Big Wind : Small Sail = Small Wind : Big Sail?

Big Wind : Small Sail = Small Wind : Big Sail?

Post by John Snyd » Thu, 08 Sep 1994 09:19:40


I've gone to the Gorge and taken lessons with big wind [for me] 15-20 mph.
Then I come home to my local lake with mild wind [5-10 mph]
Can I get a huge sail [there's a 9.0 for sale in paper], and simulate the
experience? I'm working on 'High wind Stance, Using a harness and foot
straps, and Jibing]
10 Q
John, [windless in Seattle]
 
 
 

Big Wind : Small Sail = Small Wind : Big Sail?

Post by brune.. » Thu, 08 Sep 1994 21:03:51

John, windless in Seattle writes:

Quote:
>I've gone to the Gorge and taken lessons with big wind [for me] 15-20 mph.
>Then I come home to my local lake with mild wind [5-10 mph]
>Can I get a huge sail [there's a 9.0 for sale in paper], and simulate the
>experience? I'm working on 'High wind Stance, Using a harness and foot
>straps, and Jibing]

Well, that sure sounds familiar...never been to the Gorge, but I've taken
vacations in Cancun, Aruba, and Margarita...Hatteras and Cape Cod when
I get a chance.  Its pretty different getting back to the light, variable winds
of upstate NY.  

It AIN'T gonna be the same, but using a big sail in light winds is the next
best thing.  With the right board, you can get planing with an 8-9 sq meter
sail in 10 knots or less, and once you're planing, you can get in the straps,
jibe, etc.  You'll be forced to get pretty proficient at sail handling...
*** a jumbo sail around during a jibe is a lot different than doing it
with a 4.0.

Water starts are NO FUN with a huge sail and a big board...MUCH easier
in higher winds with smaller boards and sails...bite the bullet and uphaul,
its usually easier.  Also, with a Jumbo sail, you are at the mercy of wind
gusts.  Our typical June days are really Zero-15.  A 10-mph gust is pretty
potent when you're standing flat-footed holding a 9.0.

One more piece of advice:  GO LIGHT.  Get a modern monofilm sail with
at least 3 cambers, a carbon mast, and a good strong, but light boom.
Your boom length will be about 8 ft, and your mast about 17 feet, so
you'll probably need extensions on both.  The lighter that rig is, the
happier you'll be when you try to uphaul it.  The cambers really help
to keep the sail shape in the light conditions.  

To all you guys at the Gorge or SF who are snickering about this---Hey
it's better than fishing!  And we get to pay high taxes, too.

The Alchemist

 
 
 

Big Wind : Small Sail = Small Wind : Big Sail?

Post by Brad Ritt » Fri, 09 Sep 1994 03:47:51

: I've gone to the Gorge and taken lessons with big wind [for me] 15-20 mph.
: Then I come home to my local lake with mild wind [5-10 mph]
: Can I get a huge sail [there's a 9.0 for sale in paper], and simulate the
: experience?

No.  :-(

 
 
 

Big Wind : Small Sail = Small Wind : Big Sail?

Post by phane » Fri, 09 Sep 1994 23:14:12

: John, windless in Seattle writes:

: >I've gone to the Gorge and taken lessons with big wind [for me] 15-20 mph.
: >Then I come home to my local lake with mild wind [5-10 mph]
: >Can I get a huge sail [there's a 9.0 for sale in paper], and simulate the
: >experience? I'm working on 'High wind Stance, Using a harness and foot
: >straps, and Jibing]

: Well, that sure sounds familiar...never been to the Gorge, but I've taken
: vacations in Cancun, Aruba, and Margarita...Hatteras and Cape Cod when
: I get a chance.  Its pretty different getting back to the light, variable winds
: of upstate NY.  

: It AIN'T gonna be the same, but using a big sail in light winds is the next
: best thing.  With the right board, you can get planing with an 8-9 sq meter
: sail in 10 knots or less, and once you're planing, you can get in the straps,
: jibe, etc.  You'll be forced to get pretty proficient at sail handling...
: *** a jumbo sail around during a jibe is a lot different than doing it
: with a 4.0.

: Water starts are NO FUN with a huge sail and a big board...MUCH easier
: in higher winds with smaller boards and sails...bite the bullet and uphaul,
: its usually easier.  Also, with a Jumbo sail, you are at the mercy of wind
: gusts.  Our typical June days are really Zero-15.  A 10-mph gust is pretty
: potent when you're standing flat-footed holding a 9.0.

: One more piece of advice:  GO LIGHT.  Get a modern monofilm sail with
: at least 3 cambers, a carbon mast, and a good strong, but light boom.
: Your boom length will be about 8 ft, and your mast about 17 feet, so
: you'll probably need extensions on both.  The lighter that rig is, the
: happier you'll be when you try to uphaul it.  The cambers really help
: to keep the sail shape in the light conditions.  

: To all you guys at the Gorge or SF who are snickering about this---Hey
: it's better than fishing!  And we get to pay high taxes, too.

: The Alchemist

In no wind San Diego people are routinely planing in about ten knots
of wind.  Most are using large slalom boards with 7.5 sails.  The
enjoyment factor really drops off when you get much bigger sails (I
know gorgeheads say the same thing about anything over 4.5).  The sail
of choice is the Aeroforce double luff.  They are local, custom and
relatively expensive but will keep you on a plane while others are
on the beach.

After attending an ABK camp in Rio Vista with 20-30 knot winds, I can
definately say that it just aint the same when you have to rig up.  It's
still the best way I can think of to spend my time and money.

Regards,

Dave P.

 
 
 

Big Wind : Small Sail = Small Wind : Big Sail?

Post by Paul Billing » Sat, 10 Sep 1994 21:07:42

Quote:

> I've gone to the Gorge and taken lessons with big wind [for me] 15-20 mph.
> Then I come home to my local lake with mild wind [5-10 mph]
> Can I get a huge sail [there's a 9.0 for sale in paper], and simulate the
> experience? I'm working on 'High wind Stance, Using a harness and foot
> straps, and Jibing]

Sure, to some extent.  Stance, Straps, and harness work no problem.  You'll
notice a difference in jibing.  The carve, sail flip, everything is slower.  
You also have to have better technique to exit with speed since you don't have
as much to begin with.  On the plus side is that there's no chop with a 9.0!
________________________________________________________________________
Paul Billings -- US366 (Maui)
9.2 Gem and 8.8 Strapper slalom, 8.6 RealWind and 8.6 Hi-Tech wave board
Sick air starts at thirty feet up!