The History of Windsurfing.

The History of Windsurfing.

Post by The Do » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 05:42:39


Quote:

> Ooops, sorry, I wasn't trying to be competitive (ie make anyone surrender).
> I genuinely like to talk about this stuff, I think I have one of the funnest
> jobs going.  So I guess I tend to gas on and on about it...

It's OK, Cliff..   I was trying to be funny and didn't get it across.
And I used to love the stuff too.  But too many years on the front
lines took the fun out of it for me.  I keep forgetting that it's been
almost five years since I got out of telecom.  

Dog

 
 
 

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Post by oneup.ag.. » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:32:16

"IP addresses change regularly..."

Brucie, you cretin, my IP address has been the same for over three
years.  How do I know?  Because I connect back to it from remote
locations many times daily.

If what you said were actually true, then you could again access
www.boards.co.uk, the site that evicted you and blocks your IP.  If you
had a new IP address this week, then you could get a new account and
continue slathering on the manure.  But you can't get in there (I can,
though).

Incidentally, big guy, they're still chuckling at you, sinbad the
meathead.

"Bank security companies have a close watch on his posting, of course
not for the content, but for the activity..."

Total and complete BS, you moron.  How would you possibly know such a
thing?  You barely know your own name.  (One day you're Bruce, the next
day you're Robby.)

Quote:

> IP addresses change regularly.  You can't track computers with them
> other than immediately.  Oneup or the Brucie Stalker as he's know on
> Yahoo is best ignored by users.  Bank security companies have a close
> watch on his posting, of course not for the content, but for the
> activity.


> > > ps I've been wondering if "oneup" isn't really just another of mr chuck's
> > >    aliases.  They spell differently, but have some obsessiveness in common.  ;-)

> > It's possible, though they do post from different IP addresses.  I seem
> > to recall that Chuckles IP traces back to Weed's neighborhood and
> > One-Up seems to be a generic IP coming out of the middle of the country
> > (which is common for people posting from certain big ISP's).

> > Dog


 
 
 

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Post by oneup.ag.. » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:59:03

"Former injiner...  I no longer practice...  And don't miss it a
bit..."

I hear ya...... I read your Web site.  Perhaps I'm lucky that I can
dabble in eng'g and dabble in another excellent (and very lucrative)
profession that's related to but not eng'g.

And it still leaves a few minutes daily for my favorite entertainment
-- the thrill of the hunt for a certain bozo.

Anyway, once a injiner, always a injiner.

Enjoy your new profession.  There's nothing better than making money
doing what you enjoy most.  In many ways, you're better off than most.

Quote:


> > Dog,

> > Yes, beside His Eminence.

> Exception for "he had it comin' " is hereby granted.

> > BTW -- I respect that you're a fellow injiner.

> Former injiner...  I no longer practice...  And don't miss it a bit.
> But that part of my brain comes in handy around the shop sometimes.

> Dog


 
 
 

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Post by Windsurfin » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:29:36

Have ... got ... to ... stop ... reading ... this ... at ... work.  Not
good when everyone stares at me for laughing out loud.
Quote:

> "...all you has-beens with deep knowledge of old and obsolete
> technology write a >>History of WSing<<....."

> Brucie, considering that you're 57 years old, you're the quintessential
> "has been."  Of course, you don't know squat about technology, new or
> old, so you have nothing to write about.  And you can't write to save
> your worthless life...

> "...I could have been a contender..."

> Brucie, you're a contender only for Idiot of The Year award.

> (Does mom still call you "Idiot Swift"?)


> > Let me suggest that all you has-beens with deep knowledge of old and
> > obsolete technology write a >>History of WSing<<.  You might have to
> > pay a publisher to print it, though, as it's doubtful it will sell or
> > attract many readers today.  However, perhaps after sitting in a
> > library for 100 years gathering dust some researcher might find it
> > interesting.  Nevertheless, you should edit out that >>I could have
> > been a contender<< attitude as it rather seems like sour grapes.

