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I'm getting a little fed up with the word EARLY PLANNING being placed in
every post to describe a board.   It will always come up in the
conversation when you try to sell a board and we are all guilty of it.
"What's it like to plane mate ?"  "As early as the sun rises guv !", "In
that case I'll give the asking price".

As all boards today slot in a specific slot regarding its use, this will
dictate its performance.   Short fat hairy always first to plane in
light wind, narrow twig's / sinkers last.
Its also not just the board.  If you have the max sail size for the
board and the conditions (yes that once a year when you've judged every
factor to a t) then it should be on the plane before you've had chance
to put your back foot in the strap.    This is true with any board.  I'm
not going into any fin detail or sailor weight as that's another two
factors.

Try going head to head with another board.   Unless the wind is full on
with no holes its impossible to compare boards to see who's on the plane
first. A more descriptive word would be sustainable plane ( how the
board performs when its on the plane).

Lets ban this phrase and put it in nineties  box where it belongs along
with all the ***equipment of the eighties (or sell it to those 2/3*
hotels in Africa and India that always have equipment from this era )
--
William Oscroft

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com/

Sorry William...  We're just having a bit of fun.

Dog

    Some days you're the dog,
and some days you're the hydrant.

I'm with you - and while we're at it, lets ban the words "fun", "crankin",
"stoked", "rippin", and all other descriptions of what we feel like when
sailing.

Tom - Pissed in Chicago

As far as the emotional descriptors and exclamations, I can live with those.

"Glenn Woodell" wrote >I don't like the manufacturers claims that cannot

Uh ... 8<)

Besides, I KNOW beyond a doubt that my Y2K sails are better than my '96's. I
can't quite say how or why, but they MUST be, 'cause they're worth more
money.

Mike \m/

Now Mike, that's exactly the kind of inflated blather than everyone's
complaining about!   Glenn (who may be suffering from wind deprivation) I
believe was calling for manufacturers to not make claims of significant
improvements in their equipment.  I'm imagining solemn monasteries, where monks
humbly offer up 8'6" boards, asking forgiveness from the purchasers for the
lack of perfection in the plank.  A lot of bowed heads, too.  This would be
great (kinda like Fox Watersports in Hatteras...I've never seen Ted James
smile, though I believe every word he says).

Meanwhile, there are a lot more boards available this year that plane in 12
knots, in 10 knots, and 8 knots than last year...a simple and demonstrable
fact.  Perhaps in bump and jump land there haven't been big strides forward,
but for those of us who are looking to plane in conditions that we used to not
be able to, there's lots of new gear that does the trick.
Michael
US5613

...Regarding the marketing hype that goes on every year when the new boards
and sails are released...

 Most years, as far as I can tell, the improvements are'nt that great, just
usually a tweaking of last year's designs.

However, this is a good thing imho, as we don't tend to get carried away by
some outlandish ideas caused by an over-active imaginative marketing
manager.

I am able to tell/feel the difference some years, and it is mostly good, but
there have been some big blunders, too.  Mostly though, we go forward.

For instance, this seasons crop of Sailworks sails. As soon as I sailed the
2000 models, I could feel a distinct difference from the 99 designs.

A step forward?  Most certainly.  Same with the Ezzy sails, definitely
better this year.

Boardwise? Well, things are getting wider, and shorter. But if you live in a
fairly windy location, this new direction in board design will hardly affect
you at all.

Personally, I tend to stay with a particular good design of board a lot
longer, and just change sails every year.

R.

Website: www.botanybay.cjb.net

:
: "Glenn Woodell" wrote >I don't like the manufacturers claims that cannot
: > really be proven. If gear is as really that much better each and every
: year
: > then why are we not planing in 2 knots, with 4.0 meter sails, on 5 pound
: > boards? To me, microscopic advances in gear do not deserve the
: glorification
: > they have been given in recent years.
:
: OHMIGAWD ... you mean you don't buy WSmag's editorial each spring that sez
: this year's crop of gear is SO improved that we should all just throw last
: year's ***in a dumpster to be sure no one is forced to use inadequate
: gear? What kind of radical heretic ARE you, Glenn?
:
: Uh ... 8<)
:
: Besides, I KNOW beyond a doubt that my Y2K sails are better than my '96's.
I
: can't quite say how or why, but they MUST be, 'cause they're worth more
: money.
:
: Mike \m/
:
:

"MTVNewsGuy" wrote > Now Mike, that's exactly the kind of inflated blather
than everyone's

Mike \m/

"Ya fat bastud, yull nevah get glidin' with that little 6 meter!"

Works for me. "Planing" sounds too much like a powerboat term. Gliding
sounds better, like hang gliding or sail-planing. Oops there it is
again!

How about a new "FREE GLIDING" 2-fin wide tail beast
with a rigid composite Foil?

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But, I do agree that there are too many claims about gear that does this
or that, but no one ever seems to be able to duplicate the results
themselves.
I can back up my "marginal planing" claims and I urge those of you who
are disbelievers to come out and see what you can do on the same gear.
later Roger

Where in Windsurfing Magazine do they say that the Where is anything said that
remotely resembles "this year's crop of gear is SO improved that we should all
just throw last
year's ***in a dumpster to be sure no one is forced to use inadequate
gear?"

Michael
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