Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Post by Simon Smit » Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Hello
can anyone help??
i am interested in getting a second hand board and am especially
interested in the F2 SPUTNIK design. If anyone could answer any of the
questions then that would be a great help.  But first a bit of
information on the area around me.
i have only windsurfed on lakes and at the moment only intend to do that

although i am planning to go to the sea sometime this year.  i can use a

harness and am attempting to use the footstraps whenever possible.  The
wind strength is not great and so when i go windsurfing it is only light

to medium winds of around force 1-5.  i am actually hoping to go out in
some of the stronger winds when i am a more accomplished sailor.  i have

a range of sail from a 4.5, 5.5,  6.0, and a 6.5.  this is going to be
my first short board and have only sailed on relatively big boards.  i
am around 57kg and am only 13 so still have a big of growing to go.  i
can only afford a second-hand board as i am buying it myself and have
decided to go for a price range of FREE - 300 (i think that's about
$480)
My Dad has recommended a board of about 120l personally i think this
would be a bit big.  I would like to get a board of around 270-295 but
am not sure if i could use a 270.  Using what i have said would this
choice be good of bad?.

i would like to thank you in advance

Simon Smith (13)

 
 
 

Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Post by sailquik (Roger Jacks » Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> The wind strength is not great and so when i go windsurfing it is only light
>to medium winds of around force 1-5.  i am actually hoping to go out in
>some of the stronger winds when i am a more accomplished sailor.  i have
>a range of sail from a 4.5, 5.5,  6.0, and a 6.5.  this is going to be
>my first short board and have only sailed on relatively big boards.  i
>am around 57kg and am only 13 so still have a big of growing to go.  i
>can only afford a second-hand board as i am buying it myself and have
>decided to go for a price range of FREE - 300 (i think that's about
>$480)
>My Dad has recommended a board of about 120l personally i think this
>would be a bit big.  I would like to get a board of around 270-295 but
>am not sure if i could use a 270.  Using what i have said would this
>choice be good of bad?.

Simon :

The Sputnik 280 would be a great 1st board for someone your size.
With your 6.5 sail it would plane  at your weight in around 11-12 knots. I
used to have one as my lite air slalom board, but traded it in o a 285
Thommen.
There are a couple of things you need to be aware of with the 280 Sputnik.

It's a little fragile, so get a good board bag to go with it. It's plenty
tough, out on the water, but doesn't stand very much abuse on the beach and
while being transported.

It's a fairly technical board to sail. It goes upwind very well, and is
quite fast, even by today's standards, but jibing it takes a whole lot of
commitment, and learning to jibe it might take a bit longer than some other
boards.
When I first got my 280, I really didn't like how it jibed, but I was then
kinda *** footing into my jibes, looking for flat water, a little
reduction in windspeed, anything that I thought would make it easier and
more successful.
What the 280 taught me was to go for it, jibe now, think about it later,
and just stuff the rail and watch the 280 carve. Once I made this
adjustment, in my attitude, commitment, and technique, the 280 was one of
my favorite boards to jibe.
Another board you might want to look for would be a 285 Xanthos. It will be
easier to learn on, jibe like a dream, and is nearly as fast, but much more
ding resistant. It's about 5 liters more volume, and 2.5 pounds heavier.
Hope this helps.
sailquik (Roger Jackson) US 3704 |Ph#in MD 301-872-9459
F2/North Sails/ True Ames/Rainbow|Ph#in NC 919-995-3204
US Sail Lvl 1 WS Instructor

 
 
 

Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Post by Robert Butteric » Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Simon,
  I will offer advise with the following caveats:
    A)I have owned a F2 Sputnick 280, in 105l.  The later boards are
seamless(check the rails) are generally about 100l.  I sail slalom on
lakes.  I have used 6.3m2 to 4.5m2 sails on my sputnik.  
    B) I am a 40 yr old, 200 pound, 6', and fairly aggressive, and love
to go fast.
IMHO, the learning curve is a little steep.  I you are willing to stick
with the board, it can train you.  the board will seem nervous and high
strung, but stabilize as you get accustomed to it.  The 100l version may
be alittle small.  The times I have sail the 4.5 on that board the size
of the board and the wind blown chop was very hard to avoid pearling.
The board has very, very little rocker.  Also the board is fragile and a
board bag is a good thing.  Do a little research and try to find out
what the weight of the board was new and check the used board.  The foam
in that board will suck up the water and negate the floatation.  The
repairs to the nose and tail(the later from a traffic accident) are
fairly easy to repair.  And if you dont do it right, u will get a chance
to redo the repair when it fails.  
 The board, sailed aggressivly is as fast as a scalded dog.
 I dont plan to sell mine.
Steady Wind...
Cookieman

