Carve 99 question

Carve 99 question

Post by Lois Stufflebea » Wed, 09 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Anybody have an opinion on the Carve 99?  It got such a good review in
the American Windsurfer board test, I am interested in buying one.  But
no one around here has one, so I have not even seen the board.    I am
looking to have this board as my "big" board in Margarita, and to use it
with probably a 6.0 or 6.5 sail.  

Any comments on this board would be appreciated.

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Mar » Wed, 09 Aug 2000 04:00:00

If you get one, please let us know how it works out for you... I'm
interested too!

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Ellen Falle » Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Lois,
  I've only used the Carve 99 for about 30 minutes, but it was great for
6.0! I'm planning on getting one next year, but that may be too long for
you to wait!
  Ellen
Quote:

> Anybody have an opinion on the Carve 99?  It got such a good review in
> the American Windsurfer board test, I am interested in buying one.  But
> no one around here has one, so I have not even seen the board.    I am
> looking to have this board as my "big" board in Margarita, and to use it
> with probably a 6.0 or 6.5 sail.

> Any comments on this board would be appreciated.


 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Drew Marshal » Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:32:19

Quote:

> Anybody have an opinion on the Carve 99?  It got such a good review in
> the American Windsurfer board test, I am interested in buying one.  But
> no one around here has one, so I have not even seen the board.    I am
> looking to have this board as my "big" board in Margarita, and to use it
> with probably a 6.0 or 6.5 sail.

> Any comments on this board would be appreciated.

Lois (and other interested dudes).....

Bought this board around December last year. It absolutely saved my season
over here in Western Australia. I traded in an old Fanatic Gecko 265 (which
was a great board in its day).... and I couldn't believe how much earlier
it planes. My largest sail is a 5.4 NP Soul (which incidentally is a great
sail for early planing and complements the board well).

The winds over here were not as strong as normal, meaning wave boards were
hard work. I got out most days after work in what I reckon to be
considerably less than 15kts. Can't say exactly how much, but no white caps
:-/

Gybing these things is too easy ... because there's volume everywhere ....
they turn very smoothly.

I've sailed mine in waves (e.g. Lancelin, Perth) ... and flat water (The
Swan River) ... and cannot recommend this board highly enough. I was talked
out of the F2 Air at the time (AUD 200 more) and have never looked back.
(thanks to Pelican Pt Windsurf Shop).

I guess these days, it very much depends on what you're up to on the water
and what you're after in a board. IMHO the beauty of it would be spoiled by
a big rig ( > 6.0 ) but then I'm small sail biased. The board is more about
manoeuvres then straight line speed or marching upwind in a hurry.

So feel free to post any more specific questions you have. Love talking
about it ... as I'm waiting for summer.

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Endo » Wed, 23 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I'm looking for a 60cm wide board for bump and jump and general all
round use.

I got sails from 5.0 to 7.0 and thought the Carve 99 would be good.
I'm also looking at the AHD Free Diamond 60.

I'm a bit worried about the 99L size being too small for me. I'm 70kg
(about 150 lbs) and sail in winds ranging from 15kts to 30kts.....in
the Montreal area.

Would I get much use out of this board in this environment and
considering my weight?

I'll eventually get a light wind board, but I want to start off with
the smaller one since I enjoy that more and already have most the
gear.

Should I go for a 110L size instead like the AHD FD65 or does the
freestyle aspect suffer too much?

Has anyone tried both these boards?

Endo

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Wolfgang Soerge » Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> I'm looking for a 60cm wide board for bump and jump and general all
> round use.

> I got sails from 5.0 to 7.0 and thought the Carve 99 would be good.
> I'm also looking at the AHD Free Diamond 60.

> I'm a bit worried about the 99L size being too small for me. I'm 70kg
> (about 150 lbs) and sail in winds ranging from 15kts to 30kts.....in
> the Montreal area.

> Would I get much use out of this board in this environment and
> considering my weight?

> I'll eventually get a light wind board, but I want to start off with
> the smaller one since I enjoy that more and already have most the
> gear.

That's a volume range where you probabely should try out, if it's enough
for you. I'm around 62 kg and for me, 90 liters (in a 260/60 wide
freestyler, not unsimilar to the AHD Maxxes in shape) is enough but that
may depend on experience and preference. I'd think that for a "small"
board, with something bigger in reserve and really 15 knots of wind (not
just gusts to 15) you're OK with 99l. If it's meant to be your "big"
board and frequently must be slogged around, then it may be too small.
Probabely hard to tell for anyone, especially since you just began
sailing but progressed rapidely, if i remember correctly.

--
Wolfgang

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Endo » Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Yeah....I think a 105L to 110L board would be better for me. That way
I can still uphaul if I need to. Maybe a Mistral Score 111, AHD FD 65,
HiFly 272 or Skate 266 would be better.

I read a review today of the Carve 99 and the reviewer said it felt
kinda dead for some reason. I read another review that said it slogged
as well. Something to do with the rocker I guess.

