Push Loop v Back Loop

Push Loop v Back Loop

Post by gmru » Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:00:00


Can somebody please explain the difference to me?
Just been re-watching the Irish Grand Prix (great programme) and no matter
how many times I replay it, I just can't see the difference!
Thanks,
Gavin
 
 
 

Push Loop v Back Loop

Post by phil » Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:00:00

I always thought a push loop was a front loop where you push the clew into
the wind, like a hoss tack,looping upwind instead of downwind. It looks a
lot different than a back loop though so maybe I`m off.

 
 
 

Push Loop v Back Loop

Post by Wolfgang Soerge » Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:00:00

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> Can somebody please explain the difference to me?
> Just been re-watching the Irish Grand Prix (great programme) and no matter
> how many times I replay it, I just can't see the difference!

A pushloop basically is a more radical version of the backloop which
ussually is landed tail first and can be planned through.
In a normal backloop the sailor more or less hangs under the sail all
the time, it's more like an aerial-360 into the wind. You typically
don't need much speed but a steep ramp, jump into the wind. It's also a
rather slow jump. Landing of the backloop is typically off the wind,
nose first but i've seen sailors turn all the way to a reach and land
tail first in really high ones.
The push loop otoh. is a pretty fast move, you need more speed and don't
jump upwards that much. At the apex of the jump, one sheets way out and
thus pushes the clew of the sail through the wind. This initiates a
rather quick rotation and the sailor is now ABOVE the more or less
horizontal rig, a position you never reach in a back loop. The trick is
now to continue the rotation and get the sail upwright again, otherwise
the knees are going to thest the stability of the sail. How much to
sheet out seems to be one o the iner points in technique, i've seen many
variations from extreme, goiter-like (a goiter basically is a push loop
initiated by an aerial off the lip while riding a wave) sheeting to
nearly no visible sheeting but rather a rotation of body, rig and board.

Disclaimer: I'm not great at backloops and never dared to try a pushloop
yet myself.
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Wolfgang

 
 
 

Push Loop v Back Loop

Post by RadE » Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Where did you find the Irish GP to watch ??????

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Push Loop v Back Loop

Post by Ken McCullag » Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:20:51

It was on Channel4 on Saturday. It's also supposed to be in the PWA series
whenever that is - someone mentioned December or January or something. If

great to be there!!!!!!

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>Where did you find the Irish GP to watch ??????

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Push Loop v Back Loop

Post by WARDO » Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:50:12

Here is a link to some video I shot and edited at the 2000 Jalama
Wavesailing Event here in Central Cali, of Nat Gill (one of the new
school young guns) sticking several push loops.

(caution: music contains *** language)
http://SportToday.org/

Back loops are basically stalled at the apex and are landed off the
wind, with push loops you push through the eye of the wind near the apex
rather quickly. I am finally landing back loops occasionally...learned
to slow the rotation down and sight the landing off the wind, I was
over-rotating.....ouch!
There is a bunch more contest footage of extreme manuevers to check out
of Jason Prior, Sean Aiken, Francisco Goya, Fabrice Beaux,
Jesse Browmn, et. al. ....many back and push loops to compare.....
http://SportToday.org/
L(???)King  forward to seeing some of the action from Ireland....soon?

WARDOG
http://SportToday.org/

Quote:

> Can somebody please explain the difference to me?
> Just been re-watching the Irish Grand Prix (great programme) and no matter
> how many times I replay it, I just can't see the difference!
> Thanks,
> Gavin