Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Mike Hollada » Thu, 23 May 2002 06:32:52


Hey All...

Looking to climb Rainier for the first time this September.  This will also
be my first high altitude adventure.  Just got my backpack itself this
afternoon and am looking for extra packing suggestions (other than what my
fitter told me).  I got a Dana Design "Glacier" pack.  We loaded it with
about 45 lbs. while fitting and I was quite surprised at how good it felt.
My question is basically...What are different setups or packing tips anyone
has for a short 2 day trip like I am doing?

I would prefer a mail response, however posting is ok.

Thanks in advance...

Mike Holladay
Norman, OK

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Andy Gal » Thu, 23 May 2002 07:07:16

Quote:

> I would prefer a mail response, however posting is ok.

Whew, what a relief.  We wouldn't want to inconvenience you.  We're only
here to serve your needs.

Quote:

> Thanks in advance...

You're welcome.

Andy

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Rob Willia » Fri, 24 May 2002 00:35:48

Quote:

> Hey All...

> Looking to climb Rainier for the first time this September.  This will also
> be my first high altitude adventure.  

High Altitude????

Quote:
>Just got my backpack itself this
> afternoon and am looking for extra packing suggestions (other than what my
> fitter told me).  I got a Dana Design "Glacier" pack.  We loaded it with
> about 45 lbs. while fitting and I was quite surprised at how good it felt.

Lets see how good it feels when you hit the Muir hut.

Quote:
> My question is basically...What are different setups or packing tips anyone
> has for a short 2 day trip like I am doing?

Let me get this straight: you're climbing Rainier but don't know how
to pack a pack?  I hope you are using a guide service.

Pack the heavy stuff high and close to your back.  Don't lash stuff
all over the outside a la Grapes of Wrath.  Tighten the compression
straps.  Make your buddy carry the beer.

Quote:
> I would prefer a mail response, however posting is ok.

Whew, I'm glad posting is ok since I haven't had anyone show me how to
use email yet.
Quote:
> Thanks in advance...

> Mike Holladay
> Norman, OK


 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Dawn Alguar » Fri, 24 May 2002 23:40:41

Quote:

> Pack the heavy stuff high

Is that part true or are you teasing him, like cat urine?

Really.  I always thought the heavy stuff was supposed to go on
the bottom.

Dawn

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Ken.Cl.. » Fri, 24 May 2002 23:41:18

Quote:

> > Looking to climb Rainier for the first time this September.  This will also
> > be my first high altitude adventure.  

> High Altitude????

Technically, that would be "Very High Altitude".  Plain old "High
Altitude" ends at 11,500 ft (3500m).

See the High Altitude Medicine Guide for more information:

    http://www.high-altitude-medicine.com/AMS.html

Ken

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Lynn » Sat, 25 May 2002 00:18:54


Quote:

> > Pack the heavy stuff high

> Is that part true or are you teasing him, like cat urine?

> Really.  I always thought the heavy stuff was supposed to go on
> the bottom.

> Dawn

It depends.  In general, the heavy stuff should go against your back, with
the lighter stuff toward the outside of the pack - so it's not a top/bottom
issue, but a center of gravity issue as well as a "what do you need to get
out first" issue.
 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by BKR » Sat, 25 May 2002 03:21:43

Quote:


>>Pack the heavy stuff high

> Is that part true or are you teasing him, like cat urine?

> Really.  I always thought the heavy stuff was supposed to go on
> the bottom.

> Dawn

Yes generally it is a good rule of thumb.  It helps distribute the
weight more appropriately throughout your back as opposed to on your
hips.  Lynne's suggestion of heavy against your back is also a pretty
good rule to follow, especially if you can get away with close to your
back and higher up.

bkr

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Jason Liebgot » Sat, 25 May 2002 04:22:43

Quote:


> >>Pack the heavy stuff high

> > Is that part true or are you teasing him, like cat urine?

> > Really.  I always thought the heavy stuff was supposed to go on
> > the bottom.

> > Dawn

Check out FOTH... it's got good stuff about this. The real issue is what
you're going to be doing. If it's a long hike in, heavy on top. It it's
talus hiking, scrambling, lower is better for balance... etc.

j.

 
 
 

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Post by Rob Willia » Sat, 25 May 2002 07:04:01

Quote:


> > Pack the heavy stuff high

> Is that part true or are you teasing him, like cat urine?