 
 
 

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Post by cosmicharli » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:51:06

 >>I probably should have worded it differently.<<  Dog, you certainly
should have.  It's you who has egg all over your face and your foot in
your mouth.  I would change my name to Monkey, if I was you.  In fact,
you guys are more  fun than a barrel of them, so why not change it to
Monkey1 or Monkey2?  The others will follow.

 
 
 

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Post by cosmicharli » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:01:52

First of all,  I was surprised at all the response to this top post of
mine.  When I composed it, I had the posts of Dan Weiss in mind.  Much
of the information provided here becomes terribly esoteric and arcane
in a nano-second.  Secondly, Kalmus isn't worth making a travel
destination.  It's peopled mainly by tourists and Hyannis locals, none
of whom are worth knowing.  I also don't doubt that most of them are
sailing on old equipment being beach bums who can't afford new.
Finally, I never claimed I was someone to watch on the water like you
suggest you are.
Quote:


> > Let me suggest that all you has-beens with deep knowledge of old and
> > obsolete technology write a >>History of WSing<<.  You might have to
> > pay a publisher to print it, though, as it's doubtful it will sell or
> > attract many readers today.  However, perhaps after sitting in a
> > library for 100 years gathering dust some researcher might find it
> > interesting.  Nevertheless, you should edit out that >>I could have
> > been a contender<< attitude as it rather seems like sour grapes.

> There's a lot of history, deep knowledge at Kalmus Beach. Why don't you
> come over and show all the has-beens how it's done.  Word's spreading
> about you.. remember, look before you jibe. :-)

 
 
 

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Post by cosmicharli » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:33:13

Certainly, it's more current than all that stuff about old longboards
or when mast tracks were moved back.  If a guy is looking for a board
with a mast track forward, he is going to be looking for a needle in a
haystack.  Once he finds the needle, there'll be all these asnine forum
posters dancing on top of it.  If you want to find your IPS number just
go to Yahoo boards and try posting.  It's listed at the top of the
page.  However, be careful what you post as the puke i.d. thief will be
lurking.
Quote:

> Ooops, sorry, I wasn't trying to be competitive (ie make anyone surrender).
> I genuinely like to talk about this stuff, I think I have one of the funnest
> jobs going.  So I guess I tend to gas on and on about it...

> Now returning to your regularly scheduled newsgroup...

>     Thanks,
>           Cliff




> > > > While you're recovering, could you please see to it that IPv6 (finally)
> > > > takes off?

> > > > ;-)

> > > > Florian

> > > We're trying to do our part.  It's available, native, on all the Berkeley campus
> > > network (approx 46,000 computers).  My dept has a few unix systems running ipv6
> > > natively.  Unfortunately, that means my dept has about half the systems on campus
> > > that are running it native.  ;-)  (My dept runs the network.)

> > OK...  OK...  I surrender.  Things have obviously changed a bunch in
> > the 5 years since I threw in the hardware design engineering towel to
> > go windsurfing full time.

> > (see how I kept it on topic?)

> > Frankly, as long as my cell phone and DSL keep working, I could care
> > less about how they work.

> > Dog

 
 
 

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Post by The Do » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:46:41

Quote:

> >>I probably should have worded it differently.<<  Dog, you certainly
> should have.

How about this then....

Remove your thumbs from their current location and your typing will
make more sense, Mr 72.72.49.151 (still)

Dog

 
 
 

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Post by zephy » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:50:24


Quote:



>> at

>> > I've powered down the modem several times just to see if I'd get a new
>> > IP.  No such luck.  I guess I won't ever be able to resort to sock
>> > puppets to make my case.   ;-)

>> In my case it only seems to happen when Comcast is up to something like
>> *improving* the service. ;)

>> I can't generate it on my own.

> If they do major DSLAM maintenance, I suspect mine might change.  All
> depends on the tech who does the swap.  I'm sure there are new
> techniques and software since I was in the biz.

> Dog

Hey guys,  Just a little about the static ip thing.

Take a look at your router, or modem config page and you will notice a lease
date along with the other dns server  and gateway addresses and such.
if you turned off your modem so that it extended past the expiry on your
lease date you would get a new IP.

when you establish a dhcp server you can set up how long each "lease" should
be.  for those of us that leave our modems on all the time and don't
experience frequent power outages you should typically have a somewhat
"static" ip.