Quote:

> Hello
> can anyone help??
> i am interested in getting a second hand board and am especially
> interested in the F2 SPUTNIK design. If anyone could answer any of the
> questions then that would be a great help.  But first a bit of
> information on the area around me.
> i have only windsurfed on lakes and at the moment only intend to do that

> although i am planning to go to the sea sometime this year.  i can use a

> harness and am attempting to use the footstraps whenever possible.  The
> wind strength is not great and so when i go windsurfing it is only light

> to medium winds of around force 1-5.  i am actually hoping to go out in
> some of the stronger winds when i am a more accomplished sailor.  i have

> a range of sail from a 4.5, 5.5,  6.0, and a 6.5.  this is going to be
> my first short board and have only sailed on relatively big boards.  i
> am around 57kg and am only 13 so still have a big of growing to go.  i
> can only afford a second-hand board as i am buying it myself and have
> decided to go for a price range of FREE - 300 (i think that's about
> $480)
> My Dad has recommended a board of about 120l personally i think this
> would be a bit big.  I would like to get a board of around 270-295 but
> am not sure if i could use a 270.  Using what i have said would this
> choice be good of bad?.

> i would like to thank you in advance

> Simon Smith (13)


 
 
 

Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Post by Wolfgang Soerge » Tue, 03 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hello
> can anyone help??
> i am interested in getting a second hand board and am especially
> interested in the F2 SPUTNIK design. If anyone could answer any of the
> questions then that would be a great help.  But first a bit of
> information on the area around me.
> i have only windsurfed on lakes and at the moment only intend to do that
>  although i am planning to go to the sea sometime this year.  i can use a
> harness and am attempting to use the footstraps whenever possible.  The
> wind strength is not great and so when i go windsurfing it is only light
> to medium winds of around force 1-5.  i am actually hoping to go out in
> some of the stronger winds when i am a more accomplished sailor.  i have

> a range of sail from a 4.5, 5.5,  6.0, and a 6.5.  this is going to be
> my first short board and have only sailed on relatively big boards.  i
> am around 57kg and am only 13 so still have a big of growing to go.  i
> can only afford a second-hand board as i am buying it myself and have
> decided to go for a price range of FREE - 300 (i think that's about
> $480)
> My Dad has recommended a board of about 120l personally i think this
> would be a bit big.  I would like to get a board of around 270-295 but
> am not sure if i could use a 270.  Using what i have said would this
> choice be good of bad?.

120 liters seems about right to me since you seem to have the basics
wired. However i would only go for a Sputnik if it's
an absolutely incredible deal. Those boards are made for racing
which means they are a bit hard to control and manouver and
need to be ridden with plenty power in the sail. Besides
that they are quite fragile, i/e/ dent easily if you drop the
boom on it or tumble onto the deck  with the harness hook.

I'd try to get either a recent Freeride type of board around
120 liters (F2, Fanatic, Mistral, Bic, whatever you can get)
or something similar but older to learn on. You'll
probabely learn fast and maybe within 1 year you know that you
are either more interested in racing (and then can handle the board)
or want something smaller for the surf or you are just grown much bigger
and need something larger or...

Anyhow, i'd get a reasonably cheap board which can stand some abuse
and get your jibes going.

Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Soergel                  
Lehrstuhl fuer Nachrichtentechnik / phone: ++49-9131-857781
Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg  /  fax:   ++49-9131-858849
Cauerstrasse 7             /     email:

D-91058 Erlangen, GERMANY /
http://www.nt.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de/~wsoergel

 
 
 

Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Post by Steve VanKa » Tue, 03 Mar 1998 04:00:00

I recently got a deal I couldn't refuse on an older f2- sputnik.  It
was like new, but somehow I managed to put a pressure ding in it
before I even got it into the water.  
        Last week the wind came up and I went down to Dougs beach to test it
out.  I rigged a 4.5.  There were 2 other guys, one on 4.7 and the
other on 4.2.  IT WAS COLD!   Even though I had a drysuit, my feet
were freezing  and when I fell in, the water felt like somebody shoved
two ice cream cones in my eyes on the exposed skin that my hood didn't
cover.  
        I only took it out for 1 run and my foot straps weren't adjusted
properly.  The run felt very awkward but the one thing I did notice
was how easy the board planed.  I was quite  a bit over powered so I
put on my wave board.  I coudn't believe the difference and was only
marginaly powered on the wave board.  After the wind died I took the
f2 back out... sure enough I could still plane it.  
        I can't believe how easy it planed... The foot straps seem to far back
and I felt to spread out to have good control over the board but I
think I just need to get used to slalom sailing.  
        I'm looking forward to riding my f2 on days when I would normaly be
sitting on the beach waiting for the wind to come up.