> Really.  I always thought the heavy stuff was supposed to go on
> the bottom.

> Dawn

If the heavy stuff is supposed to go on the bottom why would they put
the sleeping bag compartment down there?

I've found through trial and error that keeping it high (around
shoulder blade level) and close to my back is more comfortable.  It
keeps it from swinging around as I move my body and helps me maintain
a better posture.

Of course, as always IT DEPENDS and YMMV.

Rob

p.s. I don't tease about cat urine.

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Major Wo » Sat, 25 May 2002 08:04:14

When possible, up high and over your hips for flat trails.  For
climbing it would be best to pack heavy in the middle and close to
your back.  For training, put in your sleeping bag or a pillow, tent
and or a pillow, and then 2-3 gallon milk containers with water.
Empty the water before descending to save your knees.



Quote:

>> Pack the heavy stuff high

>Is that part true or are you teasing him, like cat urine?

>Really.  I always thought the heavy stuff was supposed to go on
>the bottom.

>Dawn

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Dawn Alguar » Sat, 25 May 2002 22:56:46

Quote:

> If the heavy stuff is supposed to go on the bottom why would they put
> the sleeping bag compartment down there?

I've always wondered.  Somehow common sense has always told me to
put the heavy stuff on the bottom, I guess to keep the weight
from shifting around as I move.  I'll try heavy on top and see if
it feels any more comfortable.

Dawn

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by loosabo » Sun, 26 May 2002 00:38:41

Not sure if it has been posted but,

http://www.gregorypacks.com/information/howtopack.htm

good link showing how to pack a pack.

PIECE

Quote:


>> If the heavy stuff is supposed to go on the bottom why would they
>put
>> the sleeping bag compartment down there?

>I've always wondered.  Somehow common sense has always told me to
>put the heavy stuff on the bottom, I guess to keep the weight
>from shifting around as I move.  I'll try heavy on top and see if
>it feels any more comfortable.

>Dawn

loosaboy
 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by kreighto » Sun, 26 May 2002 02:53:55

Quote:
> "Dawn Alguard"  wrote

> > If the heavy stuff is supposed to go on the bottom why would they put
> > the sleeping bag compartment down there?

> I've always wondered.  Somehow common sense has always told me to
> put the heavy stuff on the bottom, I guess to keep the weight
> from shifting around as I move.  I'll try heavy on top and see if
> it feels any more comfortable.

I always did that, too, but lately I've been experimenting with my cragging
pack, and I've been surprised how nice it feels to have the 'weight' (i.e.
rack/draws) in the middle, as opposed to the bottom or top. Putting the rope
in the lid seems to throw the whole thing off, though, and I've yet to
figure out how to pack it there and not mess up the distribution completely.

re: big packs (to stay on topic) Generally, I find that if it won't fit in a
mid-size pack, I'm bringing a suitcase.

kreighton

 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by Chris Ja » Sun, 26 May 2002 06:25:53

Quote:


> > If the heavy stuff is supposed to go on the bottom why would they put
> > the sleeping bag compartment down there?

> I've always wondered.  Somehow common sense has always told me to
> put the heavy stuff on the bottom, I guess to keep the weight
> from shifting around as I move.  I'll try heavy on top and see if
> it feels any more comfortable.

> Dawn

The way I learned it the rule of thumb is: For trail hiking put the
heavy stuff on top, for scrambling/climbing put it near the bottom,
and for off-trail hiking, somewhere in the middle. The theory is that
weight up near the top is best for trail hiking but as you engage in
activities that make you less stable the less desirable it is for your
pack to be top-heavy.  Generally seems to work well for me. But
remember the "right way" is the way that works for you.
 
 
 

Mt. Rainier - Packing Your Pack

Post by S. Peacoc » Tue, 28 May 2002 12:50:39

Well, take your pick:  heavy high and close or down and dirty.  Looks
almost split.

Would seem that 1/2 of the responders don't have a clue and prolly
shouldn't be guessing.

If you have a guide, or are going with a guide service (e.g., RMI) they
will show you how to get in all inside. They also have a fairly good
list of junk to carry along with you.  You have a big enough pack for
Rainier.  

I'm assuming you know how to get somebody out of a hole in the snow, and
are fairly adept at using ax and crampons.  If not, sign up for the 2 or
3 day mountaineering school taught just before you drag up to the top.
It's worth it.

Let us know how it went.  

But, man, before you go, you better be fit!!!