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by **Alan** » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:05:36

"...Sailing north of Point Conception toward Monterey and beyond, Cabrillo
encountered a rugged, stormy coastline whose mountains were covered with
snow and ice. Strong winds and high surf and lack of places to anchor often
kept the sailors from going ashore to explore. During one storm near Cape
San Martin, the deck cargo from Victoria was lost overboard. After about a
month, the fleet turned south to spend the winter in the sheltered
anchorages in the Channel Islands..."

Wow, you guys still get all that snow, or have those days ended?

Alan

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Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org

Quote:

> Hi Alan,
> Boaters go down all of the time in the Santa Barbara Channel...
> Pays to have a good chart and GPS with depth finder...
> http://www.waterproofcharts.com/82a.htm
> http://www.frankosmaps.com/grafixbin/products/Channel_Islands_side1.jpg
> http://www.frankosmaps.com/grafixbin/products/Channel_Islands_side2.jpg

> Ready to rig up?...;-)
> Just imagine what it's like on the beeeeeg days at the J...
> http://www.towsurfingadventures.com/psychos.php
> http://www.frankosmaps.com/grafixbin/products/Channel_San_Miguel.jpg

> When Greg calls, you always think twice before picking up...;-)

> http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/ci_ceqa/index.html
> http://www.cinms.nos.noaa.gov/marineres/main.html

> You don't have to go very far offshore to find danger while boating...
> http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/ev-1920s/ev-1923/honda-2.htm
> http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/kids/Cabrillo.htm

> WARDOG
> http://surfingsports.com

> > I wonder how many innocent small craft boaters have plied into that
break,
> > not realizing what was coming up. Of course, any sailor with one eye and
> > half a brain would see the shallows on a chart I suppose, but, how would
you
> > like to happen on such a site in your small boat by accident...

> > While working offshore, did you ever see such breaks?

> > Alan

> > --
> > Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org

> >>Park...the newest Santa Barbara tow in spot...

http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=LOCAL&ID=564...

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> > 63353302

> >>WARDOG
> >>http://surfingsports.com

by **WARDO** » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 05:09:44

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>> Wow, you guys still get all that snow, or have those days ended?

http://www.surfingsports.com/images/jalama_country4.jpg

Well, it had been in the 80's for several weeks...then a cold front came
through over the weekend and we saw a dusting in the local mountains...
it's rare...but, it happens from time to time...usually good wavesailing
along with it...

http://www.ksby.com/weather/headlines/2341676.html

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com

Quote:

> "...Sailing north of Point Conception toward Monterey and beyond, Cabrillo
> encountered a rugged, stormy coastline whose mountains were covered with
> snow and ice. Strong winds and high surf and lack of places to anchor often
> kept the sailors from going ashore to explore. During one storm near Cape
> San Martin, the deck cargo from Victoria was lost overboard. After about a
> month, the fleet turned south to spend the winter in the sheltered
> anchorages in the Channel Islands..."

> Wow, you guys still get all that snow, or have those days ended?

> Alan

> --
> Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org

>>Hi Alan,
>>Boaters go down all of the time in the Santa Barbara Channel...
>>Pays to have a good chart and GPS with depth finder...
>>http://www.waterproofcharts.com/82a.htm
>>http://www.frankosmaps.com/grafixbin/products/Channel_Islands_side1.jpg
>>http://www.frankosmaps.com/grafixbin/products/Channel_Islands_side2.jpg

>>Ready to rig up?...;-)
>>Just imagine what it's like on the beeeeeg days at the J...
>>http://www.towsurfingadventures.com/psychos.php
>>http://www.frankosmaps.com/grafixbin/products/Channel_San_Miguel.jpg

>>When Greg calls, you always think twice before picking up...;-)

>>http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/ci_ceqa/index.html
>>http://www.cinms.nos.noaa.gov/marineres/main.html

>>You don't have to go very far offshore to find danger while boating...
>>http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/ev-1920s/ev-1923/honda-2.htm
>>http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/kids/Cabrillo.htm

>>WARDOG
>>http://surfingsports.com

>>> I wonder how many innocent small craft boaters have plied into that

> break,

>>>not realizing what was coming up. Of course, any sailor with one eye and
>>>half a brain would see the shallows on a chart I suppose, but, how would

> you

>>>like to happen on such a site in your small boat by accident...

>>>While working offshore, did you ever see such breaks?

>>>Alan

>>>--
>>>Windsurfing Club: http://www.ibscc.org

>>>>Park...the newest Santa Barbara tow in spot...

> http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=LOCAL&ID=564...

>>>63353302

>>>>WARDOG
>>>>http://surfingsports.com

by **weed..** » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 06:22:09

Shark
Park...the newest Santa Barbara tow in spot...

http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=LOCAL&ID=564...

Dood, I'll do the driving. Seems like two or three new spots are being
discovered yearly. Someone is going to show me a spot a mile or so off
Cape Cod in May. I doubt my shoulder will be healed by then, but I want
to take the ski out there for a look see. He swears the waves get to
20' to 40' when a storm passes by, I personally tkink he is BSing me,
but we'll see.

by **Dan Weis** » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:02:10

Weedy: Doubt this is where you are headed, but there is a spot just
off Martha's Vineyard that I've seen throw top to bottom at at least 25
feet by my estimation. It requires a real ground swell to happen,
something on the order of an offshore hurricane or a true nor' easter
coming out of the LI Sound. south. I've sailed at the spot on a
"normal" big day, say 5-7 feet swell and not much gets picked up, but
you can tell that something is lurking below the surface when a few
large sets come through. I've not sailed there when it really pumps,
but have seen pictures of a sailor bottom turning mast to mast and 1/2.
Big, thick and October ugly. He was out with a rescue boat just in
case.