Endo



Quote:

>> I'm looking for a 60cm wide board for bump and jump and general all
>> round use.

>> I got sails from 5.0 to 7.0 and thought the Carve 99 would be good.
>> I'm also looking at the AHD Free Diamond 60.

>> I'm a bit worried about the 99L size being too small for me. I'm 70kg
>> (about 150 lbs) and sail in winds ranging from 15kts to 30kts.....in
>> the Montreal area.

>> Would I get much use out of this board in this environment and
>> considering my weight?

>> I'll eventually get a light wind board, but I want to start off with
>> the smaller one since I enjoy that more and already have most the
>> gear.

>That's a volume range where you probabely should try out, if it's enough
>for you. I'm around 62 kg and for me, 90 liters (in a 260/60 wide
>freestyler, not unsimilar to the AHD Maxxes in shape) is enough but that
>may depend on experience and preference. I'd think that for a "small"
>board, with something bigger in reserve and really 15 knots of wind (not
>just gusts to 15) you're OK with 99l. If it's meant to be your "big"
>board and frequently must be slogged around, then it may be too small.
>Probabely hard to tell for anyone, especially since you just began
>sailing but progressed rapidely, if i remember correctly.

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Tom - Chicag » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Endo:

I was looking for the same *type* of board earlier this season.  My
conclusion was that the Carve 99 was too small for 7.0 M sails.  I wanted
a 100L board which would easily carry a 7.5 M sail.

Boy did I find it.  The Pro Tech ATC 270 is a 103L (pretty wide) board
with the Parton CAT tail.  This board was exactly what I was looking
for.  Wide enough to plane early and carry the 7.5, extremely comfortable
in the severe chop/wave conditions we get here on Lake Michigan.  Fast,
turny, and rips thru the chop.  BTW, the volume is so well distributed
that I can uphaul my 7.5 on this board.

I weigh 175 lb and use this board for 7.5, 6.0 and 5.0.  If I were
willing to cart around a 3 board quiver, I would also get the Pro Tech
ATC 260 which is the next size down.

Quote:

> I'm looking for a 60cm wide board for bump and jump and general all
> round use.

> I got sails from 5.0 to 7.0 and thought the Carve 99 would be good.
> I'm also looking at the AHD Free Diamond 60.

> I'm a bit worried about the 99L size being too small for me. I'm 70kg
> (about 150 lbs) and sail in winds ranging from 15kts to 30kts.....in
> the Montreal area.

> Would I get much use out of this board in this environment and
> considering my weight?

> I'll eventually get a light wind board, but I want to start off with
> the smaller one since I enjoy that more and already have most the
> gear.

> Should I go for a 110L size instead like the AHD FD65 or does the
> freestyle aspect suffer too much?

> Has anyone tried both these boards?

> Endo

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Roger Jacks » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Hi Endo,
As I recall, you are not a heavyweight, right?
Maybe 150 lbs.?
So what makes you think you need a bigger board than the Carve 99 in
order to uphaul.
I'm about 160 lbs. and can uphaul on the Carve 99 all day long.
Remember, boards like the Carve are wider and have much of their
volume right around the middle of the board, making uphauling,
tacking and other middle of the board maneuvers real easy and
stable.
But if you want the extra liters, look at the Carve 111 or the
F2 Air 265 (115 liters) if you are serious about a freestyle
board.

P.S. I sailed the Carve 99 all day last Sunday in 12-16 knots on a
7.0 Retro at the Canadian Hole. Didn't see one single board go by me,
and I was looking. Wow, that little board sure jibes nice, and it's
sooo easy to chop hop, even in very flat water like the CH on a NNE.
If you get down to Hatteras this fall, come by and try them out.

Quote:
> Yeah....I think a 105L to 110L board would be better for me. That way
> I can still uphaul if I need to. Maybe a Mistral Score 111, AHD FD

65, HiFly 272 or Skate 266 would be better.
Quote:

> I read a review today of the Carve 99 and the reviewer said it felt
> kinda dead for some reason.

Hmmmm.... I wonder if it was the board that seemed dead, or the
rig, or maybe the reviewer. The Carve 99 is a very lively little
board when you set it up properly for the type of sailing you are
doing.

Quote:
> I read another review that said it slogged as well.
>Something to do with the rocker I guess.

The Carve 99 slogged???? Every board slogs, when it's underpowered,
or has too big a sailor on board for the available windspeed.
My definition of "slog" is you can't quite get on a plane, so you
sail around in displacement mode, riding the upwind rail to get
upwind, but not getting anywhere real fast as you either don't
have enough sail, or there's not enough wind.
Yep, every board that was ever built will slog if you take it out in
not enough wind.
Where the heck are you finding these reviews?
Regards, Roger

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Carve 99 question

Post by Roger Jacks » Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Hi Terry,

Quote:
> I have been sailing on warious yachts for 45 years and have always
> understood that a "slog" means sailing to windward; it has nothing to
> do with the abilty to plan.

