up for tonight. The
island is like freaken Beirut  already.

Happy New Year and thanks everyone..

Annie
www.bonairecaribbean.com

Quote:



> > I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> > rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> > stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> > the board and see nada. What gives?

> > Ann Phelan
> > www.bonairecaribbean.com

> Very likely. This was a problem with older glass masts many years ago... the
> very thin gel coat of resin on the outer surface wore off, exposing the
> layer of resin-***d glass underneath. You'd have sparkly hands after
> picking them up.
> If a board is old enough, and the gelcoat was a bit thin in one area, it
> could happen.  You'll know it by looking at the skin in the sun: it will
> look like a million little diamonds sparkling. If you've ever seen a diamond
> cutting wheel for a tool to cut stone you'll know what I mean.

> Best response is to clean board well with acetone, sand back with about 240
> grade sandpaper and paint on fibreglass resin. (not the deck though!!) That
> can be a bit hard though, and may lead to resin runs and dribbles if you
> have not done fibreglass work before.
> Easy way is to prep as above (good good clean then sandpaper), then spray
> with a clear auto touchup acrylic paint (not varnish cos it is yellow)
> It will only last a season max though, you'll have to do it again, as the
> clear paint is much less resistant to wear than a fibreglass (polyester)
> resin is.

 
 
 

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Post by weed.. » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:49:07

<<< Sorry, Maggie is 14 and the board is 3 years old..Ed, go to
hell..haaaaaaa >>>

LOL... Happy New Year Annie and Maggie.

Quote:

> Sorry, Maggie is 14 and the board is 3 years old..Ed, go to
> hell..haaaaaaa

> The rash has appeared twice on my left upper thigh area and again on
> the left near my knee so if we replicate the way I carry the board
> (Same way each time) we can see..or it may be happening when I water
> start in one direction?? It is definitely something shiny as you can
> see the rash area sparkle in the sun..It's still sore today and very
> red..lasts a few days. Roger, can you come any quicker? Haaa...See ya
> soon Brian....it's HOWLING for weeks now..am taking the day off as the
> masses will be at the beach today...gotta rest up for tonight. The
> island is like freaken Beirut  already.

> Happy New Year and thanks everyone..

> Annie
> www.bonairecaribbean.com




> > > I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> > > rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> > > stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> > > the board and see nada. What gives?

> > > Ann Phelan
> > > www.bonairecaribbean.com

> > Very likely. This was a problem with older glass masts many years ago... the
> > very thin gel coat of resin on the outer surface wore off, exposing the
> > layer of resin-***d glass underneath. You'd have sparkly hands after
> > picking them up.
> > If a board is old enough, and the gelcoat was a bit thin in one area, it
> > could happen.  You'll know it by looking at the skin in the sun: it will
> > look like a million little diamonds sparkling. If you've ever seen a diamond
> > cutting wheel for a tool to cut stone you'll know what I mean.

> > Best response is to clean board well with acetone, sand back with about 240
> > grade sandpaper and paint on fibreglass resin. (not the deck though!!) That
> > can be a bit hard though, and may lead to resin runs and dribbles if you
> > have not done fibreglass work before.
> > Easy way is to prep as above (good good clean then sandpaper), then spray
> > with a clear auto touchup acrylic paint (not varnish cos it is yellow)
> > It will only last a season max though, you'll have to do it again, as the
> > clear paint is much less resistant to wear than a fibreglass (polyester)
> > resin is.

 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by weed.. » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:24:24

Actually, all kidding aside, you may want to see a dematologist. I had
a small rash show up early last summer above my right hip, it spread a
little bit but mainly stayed in a small area. I ignored it all summer
thinking it may be caused by my shortie, rashguard or something
although the area was sore the whole time.

During the fall when I went in for my annual physical I mentioned it to
my doctor, he looked at the remains of the rash (slight scaring) and
questioned me about my hearing, eye sight and other things. He asked me
why I didn't come to him sooner and I asked the doc, what are you
getting at? He said I and a slight case of Shingles which is a form of
Chicken Pox.

What may be going on with you is that you may be scrapping/brushing
your skin against the sugar coated non skid then something in the water
could be irritating it. If the rash persists I would see a
dermatologist. It's better to see a professional than guess to what it
is.

Quote:

> <<< Sorry, Maggie is 14 and the board is 3 years old..Ed, go to
> hell..haaaaaaa >>>

> LOL... Happy New Year Annie and Maggie.


> > Sorry, Maggie is 14 and the board is 3 years old..Ed, go to
> > hell..haaaaaaa

> > The rash has appeared twice on my left upper thigh area and again on
> > the left near my knee so if we replicate the way I carry the board
> > (Same way each time) we can see..or it may be happening when I water
> > start in one direction?? It is definitely something shiny as you can
> > see the rash area sparkle in the sun..It's still sore today and very
> > red..lasts a few days. Roger, can you come any quicker? Haaa...See ya
> > soon Brian....it's HOWLING for weeks now..am taking the day off as the
> > masses will be at the beach today...gotta rest up for tonight. The
> > island is like freaken Beirut  already.

