Gregory Alpinisto pack and Lowe Ice Invaders

Gregory Alpinisto pack and Lowe Ice Invaders

Post by Max D. Whittake » Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:00:00


I am looking to purchase an alpine climbing pack for general mountaineering and
climbing in the Sierra and Cascades.  Has anyone used a Gregory Alpinisto?
I am also looking to buy some step-in crampons for mainly general mountaineering use
but some technical ice.  Has anyone used the Lowe Ice Invaders?
Thanks
Max
 
 
 

Gregory Alpinisto pack and Lowe Ice Invaders

Post by Quang-Tuan Luon » Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> I am also looking to buy some step-in crampons for mainly general
> mountaineering use
> but some technical ice.  Has anyone used the Lowe Ice Invaders?

I have been using them for 5 years. They work fine for general
mountaineering use, although the Grivel 2F (that I had before)
are slightly more convenient with a rather similar design.
The advantage of the Ice Invaders is the interchangeable front
points, however on technical ice, none of the 3 types of points
is really excellent (however they are well usable !). For your
intended use, they might be a good choice.

Tuan.

-
Quang-Tuan LUONG, Computer scientist at SRI,  +1(415)859-5138
333 Ravenswood av. room EK231, Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493, USA


 
 
 

Gregory Alpinisto pack and Lowe Ice Invaders

Post by David J Kriegm » Sat, 23 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I have a pair of Ice Invaders and a pair of Lowe Lightfangs.  I would
definitely NOT recommend the Invaders.  The concept seemed great, and
since I was able to get a good deal in Chamonix, I bought a pair.  I
liked the idea of a single pair of crampons which could be modified to
be rigid orflexible and had interchangeable front points.  I have both
the vertical and horizontal (T-shaped) front points.  Both sets of
front points have problems.

The vertical ones are too long. On steep ice, I can only set the
vertical points, and get no support from the second set of points.
This place too much torque on the front points, and heavy strain on
your calfs.  Without kicking the ***out of the ice, its difficult to
get secure foot placements.  Consequently, I always use my lightfangs
for waterfall ice.

The horizontal points are good for general mountaineering, and great
on neve.  The extra width is more secure in softer conditions.
However, a friend borrwed them for an ascent of Pinnacle Gully on
Huntington's Ravine on Mt. Washington, and during a nighttime descent
of the Lions head trail (which was rocky and icy).  When we got down,
the points were bent at the top of the weld, and had to be replaced.
Thus, I wouldn't trust these points for mixed climbing; they're just not
strong enough.

The lightfangs are great for waterfall ice, but are too heavy for general
mountaineering, and tend to ball up with snow...

The Charlet Moser crampons seem to be well regarded.

David Kriegman