old, very old windsurfer

old, very old windsurfer

Post by c » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Hello,

Can anyone tell be about the Alpha Fascination?  It is an old board that I
would like to use while I save up for my Fanatic Bee 144.

Thanks!

 
 
 

old, very old windsurfer

Post by Martin Farrimon » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Well, I think I'd be questioning exactly why I'd want to be sailing it ;-)
Here are the stats:

Length: 370cm
Vol: Somewhere between 200 & 230 litres
Width: 66cm
Weight (get this): 19Kgs
Vintage: 1983/4
Price when new: 550 pounds (UK) - I can pick up a brand new BiC Techno today
for 460 pounds. Who says boards are expensive today?
Construction: Plastic clad reinforced concrete (Blow-moulded polyethylene on
polyurethane foam).

Here's what the testers said back in 1983:  "Doesn't justify its price tag.
Not very good at either gybing or jumping (???). Ok in force 2+, good for
straight line fun in force 4-6, mediocre footsteering.". ...and this was
compared against boards of the day which needed elephantine rail pressure to
footsteer!

Make sure your car has a reinforced roof & take a team to lift it on and off
the roof. I hope you don't have a long walk down the beach!

Good luck,
Martin Farrimond - K62


Quote:
> Hello,

> Can anyone tell be about the Alpha Fascination?  It is an old board that I
> would like to use while I save up for my Fanatic Bee 144.

> Thanks!


 
 
 

old, very old windsurfer

Post by c » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

You are right, it is a real beast.  Nevertheless, this beast was the first
windsurfer I've used and I persevered and learned the basics on it.  It was
also free!  Not too many beginners would have such a great
opportunity--unlimited access to a lake and a free board to beat around and
learn on.  I recently was quoted $3200.00 (Canadian) for a complete
windsurfer.  This seemed to be an average quote for a new windsurfer
(although I have yet to really pursue the used route)  and it is too much
right now.

Thanks

Quote:
> Well, I think I'd be questioning exactly why I'd want to be sailing it ;-)
> Here are the stats:

> Length: 370cm
> Vol: Somewhere between 200 & 230 litres
> Width: 66cm
> Weight (get this): 19Kgs
> Vintage: 1983/4
> Price when new: 550 pounds (UK) - I can pick up a brand new BiC Techno
today
> for 460 pounds. Who says boards are expensive today?
> Construction: Plastic clad reinforced concrete (Blow-moulded polyethylene
on
> polyurethane foam).

> Here's what the testers said back in 1983:  "Doesn't justify its price
tag.
> Not very good at either gybing or jumping (???). Ok in force 2+, good for
> straight line fun in force 4-6, mediocre footsteering.". ...and this was
> compared against boards of the day which needed elephantine rail pressure
to
> footsteer!

> Make sure your car has a reinforced roof & take a team to lift it on and
off
> the roof. I hope you don't have a long walk down the beach!

> Good luck,
> Martin Farrimond - K62



> > Hello,

> > Can anyone tell be about the Alpha Fascination?  It is an old board that
I
> > would like to use while I save up for my Fanatic Bee 144.

> > Thanks!


 
 
 

old, very old windsurfer

Post by Mike » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

The deck of mine (1980 version) was wet, almost awash, when at a standstill,
at 182 pounds (me, not the board). And although it behaved adequately on a
plane, it went prettty unstable when powered to the max, even with their
short, swung-back "high-wind" daggerboard. When I got ready to move on to a
"high-wind board" in about '81, I called half a dozen shops on both coasts
to ask for advice. The majority recommended a Wayler, at 260 liters, 500
pounds (perceived; the scale said only 40 or so), and pushing 400 cm. Not
one of the shops even suggested anything SMALLER than my 12-foot Windsurfer.

BTW, the Windsurfer was a steal. Discounted $100 because its entire nose
seam was split wide open for two feet (it was that or wait 'til next season
to get one), I paid only about $800 U.S. for it. That's probably $1500 in
today's bucks, and every component was a certifiable POS.

My, how things have changed.

--
To reply directly, remove the SpamDam.

Quote:
> You are right, it is a real beast.  Nevertheless, this beast was the first
> windsurfer I've used and I persevered and learned the basics on it.  It
was
> also free!  Not too many beginners would have such a great
> opportunity--unlimited access to a lake and a free board to beat around
and
> learn on.  I recently was quoted $3200.00 (Canadian) for a complete
> windsurfer.  This seemed to be an average quote for a new windsurfer
> (although I have yet to really pursue the used route)  and it is too much
> right now.