Dave

 
 
 

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Post by zephy » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:59:49


Quote:


>> said:

>> > At Berkeley we're working on implementing DDNS (Dynamic Domain Name
>> > Service) so
>> > that DHCP hosts can have fixed domain names while changing IP
>> > addresses.  I expect
>> > DDNS to become extremely common once the technology stabilizes and
>> > disperses.

>> > Now we've hijacked "The History of Windsurfing" into "History of the
>> > Internet",
>> > but what the heck.
>> > On topic: I'm scheduling a micro-discectomy asap and hoping this will
>> > enable me to return to windsurfing in a few months.

>> While you're recovering, could you please see to it that IPv6 (finally)
>> takes off?

>> ;-)

>> Florian

> We're trying to do our part.  It's available, native, on all the Berkeley
> campus
> network (approx 46,000 computers).  My dept has a few unix systems running
> ipv6
> natively.  Unfortunately, that means my dept has about half the systems on
> campus
> that are running it native.  ;-)  (My dept runs the network.)

> It is comparatively common overseas, at least in research universities.
> But
> for real connectivity you still need NAT-like boxes to talk with "the
> Internet".

> I'm becoming more and more sceptical that IPv6 will ever replace IPv4.
> I'm
> thinking that the replacement for IPv4 will more likely come from some
> project
> out of the NSF's GENI program.

> Did you know that it's practically impossible to get a
> Provider-independent IPv6
> address block (at least in the US)?  All that address space and the
> hoarding has
> already begun!  ;-)

>    Cheers,
>         Cliff

Cliff,

Thats a little disappointing to hear...
although, if you think about how well the US has adapted to the metric
system a switch to IPv6 should not really be all that surprising.

at least we all do our part with litre boards meter sails and cm masts.  :)

Dave

 
 
 

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Post by Florian Feuse » Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:47:27


Quote:
>> Did you know that it's practically impossible to get a
>> Provider-independent IPv6
>> address block (at least in the US)?  All that address space and the
>> hoarding has
>> already begun!  ;-)

\

Quote:

> Thats a little disappointing to hear...
> although, if you think about how well the US has adapted to the metric
> system a switch to IPv6 should not really be all that surprising.

> at least we all do our part with litre boards meter sails and cm masts.  :)

I was kidding actually - I am still on the fence about IPv6. Doesn't
make too much sense to me to disproportionally complicate the address
to simplify routing. I prefer numbers I can actually remember. 7 digit
phone numbers are already pushing it....

florian

 
 
 

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Post by Zephy » Sun, 08 Oct 2006 03:04:41

Quote:

> I was kidding actually - I am still on the fence about IPv6. Doesn't
> make too much sense to me to disproportionally complicate the address
> to simplify routing. I prefer numbers I can actually remember. 7 digit
> phone numbers are already pushing it....

> florian

its going to be tough to remember that many more digits, but - and i
guess this speaks to my geekness -   I can't typically rember phone
numbers, but an ip seems to be no problem for me.  Who knows,  maybe
the worry about running out of numbers will be solved in some other
fashion,

Dave

 
 
 

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Post by Kurt » Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:13:35

You all disappoint me by ignoring the History of windsurfing. Here's
a summary:

1948, In transition from his life as an earthworm to that of a
human being, cosmicharlie comes to twenty-year old Newman Darby in a dream
and describes the "universal joint."

1965, As Darby failed to patent the universal joint, the
youthful cosmicharlie approaches Hoyle Schweitzer and Jim Drake in an
attempt to get development back on track. By the end of 1968, this results
in the patent of the first windsurf board, the "Windsurfer"

1977 cosmicharlie, using the alias, Derk Thijs, sailed with 17.1 knots.

1982 cosmicharlie, using the alias, Pascal Maka bumped the record up to
27.82 knots at Weymouth.

1980's cosmicharlie brings aluminum booms, pintail boards, and mylar sails
to the world of windsurfing. He also discovers the Gorge.

2004 cosmicharlie, using the alias, Finian Maynard sets a new
record of 46.82 knots at the Trench.