> > Happy New Year and thanks everyone..

> > Annie
> > www.bonairecaribbean.com




> > > > I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> > > > rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> > > > stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> > > > the board and see nada. What gives?

> > > > Ann Phelan
> > > > www.bonairecaribbean.com

> > > Very likely. This was a problem with older glass masts many years ago... the
> > > very thin gel coat of resin on the outer surface wore off, exposing the
> > > layer of resin-***d glass underneath. You'd have sparkly hands after
> > > picking them up.
> > > If a board is old enough, and the gelcoat was a bit thin in one area, it
> > > could happen.  You'll know it by looking at the skin in the sun: it will
> > > look like a million little diamonds sparkling. If you've ever seen a diamond
> > > cutting wheel for a tool to cut stone you'll know what I mean.

> > > Best response is to clean board well with acetone, sand back with about 240
> > > grade sandpaper and paint on fibreglass resin. (not the deck though!!) That
> > > can be a bit hard though, and may lead to resin runs and dribbles if you
> > > have not done fibreglass work before.
> > > Easy way is to prep as above (good good clean then sandpaper), then spray
> > > with a clear auto touchup acrylic paint (not varnish cos it is yellow)
> > > It will only last a season max though, you'll have to do it again, as the
> > > clear paint is much less resistant to wear than a fibreglass (polyester)
> > > resin is.

 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by sailq.. » Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:37:34

Hi again Annie,
Nope, can't make it any sooner. Gotta go work in the cold on Seattle,
up the mast on an aircraft carrier to make some money for the trip to
Bonaire.
Another possibility is:
Where do you store your Angulo? At the beach, maybe in the repair shop
at "The Place"?
Or do you carry it back and forth to home on a roof rack?
Your board could be picking up some glass residue from the repairs in
the shop.
I know when Donnie Bowers fixes my demo boards, they always come back
with a little glass on them.
See you soon!
R
Quote:

> Sorry, Maggie is 14 and the board is 3 years old..Ed, go to
> hell..haaaaaaa

> The rash has appeared twice on my left upper thigh area and again on
> the left near my knee so if we replicate the way I carry the board
> (Same way each time) we can see..or it may be happening when I water
> start in one direction?? It is definitely something shiny as you can
> see the rash area sparkle in the sun..It's still sore today and very
> red..lasts a few days. Roger, can you come any quicker? Haaa...See ya
> soon Brian....it's HOWLING for weeks now..am taking the day off as the
> masses will be at the beach today...gotta rest up for tonight. The
> island is like freaken Beirut  already.

> Happy New Year and thanks everyone..

> Annie
> www.bonairecaribbean.com




> > > I have a 3 year old 87 year old Angulo board.  Lately I am getting a
> > > rash on my left leg I suspect from carrying it.  I have shiny sparkly
> > > stuff on the rash which looks and feels like fiberglass. I inspected
> > > the board and see nada. What gives?

> > > Ann Phelan
> > > www.bonairecaribbean.com

> > Very likely. This was a problem with older glass masts many years ago... the
> > very thin gel coat of resin on the outer surface wore off, exposing the
> > layer of resin-***d glass underneath. You'd have sparkly hands after
> > picking them up.
> > If a board is old enough, and the gelcoat was a bit thin in one area, it
> > could happen.  You'll know it by looking at the skin in the sun: it will
> > look like a million little diamonds sparkling. If you've ever seen a diamond
> > cutting wheel for a tool to cut stone you'll know what I mean.

> > Best response is to clean board well with acetone, sand back with about 240
> > grade sandpaper and paint on fibreglass resin. (not the deck though!!) That
> > can be a bit hard though, and may lead to resin runs and dribbles if you
> > have not done fibreglass work before.
> > Easy way is to prep as above (good good clean then sandpaper), then spray
> > with a clear auto touchup acrylic paint (not varnish cos it is yellow)
> > It will only last a season max though, you'll have to do it again, as the
> > clear paint is much less resistant to wear than a fibreglass (polyester)
> > resin is.

 
 
 

Fiberglass?

Post by Mark Pain » Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:58:01

To clarify, Ann's board is a 3-year old Angulo Chango85. No fiberglass
shards involved and the deck looks reasonably good. I looked at it on
the rack before this morning's session. :)

Ann, I take it you haven't been rubbing yourself with the leaves of any
manchineel (manzanilla) trees. The urushiol rash usually takes me about
3 weeks to get rid of.

Mark

 
 
 

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Post by ALP » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:02:24

Mark, when  I wear a bikini and carry the board the rash is on my upper
thigh..when I wear my long board shorts it's above the knee..on the
same leg, left. It's something on the board. Do we have Machineel trees
on Bonaire??

Annie

Quote:

> To clarify, Ann's board is a 3-year old Angulo Chango85. No fiberglass
> shards involved and the deck looks reasonably good. I looked at it on
> the rack before this morning's session. :)

> Ann, I take it you haven't been rubbing yourself with the leaves of any
> manchineel (manzanilla) trees. The urushiol rash usually takes me about
> 3 weeks to get rid of.

> Mark