> Thanks


> > Well, I think I'd be questioning exactly why I'd want to be sailing it
;-)
> > Here are the stats:

> > Length: 370cm
> > Vol: Somewhere between 200 & 230 litres
> > Width: 66cm
> > Weight (get this): 19Kgs
> > Vintage: 1983/4
> > Price when new: 550 pounds (UK) - I can pick up a brand new BiC Techno
> today
> > for 460 pounds. Who says boards are expensive today?
> > Construction: Plastic clad reinforced concrete (Blow-moulded
polyethylene
> on
> > polyurethane foam).

> > Here's what the testers said back in 1983:  "Doesn't justify its price
> tag.
> > Not very good at either gybing or jumping (???). Ok in force 2+, good
for
> > straight line fun in force 4-6, mediocre footsteering.". ...and this was
> > compared against boards of the day which needed elephantine rail
pressure
> to
> > footsteer!

> > Make sure your car has a reinforced roof & take a team to lift it on and
> off
> > the roof. I hope you don't have a long walk down the beach!

> > Good luck,
> > Martin Farrimond - K62



> > > Hello,

> > > Can anyone tell be about the Alpha Fascination?  It is an old board
that
> I
> > > would like to use while I save up for my Fanatic Bee 144.

> > > Thanks!

 
 
 

old, very old windsurfer

Post by Martin Farrimon » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

The good ole' Wayler (Whaler?) - that was my 1st prize possession of
windsurfing gear back in 1980. Retrospectively, how on earth did we cope
with the stuff then? There mere suggestion that the Wayler be considered a
high-wind board is proof that the advisor is/was certifiable.

Martin Farimond - K62


Quote:
> The deck of mine (1980 version) was wet, almost awash, when at a
standstill,
> at 182 pounds (me, not the board). And although it behaved adequately on a
> plane, it went prettty unstable when powered to the max, even with their
> short, swung-back "high-wind" daggerboard. When I got ready to move on to
a
> "high-wind board" in about '81, I called half a dozen shops on both coasts
> to ask for advice. The majority recommended a Wayler, at 260 liters, 500
> pounds (perceived; the scale said only 40 or so), and pushing 400 cm. Not
> one of the shops even suggested anything SMALLER than my 12-foot
Windsurfer.

> BTW, the Windsurfer was a steal. Discounted $100 because its entire nose
> seam was split wide open for two feet (it was that or wait 'til next
season
> to get one), I paid only about $800 U.S. for it. That's probably $1500 in
> today's bucks, and every component was a certifiable POS.

> My, how things have changed.

> --
> To reply directly, remove the SpamDam.


> > You are right, it is a real beast.  Nevertheless, this beast was the
first
> > windsurfer I've used and I persevered and learned the basics on it.  It
> was
> > also free!  Not too many beginners would have such a great
> > opportunity--unlimited access to a lake and a free board to beat around
> and
> > learn on.  I recently was quoted $3200.00 (Canadian) for a complete
> > windsurfer.  This seemed to be an average quote for a new windsurfer
> > (although I have yet to really pursue the used route)  and it is too
much
> > right now.

> > Thanks


> > > Well, I think I'd be questioning exactly why I'd want to be sailing it
> ;-)
> > > Here are the stats:

> > > Length: 370cm
> > > Vol: Somewhere between 200 & 230 litres
> > > Width: 66cm
> > > Weight (get this): 19Kgs
> > > Vintage: 1983/4
> > > Price when new: 550 pounds (UK) - I can pick up a brand new BiC Techno
> > today
> > > for 460 pounds. Who says boards are expensive today?
> > > Construction: Plastic clad reinforced concrete (Blow-moulded
> polyethylene
> > on
> > > polyurethane foam).

> > > Here's what the testers said back in 1983:  "Doesn't justify its price
> > tag.
> > > Not very good at either gybing or jumping (???). Ok in force 2+, good
> for
> > > straight line fun in force 4-6, mediocre footsteering.". ...and this
was
> > > compared against boards of the day which needed elephantine rail
> pressure
> > to
> > > footsteer!

> > > Make sure your car has a reinforced roof & take a team to lift it on
and
> > off
> > > the roof. I hope you don't have a long walk down the beach!

> > > Good luck,
> > > Martin Farrimond - K62



> > > > Hello,

> > > > Can anyone tell be about the Alpha Fascination?  It is an old board
> that
> > I
> > > > would like to use while I save up for my Fanatic Bee 144.

> > > > Thanks!