1990's cosmicharlie designs sails that "twist." He also influences the
widespread use of carbon fiber resulting in lighter and more responsive
rigs.

Today cosmicharlie, worn out from all of his accomplishments, moves back
home to live with his mother. Out of great generosity, cosmicharlie shares
his wealth of knowledge with the common people who read the
rec.windsurfing newsgroup. The members of rec.windsurfing are awed
by his presence.

Quote:

> Let me suggest that all you has-beens with deep knowledge of old and
> obsolete technology write a >>History of WSing<<.  You might have to
> pay a publisher to print it, though, as it's doubtful it will sell or
> attract many readers today.  However, perhaps after sitting in a
> library for 100 years gathering dust some researcher might find it
> interesting.  Nevertheless, you should edit out that >>I could have
> been a contender<< attitude as it rather seems like sour grapes.

 
 
 

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Post by cosmicharli » Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:07:53

Now, that's a good start.  However, you forgot to add that in the late
'90's I discovered that the forward mast track position on an
on-the-fly adjustable mast track and the back position of an old surf
designs board were in an identical cosmic position.  This lead to the
Y2K mast track position and served as the inflater of the tech bubble.
Futhermore, you didn't include the accomplishement that I am most proud
of i.e. that of wispering the  the phrase >>short board<<  in the ear
of Robby at a Luau and created the mass movement to them.  Finally,
there was my one night stand with Anette Fornicello at Huntington beach
which shifted the cultural center of the universe to Haight-Ashbury.
Quote:

> You all disappoint me by ignoring the History of windsurfing. Here's
> a summary:

> 1948, In transition from his life as an earthworm to that of a
> human being, cosmicharlie comes to twenty-year old Newman Darby in a dream
> and describes the "universal joint."

> 1965, As Darby failed to patent the universal joint, the
> youthful cosmicharlie approaches Hoyle Schweitzer and Jim Drake in an
> attempt to get development back on track. By the end of 1968, this results
> in the patent of the first windsurf board, the "Windsurfer"

> 1977 cosmicharlie, using the alias, Derk Thijs, sailed with 17.1 knots.

> 1982 cosmicharlie, using the alias, Pascal Maka bumped the record up to
> 27.82 knots at Weymouth.

> 1980's cosmicharlie brings aluminum booms, pintail boards, and mylar sails
> to the world of windsurfing. He also discovers the Gorge.

> 2004 cosmicharlie, using the alias, Finian Maynard sets a new
> record of 46.82 knots at the Trench.

> 1990's cosmicharlie designs sails that "twist." He also influences the
> widespread use of carbon fiber resulting in lighter and more responsive
> rigs.

> Today cosmicharlie, worn out from all of his accomplishments, moves back
> home to live with his mother. Out of great generosity, cosmicharlie shares
> his wealth of knowledge with the common people who read the
> rec.windsurfing newsgroup. The members of rec.windsurfing are awed
> by his presence.


> > Let me suggest that all you has-beens with deep knowledge of old and
> > obsolete technology write a >>History of WSing<<.  You might have to
> > pay a publisher to print it, though, as it's doubtful it will sell or
> > attract many readers today.  However, perhaps after sitting in a
> > library for 100 years gathering dust some researcher might find it
> > interesting.  Nevertheless, you should edit out that >>I could have
> > been a contender<< attitude as it rather seems like sour grapes.

 
 
 

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Post by cosmicharli » Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:51:09

Gee, it still is.  If you get your kicks watching IPS numbers, I
certainly feel sorry for you.  If you can see mine, just think what a
good hacker can do?  Luckily for us, Oneup is not a good hacker.  Marky
whacks under his desk more than he hacks on top of it down there in
Florida.  Amazing, isn't it, how much you two have in common.  He's
been single for a long time.  Ever since Kris Vogel jilted him on the
Labor Ready board, he's been whacking away.  The two of them had great
***sex which is the only sex he's ever known.
Quote:


> > >>I probably should have worded it differently.<<  Dog, you certainly
> > should have.

> How about this then....

> Remove your thumbs from their current location and your typing will
> make more sense, Mr 72.72.49.151 (still)

> Dog