HiFly Widestyle 323 vs. F2 Xantos 310 vs. F2 Phoenix 320 etc......

HiFly Widestyle 323 vs. F2 Xantos 310 vs. F2 Phoenix 320 etc......

Post by James L » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00


I am a casual semi competent SuperLight longboarder who has been using
my harness for a long while but starting to feel limited by the 12 and
a half feet of my board.  I have done some research and wanted to know
anyones opinions, good, bad and indifferent, on the three boards
1) HiFly 'widestyle' 323   2)  F2 Xantos 310 or 325(?)  and
speculation on the newly announced F2 Phoenix 320.   And as long as I
am at it how about feelings about taking advantage of the older
designs that seem to be selling for such reasonable prices these days
such as the Fanatic Snake 315 and Mistral Explosion 315?
I realize that the HiFly stands out as the hefty one at 36lbs but the
price on it with the North rig makes it appear, on paper at least, to
be a genuine attempt to get 'casual longboarders' such as myself
into the straps and planing away without having to worry too much
about getting marooned in the middle of my inland lake at a very
reasonable cost.  I am planning on keeping my Superlight for those
really skunky days as it is in excellent condition and I have become
attached to it in the past few 'casual longboarding' years.   I do
have a Mistral Competition SST in excellent shape in case anyone
is stuck, like me more than 4 hours out of Hatteras, for sale.  
Any and all information, and especially strong opinions and visceral
reactions would be most appreciated.  
Thanks,  Jim Lee
 
 
 

HiFly Widestyle 323 vs. F2 Xantos 310 vs. F2 Phoenix 320 etc......

Post by Neil » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Any and all information, and especially strong opinions and visceral
> reactions would be most appreciated.
> Thanks,  Jim Lee

Ok, you asked.  I have a Xantos 325 which I adore.  That board & a North
8.5 Pyro have bought me more time in the footstraps in the crappy 1998 NJ
wind than you can imagine.  The board is, for me, an ideal combination of
durability (brick shithouse), weight ( about 23 lbs), early planing (the
only guys that plane sooner weigh less than I do, and I'm 170 lbs.) speed
(excellent for a 170 liter board, faster than One Design's, etc.) and
range.  I have sailed the thing in 5.0 conditions, just for kicks.  It
rides through chop & swells like the Wellcraft on Miami Vice.  Loads of
fun.  Will plane through a jibe in very light wind, but requires finesse.
I can duck a 7.0 spectro on it (at least on starboard<g>).  I'm constantly
ribbed by other sailors to get on a smaller board (I have an Axxis 272,
which I also love, but its a little sinky for inconsistent, gusty wind &
brittle) but the 325 is totally fun.  The wind in NJ has mostly sucked
this year, what there has been has been gusty as hell.  The 325 is nearly
as comfortable as an Equipe in lulls & sub-planing conditions, though not
nearly as fast.  It does, however have the flotation & stability of a
dock.  Just my opinions, but you asked.  Your mileage may vary. I'm not
knocking any other boards of this type, just telling my experiences on
this one.  If you're in the Sandy Hook area & want to take it for a spin,
flag me down.  I'll be the guy planing in the straps when the
shortboard/wind snobs are reading ws mags on the beach.  BTW, the Bic
Veloce 328 is also an _excellent_ choice for someone in your position.

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-=Neil=-


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HiFly Widestyle 323 vs. F2 Xantos 310 vs. F2 Phoenix 320 etc......

Post by Robert Youda » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00

You mentioned the Mistral Explosion 315. I have their newer Explosion 295
and can strongly recommend it. It costs a lot though ($2100 in Australia)
but so far is worth every cent! A good mid length board that floats in low
wind and goes like a rocket in strong wind. Very solid feel (carbon hepls
there, I guess), and, I love it!

Rob

 
 
 

HiFly Widestyle 323 vs. F2 Xantos 310 vs. F2 Phoenix 320 etc......

Post by Sonicspe » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
Lee) writes:
>I am a casual semi competent SuperLight longboarder who has been using
>my harness for a long while but starting to feel limited by the 12 and
>a half feet of my board.  I have done some research and wanted to know
>anyones opinions, good, bad and indifferent, on the three boards
>1) HiFly 'widestyle' 323   2)  F2 Xantos 310 or 325(?)  and
>speculation on the newly announced F2 Phoenix 320.   And as long as I
>am at it how about feelings about taking advantage of the older
>designs that seem to be selling for such reasonable prices these days
>such as the Fanatic Snake 315 and Mistral Explosion 315?
>I realize that the HiFly stands out as the hefty one at 36lbs but the
>price on it with the North rig makes it appear, on paper at least, to
>be a genuine attempt to get 'casual longboarders' such as myself
>into the straps and planing away without having to worry too much
>about getting marooned in the middle of my inland lake at a very
>reasonable cost.  I am planning on keeping my Superlight for those
>really skunky days as it is in excellent condition and I have become
>attached to it in the past few 'casual longboarding' years.   I do
>have a Mistral Competition SST in excellent shape in case anyone
>is stuck, like me more than 4 hours out of Hatteras, for sale.  
>Any and all information, and especially strong opinions and visceral
>reactions would be most appreciated.  
>Thanks,  Jim Lee

You may have read Sailquik's earlier post about the "Awesome New Phoenix 320".
I am the 215 lb guy he let take it for a spin (thanks, Rog!).  Roger was right
on, this board is awesome!  I have a Veloce 328 and the Phoenix 320 definitely
planes up much earlier, as it has several pounds less weight and sports a nice
wide tail.  It looks cool, too (IMHO).  If you're looking for a machine which
will maximize your planing time, while still having a centerboard, check this
machine out!

As a caveat I have to tell you that the motor Roger put on this board was the
8.5 Sailworks Retro Raceboard.  This no-cam sail surprised me with its tractor
pull low end.  It sure made me a no-cam believer!  If your goal is indeed to
get planing and in the straps on marginal wind days, this combination would be
hard to beat.  It will set you back a few bucks, but I'd bet you would be one
of the earliest planers at the beach.

There's value in lower cost HiFlys and Bics, however, there is a tradeoff -
more weight.  More weight = more wind required to plane.

Mike
US-3855