Surfsteve.

Quote:


>> =
>> Hello
>> can anyone help??
>> i am interested in getting a second hand board and am especially
>> interested in the F2 SPUTNIK design. If anyone could answer any of the
>> questions then that would be a great help.  But first a bit of
>> information on the area around me.
>> i have only windsurfed on lakes and at the moment only intend to do tha=
>t
>>  although i am planning to go to the sea sometime this year.  i can use=
> a
>> harness and am attempting to use the footstraps whenever possible.  The=
>> wind strength is not great and so when i go windsurfing it is only ligh=
>t
>> to medium winds of around force 1-5.  i am actually hoping to go out in=
>> some of the stronger winds when i am a more accomplished sailor.  i hav=
>e
>> =
>> a range of sail from a 4.5, 5.5,  6.0, and a 6.5.  this is going to be
>> my first short board and have only sailed on relatively big boards.  i
>> am around 57kg and am only 13 so still have a big of growing to go.  i
>> can only afford a second-hand board as i am buying it myself and have
>> decided to go for a price range of FREE - =A3300 (i think that's about
>> $480)
>> My Dad has recommended a board of about 120l personally i think this
>> would be a bit big.  I would like to get a board of around 270-295 but
>> am not sure if i could use a 270.  Using what i have said would this
>> choice be good of bad?.
>120 liters seems about right to me since you seem to have the basics
>wired. However i would only go for a Sputnik if it's
>an absolutely incredible deal. Those boards are made for racing
>which means they are a bit hard to control and manouver and
>need to be ridden with plenty power in the sail. Besides
>that they are quite fragile, i/e/ dent easily if you drop the
>boom on it or tumble onto the deck  with the harness hook.
>I'd try to get either a recent Freeride type of board around
>120 liters (F2, Fanatic, Mistral, Bic, whatever you can get)
>or something similar but older to learn on. You'll
>probabely learn fast and maybe within 1 year you know that you
>are either more interested in racing (and then can handle the board)
>or want something smaller for the surf or you are just grown much bigger
>and need something larger or...
>Anyhow, i'd get a reasonably cheap board which can stand some abuse =
>and get your jibes going.
>Wolfgang
>-- =
>Wolfgang Soergel               =
>Lehrstuhl fuer Nachrichtentechnik / phone: ++49-9131-857781
>Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg  /  fax:   ++49-9131-858849
>Cauerstrasse 7             /     email:

>D-91058 Erlangen, GERMANY /
>http://www.nt.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de/~wsoergel

Surfsteve.

http://w3.gorge.net/surfsteve/
 
 
 

Information??!! F2 SPUTNIK 280

Post by Laurence Robinso » Wed, 04 Mar 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>Hello
>can anyone help??
>i am interested in getting a second hand board and am especially
>interested in the F2 SPUTNIK design. If anyone could answer any of the
>questions then that would be a great help.  But first a bit of
>information on the area around me.
>i have only windsurfed on lakes and at the moment only intend to do that

>although i am planning to go to the sea sometime this year.  i can use a

>harness and am attempting to use the footstraps whenever possible.  The
>wind strength is not great and so when i go windsurfing it is only light

>to medium winds of around force 1-5.  i am actually hoping to go out in
>some of the stronger winds when i am a more accomplished sailor.  i have

>a range of sail from a 4.5, 5.5,  6.0, and a 6.5.  this is going to be
>my first short board and have only sailed on relatively big boards.  i
>am around 57kg and am only 13 so still have a big of growing to go.  i
>can only afford a second-hand board as i am buying it myself and have
>decided to go for a price range of FREE - 300 (i think that's about
>$480)
>My Dad has recommended a board of about 120l personally i think this
>would be a bit big.  I would like to get a board of around 270-295 but
>am not sure if i could use a 270.  Using what i have said would this
>choice be good of bad?.

>i would like to thank you in advance

>Simon Smith (13)

-- Simon,

It depends on who you want to impress.  If you want to impress the guys who
stand around on the beach all day looking at other people's kit then get the
Sputnik.  If you want to impress the guys and girls who are out there sailing
for most of the day then get an easier to sail board on which you will be able
to learn manoeuvres quickly.  (this way you get to impress the guys on the beach
too because they can't see what you are sailing)

I keep an old Mistral Stinger in my beach hut.  It is not the quickest board
onto the plane (or top speed) but it's a sinch to sail well.  If I ever need a
confidence boost or the slalom conditions are very hairy I park up my VX/Thommen
and rig an MPR on the Stinger.  I know I will have a great sail getting all my
gybes and pulling off a few stunts.

The Stinger's big sister the Screamer might be the right board for you.  The
other easy to sail board suggestions in this thread are also good.

Laurence Robinson