-Dan

by **weed..** » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:33:47

<< Weedy: Doubt this is where you are headed, but there is a spot just

off Martha's Vineyard that I've seen throw top to bottom at at least 25

feet by my estimation. It requires a real ground swell to happen,
something on the order of an offshore hurricane or a true nor' easter
coming out of the LI Sound. south. I've sailed at the spot on a
"normal" big day, say 5-7 feet swell and not much gets picked up, but
you can tell that something is lurking below the surface when a few
large sets come through. I've not sailed there when it really pumps,
but have seen pictures of a sailor bottom turning mast to mast and 1/2.

Big, thick and October ugly. He was out with a rescue boat just in
case. >>

Dan this place is a mile or so off Westport, MA. near Horseneck beach.
Actually he said there are three spots, one, the point a mile or so out
off Gooseberry Island, to far out for paddle surfers were he said the
wave is horse-shoe shaped. I'm starting to wonder if this is actually
Elbow Ledge in R.I.. The other spots are between Cherry and Webb beach
and off Horseneck beach.

I'm not familiar with this part of Buzzard's Bay, I guess it's
Buzzard's Bay. I have heard stories about the place off Horseneck
Beach, although I don't want to interfere with paddle surfers. I still
think this person is exaggerating a bit, although, I won't know until I
go out there. I have also heard rumors about a spot off Block Island.

What I really want to find is a spot in Nantucket Sound. My buddy flys
daily out of Hyannis to Nantucket for work, he's keeping his eyes
peeled for wave action. I got people looking up in the Chatham arera,
although skies are not allowed in the state park area so it would have
to be far out in Whiteyville.

There's always towing behind the ferry's coming back from Nantucket,
sometimes the wakes depending on the tide can get up to 8 feet. I'm not
even sure I'll be able to tow with my upcoming shoulder surgery.

by **Dan Weis** » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:09:20

Maybe, don't know the spot from sailing experience. I am a bit
skeptical about anything huge happening within a mile of shore in
Buzzards Bay.

I was wrong before, once. Could be wrong again. :o)

Back when the ferrys made steep wakes (like the Island Queen and old
Nashaun) we used to sail out to meet them in the Sound and get really
great jumps and wave riding on their wakes. The Nantucket doesn't come
into VH all that much, at least not when I am around, but I've seen the
wake she makes running at full speed off shore -especially, as you
point out, in adverse current. Fun stuff.

Quote:

> << Weedy: Doubt this is where you are headed, but there is a spot just

> off Martha's Vineyard that I've seen throw top to bottom at at least 25

> feet by my estimation. It requires a real ground swell to happen,
> something on the order of an offshore hurricane or a true nor' easter
> coming out of the LI Sound. south. I've sailed at the spot on a
> "normal" big day, say 5-7 feet swell and not much gets picked up, but
> you can tell that something is lurking below the surface when a few
> large sets come through. I've not sailed there when it really pumps,
> but have seen pictures of a sailor bottom turning mast to mast and 1/2.

> Big, thick and October ugly. He was out with a rescue boat just in
> case. >>

> Dan this place is a mile or so off Westport, MA. near Horseneck beach.
> Actually he said there are three spots, one, the point a mile or so out
> off Gooseberry Island, to far out for paddle surfers were he said the
> wave is horse-shoe shaped. I'm starting to wonder if this is actually
> Elbow Ledge in R.I.. The other spots are between Cherry and Webb beach
> and off Horseneck beach.

> I'm not familiar with this part of Buzzard's Bay, I guess it's
> Buzzard's Bay. I have heard stories about the place off Horseneck
> Beach, although I don't want to interfere with paddle surfers. I still
> think this person is exaggerating a bit, although, I won't know until I
> go out there. I have also heard rumors about a spot off Block Island.

> What I really want to find is a spot in Nantucket Sound. My buddy flys
> daily out of Hyannis to Nantucket for work, he's keeping his eyes
> peeled for wave action. I got people looking up in the Chatham arera,
> although skies are not allowed in the state park area so it would have
> to be far out in Whiteyville.

> There's always towing behind the ferry's coming back from Nantucket,
> sometimes the wakes depending on the tide can get up to 8 feet. I'm not
> even sure I'll be able to tow with my upcoming shoulder surgery.

by **WARDO** » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:49:17

Quote:

> He swears the waves get to
>> 20' to 40' when a storm passes by, I personally tkink he is BSing me,
>> but we'll see.

These pinche olas?...;-)
http://www.nesbittphoto.com/frame.htm
http://www.surfline.com/surfline/hurricane/name/imgs/chang_mreese1.jpg
http://www.boston.com/sports/outdoors/articles/2005/09/20/high_water_...

WARDOG
http://surfingsports.com

Quote:

> Shark
> Park...the newest Santa Barbara tow in spot...

> http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=LOCAL&ID=564...

> Dood, I'll do the driving. Seems like two or three new spots are being
> discovered yearly. Someone is going to show me a spot a mile or so off
> Cape Cod in May. I doubt my shoulder will be healed by then, but I want
> to take the ski out there for a look see. He swears the waves get to
> 20' to 40' when a storm passes by, I personally tkink he is BSing me,
> but we'll see.

by **weed..** » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:19:25

Wardog posts:

<< These pinche olas?...;-)
http://www.nesbittphoto.com/frame.htm
http://www.surfline.com/surfline/hurricane/name/imgs/chang_mreese1.jpg
http://www.boston.com/sports/outdoors/articles/2005/09/20/high_water_...
>>

I read that article back in September, Elbow Ledge should be easy to
get to since it's on the charts.

LOL... you and Will V should get together and tow Will on the Expcet
Kona. :-)

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