Hmmmmm.... never heard it stated that way before. Here in the states,
and on this forum, slogging (or schlogging) usually means sailing a
shortboard around in the displacement (sub planing) mode.
Guess we will have to wait for Endo to indentify where he saw the
review and then determine which interpretation of "slog" to apply.
Quote:

> If the review states that "it slogs" it means that it can be sailed
> to windward.

In the context of Endo's post, and since it's a small 99 liter hull
designed fairly specifically for planing freestyle moves, I expect
the common windsurfing interpretation will apply.
But you are correct, the Carve 99 goes to weather very nicely with
the stock fin and a 5.0-6.5 rig.
later, Roger
--
sailquik US 7011
Sailworks/Starboard/F2/MPB/System B/True
Ames/Chinook/Kokatat/Da Kine

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Carve 99 question

Post by Terry Holli » Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:32:23

Hi Sailquik

I have been sailing on warious yachts for 45 years and have always
understood that a "slog" means sailing to windward; it has nothing to do
with the abilty to plan.

If the review states that "it slogs" it means that it can be sailed to
windward.

Regards - Terry Hollis

Quote:

> > I read another review that said it slogged as well.
> >Something to do with the rocker I guess.
> The Carve 99 slogged???? Every board slogs, when it's underpowered,
> or has too big a sailor on board for the available windspeed.
> My definition of "slog" is you can't quite get on a plane, so you
> sail around in displacement mode, riding the upwind rail to get
> upwind, but not getting anywhere real fast as you either don't
> have enough sail, or there's not enough wind.
> Yep, every board that was ever built will slog if you take it out in
> not enough wind.

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Endo » Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:00:00

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:14:06 GMT, sailquik(Roger Jackson)

Quote:

>Yep, every board that was ever built will slog if you take it out in
>not enough wind.
>Where the heck are you finding these reviews?
>Regards, Roger

I think I read it on a site for another board company........makes
sense they would slam the competition.

I was out sailing tonight on my 10+ year old 290 board and I was
dialed in pretty well. Kinda makes me wonder if I really need a new
board. But still, I'd like to get something a bit more modern since my
tail is really narrow, thin and sinks a lot. Also, I'd like something
light to jump and try tricks on.

The guy at the shop said the same thing as you, " a 100L would be fine
for your 150 to 155lbs. The boards these days are wider so the volume
of a 100L feels like a 110L."

There are no great deals on Carve99's around here. Also, I like the
look of the wood over the d-ram and nobody has the wood.

I'm also looking at the:

Fanatic Skate 262
AHD Free Diamond 60
JP Freestyle 262

There was a decent deal on a AHD Maxxride 62. This board seems like
pure freestyle with its 250cm length and I'm worried it wouldn't sail
well in higher winds (25knots) and might have trouble pointing. Still,
the volume is 104L and the width is a large 62 cm. Is this too radical
a board for me for my first year or will I grow into it?

The damn board shops aroung Montreal don't demo boards so I'm kinda
screwed. I don't want to lay down $1800 CDN and find the board sucks.
Any ideas how I can convince the guy to let me demo it first?

Endo

Quote:

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>Before you buy.

 
 
 

Carve 99 question

Post by Endo » Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Tom,

The Pro-tech site has no specs on this board expcept to say it is
102L. How wide is it? Where is Pro-tech located, they seem to only
sell direct.

I do like their 100% guarnatee or money refunded. That way I can try
it out first. Do you like the quality of construction?

Endo

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:35:15 GMT, Tom - Chicago

Quote:

>Endo:

>I was looking for the same *type* of board earlier this season.  My
>conclusion was that the Carve 99 was too small for 7.0 M sails.  I wanted
>a 100L board which would easily carry a 7.5 M sail.

>Boy did I find it.  The Pro Tech ATC 270 is a 103L (pretty wide) board
>with the Parton CAT tail.  This board was exactly what I was looking
>for.  Wide enough to plane early and carry the 7.5, extremely comfortable
>in the severe chop/wave conditions we get here on Lake Michigan.  Fast,
>turny, and rips thru the chop.  BTW, the volume is so well distributed
>that I can uphaul my 7.5 on this board.

>I weigh 175 lb and use this board for 7.5, 6.0 and 5.0.  If I were
>willing to cart around a 3 board quiver, I would also get the Pro Tech
>ATC 260 which is the next size down.


>> I'm looking for a 60cm wide board for bump and jump and general all
>> round use.

>> I got sails from 5.0 to 7.0 and thought the Carve 99 would be good.
>> I'm also looking at the AHD Free Diamond 60.

>> I'm a bit worried about the 99L size being too small for me. I'm 70kg
>> (about 150 lbs) and sail in winds ranging from 15kts to 30kts.....in
>> the Montreal area.

>> Would I get much use out of this board in this environment and
>> considering my weight?

>> I'll eventually get a light wind board, but I want to start off with
>> the smaller one since I enjoy that more and already have most the
>> gear.

>> Should I go for a 110L size instead like the AHD FD65 or does the
>> freestyle aspect suffer too much?

>> Has anyone tried both these boards?

>> Endo