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by **Tom - Chicag** » Wed, 25 May 2005 23:19:32

It is a well known fact that rinsing just reduces you TOW for no good
reason.

Tom - Chicago

Quote:

>I always rinse all my gear after I am done sailing. The way I do it is
> really simple. After I'm done sailing, I derig and pack everything
> into the van. Then, a few days later, I drive somewhere where there is
> water (and wind), rig everything back up, and put it in the water.
> This has worked really well for me. ;-)

>> My HPLs never get stuck with sand, and I don't really rinse them too
>> often.

by **WARDO** » Wed, 25 May 2005 23:40:26

Quote:

> It is a well known fact that rinsing just reduces you TOW for no good
> reason.

I guess it's time to "come clean"...
I'm a rinser...and I'm married to a rinser...pretty much makes us
rinsers, I reckon...as soon as it is dried, it seems it's time to dip it
in salt water again...prolly doesn't much affect the life of the gear...
I've seen folks just wad their stuff up in the back of a truck until
next use...wetsuits and all...yuck!...we constantly flip our
stuff...but, rinsing sure makes it less problematic to use...so, in
effect, it actually increases our TOW...no stuck parts and sandpapered
gear...and I can see through my windows on the wave face...

WARDOG
http://www.surfingsports.com

Quote:

> Tom - Chicago

>>I always rinse all my gear after I am done sailing. The way I do it is
>>really simple. After I'm done sailing, I derig and pack everything
>>into the van. Then, a few days later, I drive somewhere where there is
>>water (and wind), rig everything back up, and put it in the water.
>>This has worked really well for me. ;-)

>>>My HPLs never get stuck with sand, and I don't really rinse them too
>>>often.

by **Juan** » Thu, 26 May 2005 00:55:31

"Do not feel the need to rinse your sail with fresh water. Most urban
water has mineral deposits that dry as white spots on the sail and are
difficult to remove without scratching the sail. Salt water will leave
a slight film but will never adhere to the monofilm."

Hot Sails MicroFreak/MicroSO instructions (just received from no other
than rinser Wardog :-]).

Plus, not rinsing is more environmentally friendly.

++*Juan-- (who only rinses after sailing Palo Alto on a low tide: lots
of mud)

Quote:

>> It is a well known fact that rinsing just reduces you TOW for no good
>> reason.

> I guess it's time to "come clean"...
> I'm a rinser...and I'm married to a rinser...pretty much makes us
> rinsers, I reckon...as soon as it is dried, it seems it's time to dip it
> in salt water again...prolly doesn't much affect the life of the gear...
> I've seen folks just wad their stuff up in the back of a truck until
> next use...wetsuits and all...yuck!...we constantly flip our
> stuff...but, rinsing sure makes it less problematic to use...so, in
> effect, it actually increases our TOW...no stuck parts and sandpapered
> gear...and I can see through my windows on the wave face...

> WARDOG
> http://www.surfingsports.com

>> Tom - Chicago

>> "Paul Braunbehrens"

>>> I always rinse all my gear after I am done sailing. The way I do it is
>>> really simple. After I'm done sailing, I derig and pack everything
>>> into the van. Then, a few days later, I drive somewhere where there is
>>> water (and wind), rig everything back up, and put it in the water.
>>> This has worked really well for me. ;-)

>>>> My HPLs never get stuck with sand, and I don't really rinse them too
>>>> often.

by **Scott** » Thu, 26 May 2005 02:19:47

Bump for any hope of info on the newest contender in the boom wars.
Any dealers out there?
Any one finger this at a trade show?

Quote:

> Any word on the new Streamlined Josh Angulo booms?
> http://www.streamlined.us/booms.htm

> I have enjoyed HPL for years, but I can break them. Usually in the
same
> spot, in the front where the boom arms meet the clamping area.
> Why can't they reinforce this more?
> A little weight at the mast connection would hardly be noticeable and
> would make an otherwise perfect boom more bombproof.

