> > Get a long bed truck. Short bed truck
> >is gonna leave a lot of stuff*** about 3-4 feet out the back of
> >the truck. Unless of course you put it way up high and hang it over
> >the cab.
> Family considerations mandate the four-passenger cab. With a long bed, the
> vehicle LOA becomes too much for me...even with the short bed, the thing is
> eight inches longer than my 'burb.
And what exactly is wrong with a big truck (he says polishing the
chrome on the behemoth in the driveway)? ;-)
So you're looking at one of the 1/2 or 3/4 ton crew cab, short beds.
> Yes, putting it up high was the idea. The surf ski is 19' long, so it *has* to
> go up high....
Wow! Hmmmmm.... This is getting serious. And you're gonna put your
boards up there too? How many boards?
> OTOH a guy where I sail just dumps his boards in his short bed, nose forward,
> skeg down and throws the sails & masts in likewise....stuff hangs over, but not
> far enough to require a flag... and besides, it's easier to grab that way...-)
I did that too for a long time.
> This guy is local and I doubt that his way would work at 70 mph... but maybe
> with a couple of tiedowns....
> Since there has to be some rack space above for the surf ski, even if I did
> wind up finding a way to be comfortable with the boards/sails sitting in the
> bed, I'd also have an alternative for when we go on vacation....windsurfing
> stuff secured on the racks, luggage in the bed...
> As far as sliding in and out goes, I was thinking about putting rails about 4
> inches high on the sides of the bed. Seen it on a few trucks
> already...anchored into the stake side holes.
Stake holes will not support those kinds of stresses long term.
Trust me on this one. I've seen the stuff spread all along the
> The framework could rest on the rails and be locked into place with four
> cam-action turnbuckles: one in each corner of the bed where the cargo rings are.
Could work. But you'd probably want to have a U-channel on the bed rail
that the lower fore/aft rail of your rack would drop into. That way,
latching mechanism only has to hold the rack down. Understand?
> I'm guessing the framework I have in mind wouldn't weigh over fifty pounds: a
> couple of concave skids to ride on the bed rails, an upright in each corner,
> maybe a few x-braces, a tube running fore-and-aft on each side of the top, a
> tube running across on each end at the bottom, and a tub running across at each
> end on top - overhanging and doubling as a roof rack bar equivalent.
Hmmmm... Gimme a second with the math... That looks like about...
Well, at least a bare minimum 60 feet. That does not include U-channel
for the truck rails. Soft steel, 1" sq tubing, 14 awg is about 1 lb
a linear foot. Stainless is slightly high. So you're close on the
But I don't think the engineering is heavy enough to support a surf ski
and boards. But then I may not have the same mental picture.
> The hardest part would seem to be crafting a dolly that takes it off and on and
> lowers it about three feet for garage storage. I can think of a few of ways
> to approach that, but haven't actually done any of them...so it would probably
> be a good time killer during the winter months...if I had time to kill, that
It can be done, I just can't picture it at the moment. And the dolly
would probably cost more than the rack.
Seems that the easiest thing to do is unload the rack, then just lift
it off by hand. Trying to store all your gear on it *AND* be able
to lift it on/off the truck.... I think that's a whole lot more
difficult than is worth doing.
What about just buying a factory ladder rack? Or is that too
ugly for the wife?
> And then.....maybe I need a trailer......-))
Now you're talking!!! But don't make Mike \m/ angry. ;-)
Brian "The Dog" Cunningham
Some days you're the dog,
and some days you're the hydrant.