> Anyway, what is the word on the new streamlined models??
> Are they stronger?

by **Ellen Falle** » Thu, 26 May 2005 01:56:11

Cliff,
How about talking to Peet's for some sponsorship??? 8-) You have to
have helped their business, just by getting me hooked.
Ellen

Quote:

> OB disclaimer: I have no affiliation with any product or vendor whatsoever,
> windsurfing or otherwise. There's lots of space on my sails available for
> sponsorship opportunities, but so far no one's offered. I guess my race
> results speak for themselves: go to http://www.calcupevents.com/ and
> click on "2005 CalCup Series Standings".

> Cheers,
> Cliff

by **Scott** » Thu, 26 May 2005 03:01:25

Bump for any hope of info on the newest contender in the boom wars.
Any dealers out there?
Anyone finger this at a trade show?

Quote:

> Any word on the new Streamlined Josh Angulo booms?
> http://www.streamlined.us/booms.htm

> I have enjoyed HPL for years, but I can break them. Usually in the
same
> spot, in the front where the boom arms meet the clamping area.
> Why can't they reinforce this more?
> A little weight at the mast connection would hardly be noticeable and
> would make an otherwise perfect boom more bombproof.

> Anyway, what is the word on the new streamlined models??
> Are they stronger?

by **Jay Halfor** » Thu, 26 May 2005 04:48:34

My twist locks used to fail quite often. Usually it was when it was fully
nukin and I was out in the swell. Drove me nuts. Finally sold the boom.

Jay

Quote:

> Charles, I don't agree with your view on the Twist Lock. As a helpful
> suggestion, the replaceable collars are intended to wear a bit instead of
> the boom itself. That said, most people over-tighten the collars even
> though the Twist Lock collars do not required complete tightening to
> secure a new boom. Simply tighten a bit more over time as the plastic on
> the collars wears with use . The Twist Lock system remains unchanged for
> over ten years because it works so well. It doesn't jam, it holds in the
> toughest surf, and it sacrifices itself to preserve integrity of the boom
> arm. Also, it's a good idea to ensure that each arm extends the same
> distance into the boom body every time. Not only does this reduce wear on
> the collars but helps ensure an even load on each arm of the tail piece.

> I used a single Fiberspar boom for 3 seasons for most sail sizes.
> Probably sailed it 200 times, at least 1/2 of those times in the surf. It
> never failed, nor did I ever replace the Twist Lock collars. Wear on the
> plastic was minimal; I sold the boom with a set of new collars but these
> were never installed; the boom died in the parking lot under the weight of
> a truck.

> -Dan

>> Yes but you have to replace the twist locks every year to keep them form
>> slipping.

>>> Fiberspar, for my money. Unless something has changed in the last
>>> year (I'm comparing to my sailing buddy's HPL) the adjustments work
>>> much better...are less prone to getting stuck with sand. Also, are
>>> they printing length markings on the tailpieces yet?

>>> -Michael (been sailing with FS booms since 1998.)

>>> > It seemed like HPL took the lead couple of years ago but I haven't
>>> seen any
>>> > reviews in the mags lately have things changed?

by **m--newsgu** » Thu, 26 May 2005 06:07:27

Hey Wardog, I brought FS into this...I haven't had the chance to try a
Chinook carbon boom, but my experience and Dan's compare right down
the line. Particularly with not overtightening, the booms are durable,
stiff, light, fast to rig, etc etc. Love them.

Cliff, re <<?I found [fiberspar booms] too fidgety and prone to
problems (I am a klutz). ?I've never
had a single problem with the double-pin system on HPL other than
discoloration
of the pins--which turns out to be a non-problem. ?(Not having numbers
marked on the boom is a moderate PITA with the HPL, though.) >>
I guess it's 'to each his own'...I had repeated trouble with sand in
the HPL's, and the lack of markings is a waste of the sailor's time
when rigging, IMHO.

I have no idea what one gets for the Neil Pryde money in booms...I know
their sails require NP masts (which for me is a reason not to by NP

competition?

by **Glenn Woodel** » Thu, 26 May 2005 10:42:06

Quote:

>It is a well known fact that rinsing just reduces you TOW for no good
>reason.

And in many cases can cause more harm than good. I try not to handle
my unrigged sails any more than I have to. I see many people unrig in
the water while the waves come crashing in and toss the unrolled
remainderl all over the place.

Glenn

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